I know what the new click means, but VO clicks five times after the sender's name where it should click only once. I wouldn't mind so much if the delay wasn't there. I am not sure about html versus text, but I can tell you that ML never did this to me - messages always opened immediately, and now they almost never do. On Dec 17, 2013, at 9:50 AM, John Panarese <jpanar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Use the sound effects help in the VoiceOver help menu. There are several > new sounds for different elements. This is why you hear various sounds when > you open a mail message. To me, some are quite helpful. > I also think that whether the mail message is HTML or plain text/rich text > makes a difference in those delays you indicate. > > > > Take Care > > John D. Panarese > Director > Mac for the Blind > Tel, (631) 724-4479 > Email, j...@macfortheblind.com > Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com > > APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX Mountain Lion and LION > > AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE > > MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT > > > > > On Dec 17, 2013, at 9:42 AM, Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> In Mavericks, enter works most of the time, but I have had it fail on me. >> Also, in ML, enter opened a message and read it immediately. In Mavericks, >> though, the message opens, VO reads the subject as expected, and then it >> reads the sender's name followed by several clicks. There is then a silence >> for anywhere from one to fifteen seconds before the text itself is read. >> VO-a, which I usually use to skip the subject/sender, will not work until >> the text loads. As I said, this can be up to ten or fifteen seconds. So >> enter does work better than vo-j, but messages sometimes take so long to >> load that it becomes incredibly frustrating. Additionally, the inability to >> have VO say a conversation's message count, unread status, and so on >> combines with the afore mentioned problems to make Mail a horribly >> inefficient app for me under Mavericks. Oh, and yes, this is under 10.9.1. >> On Dec 17, 2013, at 8:50 AM, Terje Strømberg <terjestrmb...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Good advice from Ricardo, backspace to delete. >>> >>> Here in Mountain Lion i need to have full screen in Mail to get Vo + j to >>> work. Maybe you need to have full screen in Maverick Mail too? >>> >>> Take care >>> >>> 17. des. 2013 kl. 14:26 skrev alia robinson <ali...@gmail.com>: >>> >>>> this is untrue. when reading mail in lion vo did not say one row added in >>>> classic view or modern view. It did say it in conversation view, but when >>>> you vo/j on a message it read normally. I read hundreds of mail messages >>>> before upgrading to mavericks, and when you were focused on the text of a >>>> message with vo/j you were not interupted. >>>> >>>> Alia >>>> On Dec 17, 2013, at 8:21 AM, Richard Ring <richr...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> VO has said 1 row added since Snow Leopard, it is not just a mail thing, >>>>> it happens in any table wher additional rows are in fact, added. >>>>> If VO J isn’t working for you, try simply pressing enter on a message you >>>>> wish to read, and when you’re done, press command w. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> >> Have a great day, >> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) >> mehg...@gmail.com >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. 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