This is the same for me. I prefer VO-j over the enter method for the reasons Alex and others have expressed in this thread. I only wanted to point out the sounds you were hearing and why.
Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX Mountain Lion and LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Dec 17, 2013, at 10:44 AM, ROBERT CARTER <nc5rn...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > I am using a 2012 retina MacBook Pro. When I am on the message list in mail > and press vo+j, the body of the message is read immediately by VoiceOver. I > do not experience any delay at all. > > Robert Carter > > > On Dec 17, 2013, at 9:36 AM, Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Exactly, and that's why I usually use vo-a as soon as the message opens. In >> Mavericks, this won't work since the message usually takes so long to load. >> The clicks don't anny me, and I appreciate them when reading text where >> something like an embedded address is detected. It is more that there are a >> bunch of extra clicks before the message is even read, and that reading said >> message takes so long. >> On Dec 17, 2013, at 10:28 AM, Jonathan Mosen <jmo...@mosen.org> wrote: >> >>> The problem for me with pressing Return on a message instead of VO-J, is >>> that the message subject and folder you're in is spoken first before the >>> message itself. That adds up to a huge amount of extra verbiage when you >>> read hundreds of messages a day. >>> Jonathan Mosen >>> Mosen Consulting >>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training >>> http://Mosen.org >>> >>> On 18/12/2013, at 2:26 am, alia robinson <ali...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> this is untrue. when reading mail in lion vo did not say one row added in >>>> classic view or modern view. It did say it in conversation view, but when >>>> you vo/j on a message it read normally. I read hundreds of mail messages >>>> before upgrading to mavericks, and when you were focused on the text of a >>>> message with vo/j you were not interupted. >>>> >>>> Alia >>>> On Dec 17, 2013, at 8:21 AM, Richard Ring <richr...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> VO has said 1 row added since Snow Leopard, it is not just a mail thing, >>>>> it happens in any table wher additional rows are in fact, added. >>>>> If VO J isn’t working for you, try simply pressing enter on a message you >>>>> wish to read, and when you’re done, press command w. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> >> Have a great day, >> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) >> mehg...@gmail.com >> >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
