Hi Folks,
I've been helpping a workmate today setup Remote desktop connection between
a mac, running SL and a pc running xp pro.
We were playing with a program called RDC which is made by Microsoft by the
looks of it and runs on the mac platform.and works just like windows RDP
(remote desktop )
HEllo, The microsoft rdc client is listed on the accessibility website. I just
downloaded the newest version and will try it with a sighted person hopefully
soon. I am not sure if he would have to install a jaws demo for example for it
to work.
Greetings, Anouk,
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If you e-mail him, he will respond. I've been bugging him on/off about adding
support for html. THis is the only thing that limits me from effectively using
Unison.
On Nov 30, 2009, at 1:47 AM, anouk radix wrote:
> Hello, I tried unison yesterday with a sighted friend (via teamviewer) and we
>
The Mac OS cannot be easily run on a PC, even under a VM from my understanding.
It is also in violation of the ULA and illegal to do so. If he wants to try it
out, he should buy you dinner and earn a little time trying it out on your
machine. :) Even if he did manage to get it running on a PC, h
Hello, yeah i did email him already. If he would just make that group list
accessible, unison accessibility as a whole would really improve a great deal.
Greetings, Anouk,
On Nov 30, 2009, at 11:37 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
> If you e-mail him, he will respond. I've been bugging him on/off about ad
Hi Scott, yes I know its illegal but thats his problem not mine. I also heard
about the hackintosh project which would allow you to run os x natively on a pc
(there is even a podcast about it on blindcooltech) but it does not seemto be
ideal and thats why I wondered if it cant be done vertually
Agreed, I wish he would. In fact he said he would do this and that, but he had
other issues for the next version. Yeah, well I think in the end I probably
wasted my money because I am pretty certain a new version isn't coming out any
time soon and I seriously doubt he will do anything to address
The problem, in the US at least, isn't the actual accessibility of any of the
solutions but, rather, how entrenched the products and sales people have become
in the culture of said agencies. FS has held a big lead for a long time and
virtually every AT trainer in the US knows at least one FS s
I just tried using nano for a quick project on the mac, (pico actually) over a
ssh connection, and when I tried to read previous lines the whole thing locked
up.
On Nov 29, 2009, at 10:46 PM, Mitchell Smith wrote:
> MacVim is quite accessible with VoiceOver.
>
> You can also tweak it a little t
Chris, very good points and I have to agree with your observations.
On Nov 30, 2009, at 7:31 AM, Chris Hofstader wrote:
> The problem, in the US at least, isn't the actual accessibility of any of
> the solutions but, rather, how entrenched the products and sales people have
> become in the cult
Hello, he told me recently too that there would be a new version soon. Its a
real pity since unison is the only usenet client that works on sl I think.
Hogwasher is even costlier and I hear it has not been updated in ages. I must
say htough, I bought transmit, also from panic and I asked them a
hi i note that when typing in the address bar of safari, you
can see
a table in that dialogue of the auto complete entries
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I've been playing with the iphone in the apple store and the learning curve
seems pretty signifigant but manageable.
However, with a moderately noisy environment I had real difficulty hearing the
screen reader.
With some experimentation I learned that it has to be speaking in order to
change t
Agreed a noisy environment makes listening difficult, but to be honest the
audio quality is much better than the Motorola Q I was using. An earpiece is
really the best solution. Keep in mind the volume of the internal speaker will
be different from the volume of the earpiece you plug in to the p
I also wish they would fix the volume issue when in noisy places, but for now I
deal with it. The vibrate is good enough that if I'm in a noisy place I still
feel my phone and I can then check the call once I stick the head phone in my
ear.
On 2009-11-30, at 8:09 AM, John W. Carty wrote:
> I'v
gI think you've hit it right on the head--the blind are removed from
the capitalist marketplace "for their own good." If we abolish the
agencies, a lot of blind people would be left like fish flopping on
the floor of a boat--having never been taught the principles nor given
the power to co
Just to offer a different perspective, I don't like messing with
headphones, so I don't. Though it is true that sometimes I end up
holding the phone pretty close to my ear, if the environment is really
noisy, most of the time I have gotten used to the volume, and usually
find I can work th
Hi,
I can easily hear it, but that was after I asked them to take me to an office
with the iPhone.
