Exactly. You know what happens when you assume. We have no idea what is truly the roles of the accessibility team and you also have to consider that there is both Mac OS and iOS to support. how this is allocated within the accessibility team is, again, pure speculation.
Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX Mountain Lion and LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Dec 17, 2013, at 8:53 AM, ROBERT CARTER <nc5rn...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > I think the idea that accessibility is less important to Apple since the > death of Steve Jobs is nothing more than pure speculation and if anyone can > prove otherwise, I would love to see the evidence. I see no value in such > comments. > > Robert Carter > > > On Dec 17, 2013, at 7:42 AM, Scott B. <sb356...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Absolutely right. They can talking to engineering. But engeeniering has >> the final say. I agree since the great Steve Jobs has passed we're probably >> not seeing as much interaction from Accessibility as people saw before. To >> sum it up very briefly Accessibility is where you take the accessibility >> suggestions or problems. They either act upon them y supporting you the >> person who needs help or passing it on to the engineering team by >> escalation. Please also keep in mind these are tier 2 support personnel so >> they can't know everything either so be easy on these people. >> >> >> On 12/17/2013 03:37, Ray Foret Jr wrote: >>> Of late, I have noticed complaints against the Apple accessibility team as >>> if to suggest that we are being ignored. It seems to be the belief of some >>> that the Apple accessibility team fixes accessibility bugs and problems >>> with Voice Over. I do not believe that this is the case. It is my belief >>> that the Apple accessibility team has, in fact, a very limited role at >>> Apple. Frankly, with the passing of the late great Steve Jobs, that role >>> has perhaps demenished greatly. I believe that the Apple accessibility team >>> never has had actual decision making capacity with respect to actual >>> implementation of fixes for Voice Over. They didn’t even have this power >>> under Steve Jobs. Unless I am very much mistaken, all the accessibility >>> team has any power to do is to forward our findings over to the development >>> teams but nothing more. They cannot even tell us whether or not our >>> reports will be acted upon. Now, this last is most likely a part of >>> Apple’s non disclosure policy: however, I suspect that even if this was >>> not so, Apple’s accessibility team would not be informed in any case. In >>> short, it seems that the only function that this accessibility team has and >>> will ever have at Apple is not much more than a kind of clearing house of >>> feedback from us blind users. I cannot help wonder how many Apple app >>> developmental teams look at submissions from the accessibility team and say >>> to themselves, “Oh, no, not again.”. I suspect that this explains why it >>> is that our reports seem to go unheeded. >>> >>> >>> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind >>> built-in! >>> >>> Sincerely, >>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! >>> >> >> -- >> Scott Berry >> Email: sb356...@gmail.com >> >> >> >> --- >> This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus >> protection is active. >> http://www.avast.com >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
