Of late, I have noticed complaints against the Apple accessibility team as if
to suggest that we are being ignored. It seems to be the belief of some that
the Apple accessibility team fixes accessibility bugs and problems with Voice
Over. I do not believe that this is the case. It is my belie
voiceover still says ‘one row added’ while trying to read mail. it also doesn’t
focus on the message when you do ‘vo/j’ on a message. It keeps you in the
message list so when you go to review text you aren’t actually focused on the
message at all, but still on the inbox list.
Alia
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You re
VO has said 1 row added since Snow Leopard, it is not just a mail thing, it
happens in any table wher additional rows are in fact, added.
If VO J isn’t working for you, try simply pressing enter on a message you wish
to read, and when you’re done, press command w.
You can have an off day, but y
this is untrue. when reading mail in lion vo did not say one row added in
classic view or modern view. It did say it in conversation view, but when you
vo/j on a message it read normally. I read hundreds of mail messages before
upgrading to mavericks, and when you were focused on the text of a m
Hi,
I can’t reproduce this behavior in the finder.
Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info
On Dec 16, 2013, at 5:19 PM, John Sanfilippo wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I've just updated Mavericks via the App Store and observe this:
>
> from the desk
Hi,
I noticed I only get finder busy if I’m interacting with the browser and open
or come across a large folder. If I don’t interact, No busies.
Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info
On Dec 16, 2013, at 7:54 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote:
> ,hi a
Well, it has always done it for me no matter what view I used.
You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding
Sent from my Mac Book Pro
richr...@gmail.com
On Dec 17, 2013, at 7:26 AM, alia robinson wrote:
> this is untrue. when reading mail in lion vo did not s
Hi guys,
I know this is far from a solution, more just my curiosity but, why not just
press enter or command O on the message instead of VO J? For starters, your
pressing less keys. Second, it works 100% of the time. When your done, hit
backspace to delete or, command W to close the window a
Absolutely right. They can talking to engineering. But engeeniering
has the final say. I agree since the great Steve Jobs has passed we're
probably not seeing as much interaction from Accessibility as people saw
before. To sum it up very briefly Accessibility is where you take the
accessibi
When what you are used to doing doesn't work for you, it is time to move on and
try something else. Vo-j is no longer the best way to handle mail so it's time
to adapt in my opinion.
--
Cheryl
Go beyond the Christmas story this year;
meet Immanuel (God with us),
Jesus, the crucified Savior,
Ch
Hi,
I’m using VO+j to jump from the message list table to the content of a mail
message. It works perfectly for me. I see no reason not to use return if that
also works. I have the preview pane turned on and am using mail in its default
view.
I would love to know what is different about what o
Good advice from Ricardo, backspace to delete.
Here in Mountain Lion i need to have full screen in Mail to get Vo + j to work.
Maybe you need to have full screen in Maverick Mail too?
Take care
17. des. 2013 kl. 14:26 skrev alia robinson :
> this is untrue. when reading mail in lion vo did not
Hi,
I think the idea that accessibility is less important to Apple since the death
of Steve Jobs is nothing more than pure speculation and if anyone can prove
otherwise, I would love to see the evidence. I see no value in such comments.
Robert Carter
On Dec 17, 2013, at 7:42 AM, Scott B. wro
sorry my friend, but what you're talking about doesn't make sense.
the accessibility team at apple must have overall responsibility to self take
over as the only Department that serves the accessibility issues.
This Department has to assume only matters related to everything that has to do
with
Hi,
I would also like to point out, the accessibility team is made up of more
people than the people who read our e-mails and answer our calls. There are a
few dedicated Voiceover engineers. I’m guessing not many, but a few that work
on Voiceover specific issues. I think we must understand l
Hi.
As the subject says, I have a problem with the All Mail folder in Gmail on
iOS 7.
After seting it up using the Google settings, I recieve mails a little
while, but after some time, no mails arrives in that folder anymore.
When checking other folders, such as the Inbox, Sent Mail, Trash and
Hi.
I wound up speaking to someone at VM tech support, who told me it can't be done
with the configuration I have. I am running a boot camp partition, and have VM
grabbing that. Ironically, however, as soon as I finished the call and
rebooted my system, it started working just like I want it t
Also, it would seem to me that Tim Cook is at least as committed to
accessibility and inclusion as was his predecessor. He’s the guy in charge.