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On Nov 30, 2009, at 5:09 PM, John W. Carty wrote:
> I've been
Hi,
How would they fix that? Short of telling everyone to shut up.
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On Nov 30, 2009, at 6:34 PM, May McDonald wrote:
> I also wish they would fix the volume issue
Easy, by making so that you can make the volume louder when in noisy places and
that it doesn't get all distorted.
On 2009-11-30, at 9:47 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:
> Hi,
>
> How would they fix that? Short of telling everyone to shut up.
>
> Regards,
> Nic
> Skype: Kvalme
> MSN Messenger: nico
Hi,
You got a distorted voice? I didn't even get that. But then, I used an
earpiece. Not sure if that makes a difference.
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On Nov 30, 2009, at 6:58 PM, May McDona
Yes, without headphones if you put it at the max it's very distorted.
On 2009-11-30, at 10:20 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:
> Hi,
>
> You got a distorted voice? I didn't even get that. But then, I used an
> earpiece. Not sure if that makes a difference.
>
> Regards,
> Nic
> Skype: Kvalme
> MSN Me
I often share the frustration but I don't think the blame is entirely with the
agencies. People blind from childhood are far more likely to be independent
than are those of us who, like me, went blind later in life from RP or some
other degenerative disorder or accident. The kids are "in the s
You, and I to a lesser extent, and others are the exception. I was
born blind, didn't go to any institutions for the blind, was raised as
an only child, mostly in rural Vermont with minimal help from state
agencies. Graduated from Dartmouth when I was 20, again with minimal
if any help fr
My only valuable experience with an agency was learning the little bit of
braille that I know at a local Lighthouse. I've had lots of friends work at
such places and I believe they do as good as they can under constant budgetary
pressures and I think these people do so with hope rather than my
Hi,I'm considering buying an iPhone some time after the first of the
year. My question is this: Even though I have set the iPhone up to
work on my Mac Mini, for example, but my wife wants to use it for
herself, when she goes on business trips, can she use her PC settings
in Windows, or do
Hello chris,
I haven't followed this thread, but I will put in my two cents where I've had
experience.
The main thing is the comment about the advantages of blind people from birth;
while it may be easier to deal with, I've seen many people go blind at early
ages (before teens) and in their teen
Hi Mark:
I certainly don't hold a grudge as everybody is entitled to their opinion.
However, if it weren't for the Commission for the blind here in Oregon, there
is no way that I could perform the job I was hired for. I had to have a
programmer write JAWS scripts so that I could get to the bu
Mark,
Reading your message, I have a lot of respect for you, and those like
you. The blind community is littered with people who would've given up, or who
make these agencies their life and conform to them. I recently attended the
youthslam convention NFB hosted this last summer, in the
extra-Name doesn't sound familiar. When I got accepted to Dartmouth
and started in 1986. I rarely went back because my parents and I
didn't get along so well. I also found that training at the Carroll
Center was far too slow for me, but the computer guy, Brian
Charleston, recognized that
No, you cannot have one iPhone and jump back and forth from mac mini to PC
and then back to the mac. Every time you connect the iPhone to a machine the
phone recognizes what is running and one must restore the iPhone and start
over. So, if you connect to your mac mini load songs from your itunes
li
Hi, Carlene.
You are a perfect example of my point. Generally put, they did not
teach you to fish, they gave you some fish. Hell, I'm writing this on
the Macbook DOR of California bought me; listening with the hearing
aids they bought me... Maybe I'm a hypocrite, but I'm forced to use
t
The biggest way in which the sighted have power over the blind is just
that; they teach the blind to pity themselves, to be dependent on the
sighted and not upon themselves. Thank you for the kind words, by the
way; I only hope I can earn them. :) I fall far short of my ideals in
this res
You've got a point. I wish I could do all of this on my own. OCB has been
willing to step in after my employment to help me, but I know that many
organizations don't. They do sign over expensive equipment which you are then
responsible for getting repaired regardless of your income. I don't
That's not true. It will ask if you want to merge your settings. The phone
can be used with both systems. I did that for a while before I got rid of my
pc.
