oh. thanks for the correction. the other address was to google corporate HQ.
-eric On Dec 17, 2013, at 11:34 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote: > Ehh. It won’t get very far if you send to 1 Infinite Way in Cerritos. It > might be better to go to 1 Infinit Loop in Cupertino though. > -- > Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA > Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY > > > > On Dec 17, 2013, at 1:17 PM, eric oyen <eric.o...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> might I suggest, that instead of just an email campaign to correct some of >> the issues with voiceover in the later OS versions, that we should follow up >> with a snail mail campaign directed at the company president. I know this >> seems archaic, but the presence of physical mail can sometimes carry a lot >> more weight, especially if its a lot of mail from a large group. If their >> mail room at the facilities (located at 1 infinite way, cerritos california) >> has to start putting more and more resources into filtering the snail mail, >> it will quickly get the attention of higher ups in the company. This is one >> of many methods to attack their wallet in an attempt to get what we want >> done. >> >> -eric >> >> On Dec 17, 2013, at 3:37 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: >> >>> Of late, I have noticed complaints against the Apple accessibility team as >>> if to suggest that we are being ignored. It seems to be the belief of some >>> that the Apple accessibility team fixes accessibility bugs and problems >>> with Voice Over. I do not believe that this is the case. It is my belief >>> that the Apple accessibility team has, in fact, a very limited role at >>> Apple. Frankly, with the passing of the late great Steve Jobs, that role >>> has perhaps demenished greatly. I believe that the Apple accessibility team >>> never has had actual decision making capacity with respect to actual >>> implementation of fixes for Voice Over. They didn’t even have this power >>> under Steve Jobs. Unless I am very much mistaken, all the accessibility >>> team has any power to do is to forward our findings over to the development >>> teams but nothing more. They cannot even tell us whether or not our >>> reports will be acted upon. Now, this last is most likely a part of >>> Apple’s non disclosure policy: however, I suspect that even if this was >>> not so, Apple’s accessibility team would not be informed in any case. In >>> short, it seems that the only function that this accessibility team has and >>> will ever have at Apple is not much more than a kind of clearing house of >>> feedback from us blind users. I cannot help wonder how many Apple app >>> developmental teams look at submissions from the accessibility team and say >>> to themselves, “Oh, no, not again.”. I suspect that this explains why it >>> is that our reports seem to go unheeded. >>> >>> >>> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind >>> built-in! >>> >>> Sincerely, >>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.