He’s the 50,000 foot view big picture guy.
As to complaints about Voiceover’s not improving between 10.9.0 and 10.9.1, I’d
say there are some improvem
If you read the Steve Jobs biography, the author says Apple as company was co -
operating between engineers and design. Unlike many other companies they was
like a one big division. Therefore Steve Jobs could say "no screen on iPod
shuffle" and it was done within 30 minutes. Other companys with
In Mavericks, enter works most of the time, but I have had it fail on me. Also,
in ML, enter opened a message and read it immediately. In Mavericks, though,
the message opens, VO reads the subject as expected, and then it reads the
sender's name followed by several clicks. There is then a silenc
Hello,
Thank you for your agreeing to participate in this project. Your generosity of
time and knowledge is most appreciated.
I will be sending out a survey which is nearing its completion very soon. I
will contact you once its sent. If you have any questions, please feel free to
e-mail me.
I
Yes, one row added will be spoken because the inbox is a table and, of
course, new messages will add a new row. I have had this behavior going back
to, at least, Leopard. The only time you might not is if you are not
interacting with the message table.
Take Care
John D. Panarese
Directo
I can't either. Make sure you don't have tab browsing checked in Finder
preferences. I know this has led to some odd behaviors in Finder.
Take Care
John D. Panarese
Director
Mac for the Blind
Tel, (631) 724-4479
Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
APPLE CE
Mario,
That’s quite a lot of needless anger just because you didn’t get all the
attention you wanted right away from Apple. I do not think we blind people
have a right to demand anymore than we have earned. The world owes us nothing
for nothing. I suspect that you do not really understand th
I know what the new click means, but VO clicks five times after the sender's
name where it should click only once. I wouldn't mind so much if the delay
wasn't there. I am not sure about html versus text, but I can tell you that ML
never did this to me - messages always opened immediately, and no
Use the sound effects help in the VoiceOver help menu. There are several
new sounds for different elements. This is why you hear various sounds when
you open a mail message. To me, some are quite helpful.
I also think that whether the mail message is HTML or plain text/rich text
makes a
Hello everyone. Since I n o longer have
Thanks so much.
Paul
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Exactly. You know what happens when you assume. We have no idea what is
truly the roles of the accessibility team and you also have to consider that
there is both Mac OS and iOS to support. how this is allocated within the
accessibility team is, again, pure speculation.
Take Care
John D
If you find it to be annoying I think you can disable it somewhere in system
preferences.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Dec 17, 2013, at 9:46 AM, John Panarese wrote:
>
> Yes, one row added will be spoken because the inbox is a table and, of
> course, new messages will add a new row. I have had
I do wonder if someone critical to do with Apple Accessibility has left or been
moved elsewhere. There are ongoing issues not just with Mavericks, but with iOS
7 as well, and while all software has bugs, some of these issues are quite
significant in terms of productivity.
I still think on mobile
Hi,
how do you add things to the dock in mavericks?
I just tried the old command shift t and it said something about tabs?
Thanks,
Cait
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BTW, for those who think that Tim Cook just doesn’t give two s**ts about
accessibility, this is probably well worn a view. Be cynical and say it’s just
Tim spewing a line or whatever you like, but I kind of don’t get that.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNEafGCf-kw
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The problem for me with pressing Return on a message instead of VO-J, is that
the message subject and folder you're in is spoken first before the message
itself. That adds up to a huge amount of extra verbiage when you read hundreds
of messages a day.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness te
Again, I point you to Tim Cook’s acceptance of the lifetime achievement award
from Auburn University:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNEafGCf-kw
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Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
On Dec 17, 2013, at 9:52 AM, John Panarese wrote:
> Exactly. You know w
Hello everyone. I apologize for the last email I sent. The entire text got
into the subject line. I know longer have my Mac Mini or a Macbook Pro. I
have a Windows 8 laptop. I have an IPhone and am interested in subscribing
to the IPhone list. Can anyone tell me how to subscribe to this list?
T
Exactly, and that's why I usually use vo-a as soon as the message opens. In
Mavericks, this won't work since the message usually takes so long to load. The
clicks don't anny me, and I appreciate them when reading text where something
like an embedded address is detected. It is more that there ar
Hi,
I am using a 2012 retina MacBook Pro. When I am on the message list in mail and
press vo+j, the body of the message is read immediately by VoiceOver. I do not
experience any delay at all.