On 2009-11-30, at 11:52 AM, Charlie Doremus wrote:
> No, you cannot have one iPhone and jump back and forth from mac mini to PC
> and th
Thanks for answering my question. And I apologize for the typo when
sending the aforementioned, above message earlier. I meant to send a
copy to Macvisionaries. Sorry about the goof. Richie Gardenhire,
Anchorage, Alaska.
On Nov 30, 2009, at 11:08 AM, May McDonald wrote:
That's not true
And for this reason, I feel that many state agencies, (Alaska's, being
one of them)will be cutting back services, in favor of other things
and as Mark so eloquently pointed out, the elderly, the poor, and the
disabled, will be hurt first. I know thisis a different subject line
from what wa
I am flattered that I made you think; that's the highest of
compliments, thank you. It seems to me that the system is bass-
ackwards. Instead of saying "what do you need?" and gently showing
you how you can assist yourself, in other words assisting you to not
need assistance, they say "thi
Hi all,
I was just working on a document in Text Edit. I went into the Font
menu to try and change the font, and when I did, I started getting the
message "Text Edit Busy", but the message would not go away, and I
couldn't close the program. Has anyone else seen this? Is there
anyway to
I don't have an answer but in evaluating a mac for my future leap I've
encountered applications busy msg.
Is this related to limited ram?
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Well there ya go Mark, you said it and I couldn't agree more. I didn't have the
agencies etc. since I don't think my folks really knew about them. I grew up in
a sighted world so to speak and learned to get along and work with what I had.
THe county I lived in provided the tools to get through s
Unfortunately you have to be realistic though. I agree with you in a sense,
but going into a store and buying JAWS or Window Eyes off of the shelf? That
would be nice? that's one reason I like the Mac and accessories. The people
in the Mac and Apple stores will likely not be trained for exte
I'm looking to make the leap to a mac and currently I heavily use spreadsheets
so can anyone who uses lots of spreadsheets that utilizes multi sheet
references, formulas, functions, if logic, etc let me know how numbers performs
with vo?
Thanx,
John Carty
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I think it depends on the app. I get this in Safari when pages are
loading, but it always goes away. This is the first time I've seen
the Mac get "stuck" in busy mode.
On Nov 30, 2009, at 3:46 PM, John W. Carty wrote:
> I don't have an answer but in evaluating a mac for my future leap
> I'
And that is why I'm very supportive of what APple has done and will continue to
do and I hope they do just that.
On Nov 30, 2009, at 3:23 PM, Richie Gardenhire wrote:
> And for this reason, I feel that many state agencies, (Alaska's, being
> one of them)will be cutting back services, in favor o
I'm not sure what can be done really. You are dealing with a very small, but
clear speaker and a limited amount of horsepower to drive it. Honestly it's one
of the better speakers I've heard, but once you crank the volume up, it will
start to distort.
On Nov 30, 2009, at 12:34 PM, May McDonald w
Hi Donna:
Try pressing Command Option Escape all at once. A dialog should pop up asking
you which program you want to quit.. Simply arrow to Text Edit which will
probably say not responding and hit enter. The program has crashed.
On Nov 30, 2009, at 12:48 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
> Hi all,
>
As long as the blind define themselves as "disabled," they will have
this problem. It's paradoxical, because as I said, I don't really
like to be around lots of blind people all together in a group, and
yet we, the blind people, need some sort of cohesive teaching /
enabling power that wil
It's not a total failure, until it is, and then it'll be a spectacular
failure. It's a quick-fix solution for a quick-fix world, where your
food comes from a tube and your cure from a pill, where you travel 80
miles an hour to go nowhere. While this might sound like I"m
disparaging Wester
My first visit to an Apple store, the guy said "what over? Voice
what? Oh, you mean that speech synthesizer program? we don't have
that." When I showed him VoiceOver, instead of being helpful, he
became defensive; "Well how'm I supposed to know about that? no one's
ever used it before."
Mark, very interesting. I once was on a flight and this nice young lady started
asking me about my dog. The conversation quickly turned to questions about
being blind, about how I work with computers and the like and eventually to her
showing me an Iphone. THis was before the iPhone was accessib
Hey all.
