Hmmm. I don’t experience the delay at all that Alex is speaking of when I use the return method. It does read the subject though which hasn’t bothered me much. Sometimes, I just VO-left then VO-right and it starts reading the message if I don’t feel like listening to the subject.
Later… Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Dec 17, 2013, at 8:36 AM, Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> wrote: > Exactly, and that's why I usually use vo-a as soon as the message opens. In > Mavericks, this won't work since the message usually takes so long to load. > The clicks don't anny me, and I appreciate them when reading text where > something like an embedded address is detected. It is more that there are a > bunch of extra clicks before the message is even read, and that reading said > message takes so long. > On Dec 17, 2013, at 10:28 AM, Jonathan Mosen <jmo...@mosen.org> wrote: > >> The problem for me with pressing Return on a message instead of VO-J, is >> that the message subject and folder you're in is spoken first before the >> message itself. That adds up to a huge amount of extra verbiage when you >> read hundreds of messages a day. >> Jonathan Mosen >> Mosen Consulting >> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training >> http://Mosen.org >> >> On 18/12/2013, at 2:26 am, alia robinson <ali...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> this is untrue. when reading mail in lion vo did not say one row added in >>> classic view or modern view. It did say it in conversation view, but when >>> you vo/j on a message it read normally. I read hundreds of mail messages >>> before upgrading to mavericks, and when you were focused on the text of a >>> message with vo/j you were not interupted. >>> >>> Alia >>> On Dec 17, 2013, at 8:21 AM, Richard Ring <richr...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> VO has said 1 row added since Snow Leopard, it is not just a mail thing, >>>> it happens in any table wher additional rows are in fact, added. >>>> If VO J isn’t working for you, try simply pressing enter on a message you >>>> wish to read, and when you’re done, press command w. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > > Have a great day, > Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) > mehg...@gmail.com > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.