Robert Carter
On Dec 17, 2013, at 9:36 AM, Alex Hall wrote:
> Exactly, and that's why I usually use
Hi Paul
I presume you are thinking of the VIPhone Google group. This is the link:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/viphone. You should be able to
click the blue 'Join this group' button to subscribe if you have a Google
Account. Or you should be able to send an email to
viphone+subscr...@go
Hi Robert, this is heartening, but since your experience on the list seems to
be the exception rather than the rule, I think Apple Accessibility needs to let
us know what the magic ingredient is to getting VO-J behaving 100% of the time
in Mail as it used to.
For now the work-around I'v employed
This is the same for me. I prefer VO-j over the enter method for the
reasons Alex and others have expressed in this thread. I only wanted to point
out the sounds you were hearing and why.
Take Care
John D. Panarese
Director
Mac for the Blind
Tel, (631) 724-4479
Email, j...@macfortheblind.
Paul,
You said it all.
On 12/17/2013 07:54, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
Mario,
That’s quite a lot of needless anger just because you didn’t get all
the attention you wanted right away from Apple. I do not think we
blind people have a right to demand anymore than we have earned. The
world owes us
call 877-204-3930 for help.
I may do this myself as I have other questions.
Jessica
jldai...@gmail.com
On Dec 17, 2013, at 10:15 AM, Caitlyn and Maggie
wrote:
> Hi,
> how do you add things to the dock in mavericks?
>
> I just tried the old command shift t and it said something about tabs?
>
Hi,
If you get rid of the Preview Pane so that pressing return/enter opens the
message, then the “one row added” does not happen and the focus is directly on
the message that you’re reading.
Later…
Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
On Dec 17, 2013, at 6:04 AM, alia robinson wrote:
> voic
Hi,
The new command in Mavericks is cmd-ctrl-shift-t to add things to the Dock.
Later…
Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
On Dec 17, 2013, at 9:27 AM, Jessica wrote:
> call 877-204-3930 for help.
> I may do this myself as I have other questions.
> Jessica
> jldai...@gmail.com
>
>
>
> On
Hmmm. I don’t experience the delay at all that Alex is speaking of when I use
the return method. It does read the subject though which hasn’t bothered me
much. Sometimes, I just VO-left then VO-right and it starts reading the
message if I don’t feel like listening to the subject.
Later…
Tim
Hi,
The command has changed. It’s now Control command shift T.
hth
Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info
On Dec 17, 2013, at 10:15 AM, Caitlyn and Maggie
wrote:
> Hi,
> how do you add things to the dock in mavericks?
>
> I just tried the
no, you can’t disable it.
Alia
On Dec 17, 2013, at 10:03 AM, Jessica D wrote:
> If you find it to be annoying I think you can disable it somewhere in system
> preferences.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 17, 2013, at 9:46 AM, John Panarese wrote:
>
>> Yes, one row added will be spoken
exactly, and it worked fine before mavericks and now doesn’t. I am kind of put
off by people saying just get used to doing it differently. Obviously something
that was working is no longer working, imo that is a bug, and how many bugs am
I supposed to be expected to “put up with” before the oper
Hi,
On my machine, a mid 2010 macbook pro, there is no real latency between
pressing enter and control O and the message opening.
Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info
On Dec 17, 2013, at 10:36 AM, Alex Hall wrote:
> Exactly, and that's why
this command does not work for me on a fifteen inch macbook pro with retina
display.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Dec 17, 2013, at 11:47 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> The command has changed. It’s now Control command shift T.
>
> hth
>
> Ricardo Walker
> rica...@appletothecore.info
> T
for me enter never interacts with text, yes it reads it, but more often than
not I am on the header field, and the currsor isn’t tracking as it reads. If I
want to open a link, or review text I have to vo down and interact with text.
that is far more work if I forget to do it, and it’s never con
I use item chooser.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Dec 17, 2013, at 12:00 PM, alia robinson wrote:
>
> for me enter never interacts with text, yes it reads it, but more often than
> not I am on the header field, and the currsor isn’t tracking as it reads. If
> I want to open a link, or review text
Hey guys.