Guess who's just been given a mac mini, which quite honestly is the
best computer I've ever touched! However all is not well, this mini
seems to be getting a bit hot and bothered - ie: when doing anything
intense it will get hot then shutdown; I understand this is actually a
feature.
I w
Ah, well that is a good question. I'm a Program Manager for Work/Life and
Benefits in human resources, but from a policy side of the hr world. You can
check out http://nasajobs.nasa.gov or http://usajobs.opm.gov.
Good luck,
On Nov 30, 2009, at 4:07 PM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote:
> It's not
I love conversations like that! It's a rare treat for me when
someone comes up and says, basically, "You're different from me and
that fascinates me, and I want to learn." Usually what I get is
"You're different from me and that makes me afraid, so I'm going to
control what I fear so tha
Hi Ben,
There was a podcast about this on MacWorld some time ago. With instructions.
But I can not remember the title of the episode. Search for mini and I think
you will find it.
Hope this helps,
John André
On 30. nov. 2009, at 22.12, ben mustill-rose wrote:
> Hey all.
>
> Guess who's just
Ben, I haven't tried this myself, but I do understand you'll hear all sorts of
cracking and other noises that are apparently scary sounding. I'm wondering if
it is dust or something else. What version of the OS is it running, how much
ram, and where are you encountering the issues with overheati
Hi Donna,
You can force quit any app by pressing Command-Option-Escape, and then
choosing the application you want to quit if you cannot exit
regularly. I've not seen this behavior with TextEdit, but I don't
usually try to change to specific font selections. I've read that one
source of o
I only have to do the steps I mentioned when the program won't shut down with
Command q and it's giving you a nonstop busy signal. It will tell you in the
box that comes up whether the program is responding or not. If Text Edit is
not responding then simply hit return to select it and then rel
Yep, I troll those sites all the time. :) Thanks.
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or better yet, call Microsoft and tell them that Apple is making their products
accessible out of the box, why can't they. :) I agree with you 100% I have
always hated the word "disabled." It sounds like everything is disabled, not
just my eyes. I love my work place because people have disc
Thanks! I knew something like that existed. I tried Command Option Q,
but to no avail.
Best,
Donna
On Nov 30, 2009, at 3:55 PM, carlene knight wrote:
> Hi Donna:
>
> Try pressing Command Option Escape all at once. A dialog should pop
> up asking you which program you want to quit.. Simply a
Hi John,
John W. Carty wrote:
> I'm looking to make the leap to a mac and currently I heavily use
> spreadsheets so can anyone who uses lots of spreadsheets that
> utilizes multi sheet references, formulas, functions, if logic, etc
> let me know how numbers performs with vo.
I'm going to p
Urrggg! We could get into a discussion about the NFB as I think they have made
a lot of things worse in pretending we don't have different needs than the
sighted workd. but I think that's an OT subject. I could write essays about
it though. As I said, the sales people at Apple stores should
With all due respect, that argument has been used time and time
again. To that, I say this: the best example of a product that has
gone down in price because of the acceptance of it by the sighted
community, is the optical scanner, which was originally intended for
use by the blind for sca
Thanks, Esther. this was the first time I tried to set the font in a
document, so I wasn't sure if it was user error. I'll give this
another try. What does one do if there is a corrupted font file?
thanks,
Donna
On Nov 30, 2009, at 4:20 PM, Esther wrote:
> Hi Donna,
>
> You can force quit an
Scott, I never would have had my interest peaked about the iPhone,
were it not for my niece, Elisabeth, who had one and though she didn't
show me how to operate it, she thought it could be adapted so that
blind people could use it. Richie Gardenhire, Anchorage, Alaska.
On Nov 30, 2009, at
Hello Charlie,
Here is the contact information for the Lighthouse store from which you may
purchase Apple user guides.
Mark
Lighthouse For The Blind Adaptations Store Info
Adaptations San Francisco
415) 431-1481 x301 or x305
214 Van Ness Ave.
San Francisco, CA 94102
adaptati...@lighthouse-sf.org
Exactly so. The fact is that I forget that I'm seen as disabled
because I'm the strongest person in my world. To me, many people who
try to "help," me are the ones in desperate need of help themselves,
but I realize that this point of view is just switching the shoe to
the other foot and
Donna, to quit an application it's Command q, no option key. Command Option
escape is the force quit command when the program won't respond with Command
q.. HOpe that helps.
