Hmm vo j seems to work every time for me. I wonder why it’s different on some systems. Maria and Joe Chapman bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
On 18 Dec 2013, at 2:56 am, Jonathan Mosen <jmo...@mosen.org> wrote: > Hi Robert, this is heartening, but since your experience on the list seems to > be the exception rather than the rule, I think Apple Accessibility needs to > let us know what the magic ingredient is to getting VO-J behaving 100% of the > time in Mail as it used to. > For now the work-around I'v employed is to press it 3 times quickly. Pressing > it once works every so often. > Jonathan Mosen > Mosen Consulting > Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training > http://Mosen.org > > On 18/12/2013, at 4:44 am, ROBERT CARTER <nc5rn...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I am using a 2012 retina MacBook Pro. When I am on the message list in mail >> and press vo+j, the body of the message is read immediately by VoiceOver. I >> do not experience any delay at all. >> >> Robert Carter >> >> >> On Dec 17, 2013, at 9:36 AM, Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Exactly, and that's why I usually use vo-a as soon as the message opens. In >>> Mavericks, this won't work since the message usually takes so long to load. >>> The clicks don't anny me, and I appreciate them when reading text where >>> something like an embedded address is detected. It is more that there are a >>> bunch of extra clicks before the message is even read, and that reading >>> said message takes so long. >>> On Dec 17, 2013, at 10:28 AM, Jonathan Mosen <jmo...@mosen.org> wrote: >>> >>>> The problem for me with pressing Return on a message instead of VO-J, is >>>> that the message subject and folder you're in is spoken first before the >>>> message itself. That adds up to a huge amount of extra verbiage when you >>>> read hundreds of messages a day. >>>> Jonathan Mosen >>>> Mosen Consulting >>>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training >>>> http://Mosen.org >>>> >>>> On 18/12/2013, at 2:26 am, alia robinson <ali...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> this is untrue. when reading mail in lion vo did not say one row added in >>>>> classic view or modern view. It did say it in conversation view, but when >>>>> you vo/j on a message it read normally. I read hundreds of mail messages >>>>> before upgrading to mavericks, and when you were focused on the text of a >>>>> message with vo/j you were not interupted. >>>>> >>>>> Alia >>>>> On Dec 17, 2013, at 8:21 AM, Richard Ring <richr...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> VO has said 1 row added since Snow Leopard, it is not just a mail thing, >>>>>> it happens in any table wher additional rows are in fact, added. >>>>>> If VO J isn’t working for you, try simply pressing enter on a message >>>>>> you wish to read, and when you’re done, press command w. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> >>> >>> Have a great day, >>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) >>> mehg...@gmail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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