Use the sound effects help in the VoiceOver help menu.  There are several 
new sounds for different elements.  This is why you hear various sounds when 
you open a mail message.  To me, some are quite helpful.
   I also think that whether the mail message is HTML or plain text/rich text 
makes a difference in those delays you indicate.



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On Dec 17, 2013, at 9:42 AM, Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> wrote:

> In Mavericks, enter works most of the time, but I have had it fail on me. 
> Also, in ML, enter opened a message and read it immediately. In Mavericks, 
> though, the message opens, VO reads the subject as expected, and then it 
> reads the sender's name followed by several clicks. There is then a silence 
> for anywhere from one to fifteen seconds before the text itself is read. 
> VO-a, which I usually use to skip the subject/sender, will not work until the 
> text loads. As I said, this can be up to ten or fifteen seconds. So enter 
> does work better than vo-j, but messages sometimes take so long to load that 
> it becomes incredibly frustrating. Additionally, the inability to have VO say 
> a conversation's message count, unread status, and so on combines with the 
> afore mentioned problems to make Mail a horribly inefficient app for me under 
> Mavericks. Oh, and yes, this is under 10.9.1.
> On Dec 17, 2013, at 8:50 AM, Terje Strømberg <terjestrmb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Good advice from Ricardo, backspace to delete.
>> 
>> Here in Mountain Lion i need to have full screen in Mail to get Vo + j to 
>> work. Maybe you need to have full screen in Maverick Mail too?
>> 
>> Take care
>> 
>> 17. des. 2013 kl. 14:26 skrev alia robinson <ali...@gmail.com>:
>> 
>>> this is untrue. when reading mail in lion vo did not say one row added in 
>>> classic view or modern view. It did say it in conversation view, but when 
>>> you vo/j on a message it read normally. I read hundreds of mail messages 
>>> before upgrading to mavericks, and when you were focused on the text of a 
>>> message with vo/j you were not interupted. 
>>> 
>>> Alia
>>> On Dec 17, 2013, at 8:21 AM, Richard Ring <richr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> VO has said 1 row added since Snow Leopard, it is not just a mail thing, 
>>>> it happens in any table wher additional rows are in fact, added.
>>>> If VO J isn’t working for you, try simply pressing enter on a message you 
>>>> wish to read, and when you’re done, press command w.
>>> 
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