On Nov 30, 2009, at 1:37 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
> Thanks! I knew something like that existed. I tried Command Option Q
I wouldn't risk doing this if I were you for the simple reason, one
the casing has been tampered with, unless one knows what they're
doing, the Mac Mini would be hard to put back together again. If it
shuts down, chances are, it's a safety feature, although it shouldn't;
Mac Minis run fair
Got it. thanks.
Donna
On Nov 30, 2009, at 4:56 PM, carlene knight wrote:
> Donna, to quit an application it's Command q, no option key.
> Command Option escape is the force quit command when the program
> won't respond with Command q.. HOpe that helps.
> On Nov 30, 2009, at 1:37 PM, Donna Go
Hi all,
In short, how does one do this? I have incorporated text from 2
different documents, and want to make sure the font is the same
throughout my final document. I've tried Command-T, but I just get
some weird text underline menu. Thinking about it, I guess my
question is twofold:
1
Hi Donna,
I think that corrupted font files are in the rare but possible
category, which is why this is a source of "mysterious" problems.
What I've noted is that when I run heavy-duty diagnostic and disk
repair software -- like Alsoft's Disk Warrior, which can reconstruct
and repair syst
Hi, I'm having trouble sending mail on my Mac Mini. I checked the
settings on both my iMac and Mac Mini and both settings for each
account are identical. However, on my Mac Mini, I keep getting a
message that says: "The SMPT server is not responding," or "The SMPT
server has timed out."
I'm with you on the anarchy, though I've chosen to just stay close mouthed
about things I disagree with and take what I get and smile. If there is someone
who I see is the same way or who I might be able to help by possibly pushing
them off the ideals track, I'm totally willing to do so, though
I know that the companies take huge advantage of the fact that they have a
guaranteed nitch and can charge whatever they want. That's why I will not
upgrade my JAWS SMA. For one thing I don't need it and secondly, I don't want
to pay that kind of price for an upgrade, but FS knows that they ca
Why are you dependent on agencies to do stuff? Your just as capable as they are
of doing the research. More than likely your more capable because you won't
just go with the normal and will choose what you like for whatever reasons. The
hunt for accessible software is hard at times, but it's not
It would, in fact be great to see jaws in the stores, but that'd just give FS a
reason to double the costs. That and stocking jaws on shelves that won't ever
need it. The stores actually have to pay for it, then pay for the new version
when a new one comes out, etc.
On Nov 30, 2009, at 1:50 PM,
Hey Richie, so now that the iPhone is accessible, what does she think about
that?
Considering she thought it was possible and now it is, she must be pretty
impressed. :)
On Nov 30, 2009, at 4:54 PM, Richie Gardenhire wrote:
> Scott, I never would have had my interest peaked about the iPhone,
>
It would figure that it was the NFB. I went to a tech meeting there, and
discussed the history of technology. While there they discussed how much the
NFB affected technology and used examples, but they forgot to mention other
companies; Voiceover, window eyes, speak up, orca, etc.
I found it mil
I'm not good at covert, except insofar as the art of invisibility is
concerned, and for me that has limited applications as of yet. I
cannot stand to be disrespected to my face. Only recently have I been
able to tolerate having someone be rude to me over the phone or by E-
mail and take it
it doesn't bother me really. I just laugh and know that I'm at least helping
one person, which is what I care about. If the rest want to throw themselves in
with the flock and kneel at the feet of the people in NFB, so be it. More power
to them. While that might sound arrogant, it's more of a wa
in 1990, when OutSpoken for the Mac came out and I was using it at my
place of employment, I was asked to demonstrate it as a visually
impaired computer users group in Boston, MA. I got up there and
demonstrated it with four part harmony and feeling, and the guy from
MS got up and started
Hello there,
I was just trying to perform non contiguous file selection and I can't seem to
do it. I thought maybe holding down the control key would allow me to arrow
through files and press the space bar to select the ones I really wanted. I
also tried command+shift+up and down arrow with n
Thank you Mark. I personaly don't read Braille but my partner and I
are attemping to spread the word about Apple computers and vo. It is
our hope to put an Apple in the hands of every blind person who would
like, and this information is very helpful. I will forward your info
to people whom
Barbara,
I have just learned that Braille manuals for the mac are available
from the lighthouse in San Francisco. Here is the information
Aloha,
Charlie
On Nov 30, 2009, at 11:54 AM, "M. Taylor" wrote:
> Hello Charlie,
>
> Here is the contact information for the Lighthouse store from which
Not sure if this was a typo but it's smtp. If you typed it as smpt in your
smtp server it won't work.