About the mail thing, just switch to classic layout under viewing in Mail’s
preferences. That way, you can navigate by and hide/show columns you don’t want
or need.
HTH,
Matthew Campbell
On Dec 17, 2013, at 9:08 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote:
> Also, it would seem to me that Tim Cook is a
VMWare is a layer on top of the MacOS so as much as possible they try to
recycle what OSX already does. So the Windows network is just piped
through whatever your Mac is using and apparently the same thing for
sound. My comment was referring to using the built-in optical connector
to send 5.1 s
HI. with me at least, vo j just reads the text of the message. if you press
enter or command o you hear who it’s from and their email address etc. It just
seems a bit quicker to me. I’m not having any problems with vo j though.
Blessings!
maria and Joe chapman
Email, iMessage & fb: bubbygir
HI. when you press vo j to read a message, turn quick nav on and you should be
able to interact with the text of the message. to select part of a message to
copy and paste press enter on the message to open it. I hope this helps.
Cheers
Maria
sent from mac mini
email, & fb bubbygirl1...@
that is my point. I can’t press vo/j to read mail anymore because of the one
row added announcements that didn’t used to happen, and if you open it with
enter or command o you aren’t in the text field to be able to interact you
either have to vo down and interact with text, or use the item choos
Hi. if you jget a 1 row added just interact with the text and press vo a to
continue reading.
It shouldn’t really interrupt that much. Unless you’re getting lots of mail
coming in.
I hope this helps
Cheers
Maria
sent from mac mini
email, & fb bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
skype bubbygirl1972
Hi,
When I am on the messages list and I press VO+J the text of the mail message
starts reading immediately. If there is a link or something in the message that
I need to activate, I simply down arrow to it. I have been reading mail this
way at least since Lion and certainly in Mountain Lion. M
Hi. it’s the same for me, accept if quick nav is turned off and I’ve pressed
vo j then try to arrow through a message it reads the message list, but this
works fine if quick nav is on.
Warm regards and blessings
Maria, Joe and FurBabies
Email: iMessage:bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
On 18 Dec 20
I am getting a lot of mail, and it does interfere greatly for me. with imap
you can’t tell it to do manual retrieval, so yes, it is interupting me every
couple of minutes. for the amount of mail I get it makes it unuseable. they
will either have to fix it or I guess I will have to live with do
when new mail comes in it will interput your reading and say ‘one row added’
has been doing this since the upgrade.
On Dec 17, 2013, at 12:59 PM, ROBERT CARTER wrote:
> Hi,
>
> When I am on the messages list and I press VO+J the text of the mail message
> starts reading immediately. If there i
Hi all!
I've been sitting here all morning with my email open and reading lots of
messages. I've tried to replicate problems that some seem to be having and I
can't. I usually just press enter to open an email and press backspace or
delete to get rid of a message. I also did vo-j and had no p
HI. I’m not sure that its broken. I think vo is just letting you know that a
new message has come in. this might be important information for some. If I
press enter on a message vo automatically reads it to me. it’s just that I
don’t necessarily want to hear the email address and stuff again
What exactly is the hard way?
Jim
On Dec 17, 2013, at 12:02 PM, alia robinson wrote:
> I am getting a lot of mail, and it does interfere greatly for me. with imap
> you can’t tell it to do manual retrieval, so yes, it is interupting me every
> couple of minutes. for the amount of mail I get
Hey Ricardo,
You use mail exactly the way I use, just enter on a message to open and
backspace to delete it. Can you confirm to me that in Mavericks this still
works fine. I use classic view in mail, and haven't wanted to upgrade to
Mavericks because of all the mail issues but it sounds like th
HI. I’m not really having any problems either. I prefer to use vo j but
either way works just fine.
If I get the 1 row added message I either just arrow down with quick nav on to
read the rest of the message or do a vo a.
Blessings!
maria and Joe chapman
Email, iMessage & fb: bubbygirl1...@gm
if I do a return or a command O am not focusing in the text fields, so I have
to vo down or use item chooser to get to links in mail. If I am doing vo/j
alone the currsor moves as it reads. It makes working with links in mail more
difficult.