On Nov 30, 2009, at 5:19 PM, Richie Gardenhire wrote:
> Hi, I'm having trouble sending mail on my Mac Mini. I checked the
> settings on both my iMac and Mac Mini and both settings for each
Hi
Now, here's something I've done quite a few times. The general process
of opening up the Mac Mini is as follows:
1. Get a putty knife or other flat instrament. If you don't want to
scratch the case, plastic is best although with a stronger metal knife
this is actually easier but much more likely
You probably checked this, but what about the selection in mailboxes
for taking accounts online? good luck, Max
On Nov 30, 2009, at 4:19 PM, Richie Gardenhire wrote:
> Hi, I'm having trouble sending mail on my Mac Mini. I checked the
> settings on both my iMac and Mac Mini and both settings fo
I did that; still can't send mail. Richie Gardenhire, Anchorage,
Alaska.
On Nov 30, 2009, at 4:34 PM, Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:
You probably checked this, but what about the selection in mailboxes
for taking accounts online? good luck, Max
On Nov 30, 2009, at 4:19 PM, Richie Gardenhire wrote:
When I told her I was considering getting an iPhone after the first of
the year, she said, "Why wait till then, when it's possible you may
get one for Christmas." Richie Gardenhire, Anchorage, Alaska.
On Nov 30, 2009, at 1:26 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
Hey Richie, so now that the iPhone is acc
Why not have a provision in the Healthcare Bill, where this would
include covering the cost of a screenreader as a medical expense, much
in the manner that wheelchairs and certain types of hearing aids are
covered? Quite frankly, I don't think it would fly simply because
Congress would the
Are you kidding? they won't even pay for abortions for women who
really need them, I doubt anything funded by *our* government will pay
for a screen reader.
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I have changed the subject line to more reflect on the discussion at
hand. If Apple can set aside resources to make their Mac computers
universally marketed across the board, there is no reason why
Microsoftshouldn't, (and they definitely have the resources and the
technical expertise thro
hey guys some times i press keys on my mac and v o sais "serching this
mac" but what does that mean? and what keys do i press to do this?
your help with this would be most welcome!!!
kind regards trahern.
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Hi Ray,
When you are in a list of files where you want to do a noncontiguous selection,
do the following.
1. locate the first file that you want to select and interact with the list and
it will be selected. You can verify this with VO+F6.
2. Press VO+shift+F3 to turn cursor tracking off.
3. H
Hello Ray,
Robert did an excellent job summarizing how to do non-contiguous selection in a
list. I'll just add that VO-Command-Space is a toggle action -- if you want to
undo a selection that you added by mistake (and discovered by reviewing the
list of selected files using VO-F6) you can navi
Hi Donna,
1. To hear text attributes, control + option + t
If in Text Edit, you'll here the size, font family name, and whether the line
is aligned left right or center
2. command + t should bring up font choices where you can pick which font
family, the size, and I can't recall what other choi
Hi Israel,
Thanks! I will try this out in the morning, but I'm sure it will
help. thanks for setting me straight on Command-T versus Vo-T. :)
Best,
Donna
On Nov 30, 2009, at 10:22 PM, Israel wrote:
> Hi Donna,
> 1. To hear text attributes, control + option + t
> If in Text Edit, you'll here t
I purchased my first Apple computer about three months ago. I will never
forget the feeling of complete surprise and joy at being able to just turn the
iMac on and get it talking within minutes. Microsoft is not to blame for not
having default Windows access out of the box, blind people are to
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