Alia
On Dec 17, 2013, at 1:09 PM, Jim Gatteys wrote
Hi just press vo a and the rest of the message should resume reading.
hth
Warm regards and blessings
Maria, Joe and FurBabies
Email: iMessage:bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
On 18 Dec 2013, at 5:04 am, alia robinson wrote:
> when new mail comes in it will interput your reading and say ‘one row add
If I open a message with the return key it puts me in the body of the mail
message. Maybe I'm missing something but I can't see the need for vo-j. seems
like a lot of extra keystrokes. I have to turn on quick nag if I do vo-j. Can
somebody explain?
On Dec 17, 2013, at 12:11 PM, alia robinso
I realize that, but when it happens five or six times a message it becomes
tedious. I am simply saying for me, who gets long messages, and lots of them it
is making mail unmanageable, that is all. I appreciate help and suggestions,
truly I do, but when the work arounds are becoming this annoying
It puts me in headers, almost everytime. I always have to vo down to get to
text.
On Dec 17, 2013, at 1:15 PM, Jim Gatteys wrote:
> If I open a message with the return key it puts me in the body of the mail
> message. Maybe I'm missing something but I can't see the need for vo-j.
> seems lik
I have to vo-left or right to get into the headers. mine always leaves me at
the first of a mail message when I press return to open.
On Dec 17, 2013, at 12:16 PM, alia robinson wrote:
> It puts me in headers, almost everytime. I always have to vo down to get to
> text.
> On Dec 17, 2013, at
might I suggest, that instead of just an email campaign to correct some of the
issues with voiceover in the later OS versions, that we should follow up with a
snail mail campaign directed at the company president. I know this seems
archaic, but the presence of physical mail can sometimes carry a
I used to be able to read messages fine. Only if I was in the message list did
it say ‘one row added’ once I interacted with text it didn’t read that at all.
It is since the upgrade to mavericks, and as I said some of my emails are pages
long, so I am doing this ten times an email.
Alia
On Dec
HI.
If I press return or command o I get from and maybe their email address
etc. When I press backspace to delete I get inbox iPhone message 1 of xxx etc.
If I press vo j I hear the text of the message straight up and then when I
press back space it just tells me the next message usually
Are you saying you have to interact with a message to read it? I do not have
to do this, only if I want a link or event or some specific info but just
reading I just press enter.
On Dec 17, 2013, at 12:18 PM, alia robinson wrote:
> I used to be able to read messages fine. Only if I was in the
HI. that would be a good idea if it’s an option to turn it off. I think it
should be optional for sure though.
Maria and Joe Chapman
bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
On 18 Dec 2013, at 5:15 am, alia robinson wrote:
> I realize that, but when it happens five or six times a message it becomes
> ted
Mine isn’t consistent, at times it does, at times it doesn’t. I have no idea
why.
On Dec 17, 2013, at 1:17 PM, Jim Gatteys wrote:
> I have to vo-left or right to get into the headers. mine always leaves me at
> the first of a mail message when I press return to open.
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I am saying vo/j no longer works to read mail with imaps enabled. I prefer to
read mail with vo/j since the currsor tracks correctly, and I can click on
links without having to vo down or use the item chooser since enter and command
o sometimes put me in the header field.
On Dec 17, 2013, at 1:
It seems like it would be easy to do. If I write a script I’ll probably blow up
my processor! :)
On Dec 17, 2013, at 1:19 PM, Maria and Joe Chapman
wrote:
> HI. that would be a good idea if it’s an option to turn it off. I think it
> should be optional for sure though.
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Hi,
The cmd-ctrl-shift-t is not a machine specific command. Whether you have a
MacMini or the most powerful MacPro, this key combination should work as it is
an OS command. If it is not working, there’s likely either a physical keyboard
issue, a mis-touch of the key combination or you’re tryi
Hi.
sorry I don’t know how to write a script either.
regards
Maria and crew from australia
email:
bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
check out
www.95-the-mix.com
where we play lots of great music
On 18 Dec 2013, at 5:23 am, alia robinson wrote:
> It seems like it would be easy to do. If I writ
When I am in the applications window, I arrow down to radium and then press
command-control-shift-t and voiceover says add to dock.
On Dec 17, 2013, at 12:29 PM, Jessica wrote:
> I am trying to add “radium as some people have successfully done.”
> Why can’t I?
> Jessica
> jldai...@gmail.com
>
>
Hi.
I am not sure if the USB sound card I have supports an optical in. What would
the jack look like? And which mini port would I use? That certainly would
make it more responsive, I would imagine. Thanks.
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Ehh. It won’t get very far if you send to 1 Infinite Way in Cerritos. It might
be better to go to 1 Infinit Loop in Cupertino though.
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Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
On Dec 17, 2013, at 1:17 PM, eric oyen wrote:
> might I suggest, that instead of jus
Hi, alll,
I wasn't going to post to this thread, but I've been thinking about this
issue of accessibility. When I decided to switch to a Mac, I knew I had to
consider the fact that buying a product off the shelf was going to mean
risking some accessibility features. Maybe mainstream developers
Macs from the last decade or so have had their headphone jack also be an
optical audio out as well. I'm not sure when they started putting them
on all the models but I know the MacPro tower machines from 2003 had
optical outs. Anyway, you'll need a mini-TOSLink cable to fit the
headphone jack c
Hi Alex,
I’m wondering what your Header detail is set to. In Mail Prefs, in the Viewing
tab, if you have your Header Detail set to all, then it may take more time
blipping through those details. I’ve set mine to Custom and only have things
like From, To, CC, Attachments and Date. I believe t
oh. thanks for the correction. the other address was to google corporate HQ.
-eric
On Dec 17, 2013, at 11:34 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote:
> Ehh. It won’t get very far if you send to 1 Infinite Way in Cerritos. It
> might be better to go to 1 Infinit Loop in Cupertino though.
> --
> Buddy Brannan,
Hmm vo j seems to work every time for me. I wonder why it’s different on some
systems.
Maria and Joe Chapman
bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
On 18 Dec 2013, at 2:56 am, Jonathan Mosen wrote:
> Hi Robert, this is heartening, but since your experience on the list seems to
> be the exception rather th
Hi Teresa,
I agree with you! :)
Most of peoples problems are located in the "chair" ;)
I make a living every day on a mac pro running pro tools and "never stop"
studying PT & the mac Os.
To sum it up "don't sing the blues if you haven't paid the dues! :)
Make sure its a bug before you report it t
Hi,
You may want to check manually fetch mail, that is how I have it set because
messages kept coming in and interrupting .
Rhonda
On Dec 17, 2013, at 1:04 PM, alia robinson wrote:
> when new mail comes in it will interput your reading and say ‘one row added’
> has been doing this since the u
Hi,
I think we sometimes romanticize the idea that things were fabulous when we
used a screen reader that was developed by a company that specializes in screen
reading. Don’t get me wrong, I very much appreciate what the screen reader
companies have done for accessibility. At the same time, I d
Hi Mavericks Users,
I experience a MacBook Air 11 from 2012 as very sluggish under Mavericks using
Apples german Voices. Especially if I change the active program using CMD +
Tab. This issue does not accur if I use the english voice Alex. So I got just
very little hope that someone can confirm t
Hi there,
I’m using vo j just fine in standard view. Sometimes, if it doesn’t work
suddenly, restarting mail always solves the problem for me. I think it’s just a
focus issue which this update hasn’t sorted out, but is probably wider than
mail.
On 18/12/2013, at 2:26 am, alia robinson wrote:
Please tell meow you are reading mail in standard view? I just press enter on
each message once they have been deleted. Is there another better way? I
don’t do command J.
Thanks.
Kawal.
On 17 Dec 2013, at 21:09, Lisette Wesseling wrote:
> Like Robert, I am noticing no issues with mail in M
Like Robert, I am noticing no issues with mail in Mavericks. I am in standard
view with preview pane turned on.
I am interacting with the messages table and it all works really fine. I know
some people prefer classic view and/or their preview pain turned off. Maybe
this is the difference.
I just
Hi Eric
I for one refuse to do such a thing because I think, for one thing, it doesn't
reach the people that need to know about anything that is going wrong. Lately,
I have called Accessibility, and the advisor has been more than willing to
write up and report the things we found that were prob
I’m about to really annoy the moderators but, thanks Teresa for such a
well-reasoned post. One thing to keep in mind is, Freedom Scientific doesn’t
design computers, nor do they design operating systems. They design a screen
reader that supports an operating system whose developers aren’t all th
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