Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-10 Thread Jenny Kennedy
gt; usb hub. >> Best wishes >> Jenny >> >> On 7/9/09, James & Nash wrote: >>> >>> Ah ok i understand now tahnk you >>> >>> James >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Alex Jurgensen" >>> To

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-09 Thread Alex Jurgensen
wouldn't have to look for such a large > usb hub. > Best wishes > Jenny > > On 7/9/09, James & Nash wrote: >> >> Ah ok i understand now tahnk you >> >> James >> - Original Message - >> From: "Alex Jurgensen" >> To:

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-09 Thread Jenny Kennedy
tahnk you > > James > - Original Message - > From: "Alex Jurgensen" > To: > Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 4:28 PM > Subject: Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard > > >> >> HI, >> >> No. The older Macbooks used to have a built-in Numpad over

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-09 Thread James & Nash
Ah ok i understand now tahnk you James - Original Message - From: "Alex Jurgensen" To: Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 4:28 PM Subject: Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard > > HI, > > No. The older Macbooks used to have a built-in Numpad overlay. The > external nu

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-09 Thread Alex Jurgensen
> and i > attached a desktop keyboard to it, I would be unable to use the numpad > commander. Is this also the case for MacBook Pro? > > Thanks > > James > - Original Message - > From: "Alex Jurgensen" > To: > Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 2:20 PM &

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-09 Thread James & Nash
y, July 09, 2009 2:20 PM Subject: Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard > > HI, > > They scrapped the number pad on the Macbooks,, but as far as > anythingelse, I have not heard anyting. > > Regards, > Alex, > > > On 9-Jul-09, at 2:39 AM, Scott Howell wrote: > >> &

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-09 Thread Alex Jurgensen
>>>> whomever you entered into the agreement with, it also jeopardizes >>>>>> future involvement in other projects. Point is you agreed to a >>>>>> contract and knowing the terms and conditions of that contract, >>>>>> you >&g

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-09 Thread kaare dehard
gt;>>>> or >>>>>> whomever you entered into the agreement with, it also jeopardizes >>>>>> future involvement in other projects. Point is you agreed to a >>>>>> contract and knowing the terms and conditions of that contract, >>>>>>

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-09 Thread Scott Howell
>>>>> On 7 Jul 2009, at 19:11, Alex Jurgensen wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> Red flag, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We are moving into grey ares. Please keep the

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-09 Thread Jenny Kennedy
;>>>>>>> with voices in italian, greek, arabic, russian polish, etc. or >>>>>>>> whether >>>>>>>> we are still locked down to using acapella >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 7 Jul 2009, at 18:07, Koumanova

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-08 Thread Marshall Scott
>>>>> >>>>>>>> i did not understand this post. >>>>>>>> i know that you have to buy the foreign languages. >>>>>>>> rk >>>>>>>> Il giorno 07/lug/09, alle ore 18:06, william lomas ha scr

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-08 Thread william lomas
ties. > > Take care > > James > - Original Message - > From: "Justin Harford" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 8:33 AM > Subject: Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard > > > > > Alex wrote: > >> anyways in the >&g

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-08 Thread James & Nash
ject: Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard Alex wrote: > anyways in the > ipod iand the IPhone, t is that of nuance Umm. is this English that you are writing to me? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Grou

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-08 Thread James & Nash
: "Justin Harford" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 12:52 AM Subject: Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard > > Exactly. I am not going to trouble myself feeling discriminated > against over this, and particularly against the only computer/ > electronics company in the world th

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-08 Thread william lomas
In the IPod and the IPhone the voices that are used, originate from Nuance. On 8 Jul 2009, at 08:33, Justin Harford wrote: > > > Alex wrote: > >> anyways in the >> ipod iand the IPhone, t is that of nuance > > Umm… is this English that you are writing to me? > > > --~--~-~--~~---

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-08 Thread Justin Harford
Alex wrote: > anyways in the > ipod iand the IPhone, t is that of nuance Umm… is this English that you are writing to me? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-08 Thread william lomas
the synthesizer technology they use is not their own anyways in the ipod iand the IPhone, t is that of nuance On 8 Jul 2009, at 06:48, Justin Harford wrote: > > > Alex wrote: > >> What I meant is that I felt that someone made a comment of something >> that only insiders would know. It was not

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-07 Thread Justin Harford
Alex wrote: > What I meant is that I felt that someone made a comment of something > that only insiders would know. It was not something that Apple made > public. OK OK fair enough. I suppose there is a marginal possibility that apple will defy all logic and not introduce the synthesizer tec

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-07 Thread Justin Harford
Alex wrote: > There was Snow Leopard and Leopard accessibility > demonstrations at WWDC both years according to Apple. They just > weren't in the main keynote I guess. You guess? I just watched a WWDC on snowleopard and saw zero (0) accessibility demonstration. Sure they mentioned it regard

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-07 Thread Alex Jurgensen
gt;>>>> On 7 Jul 2009, at 18:07, Koumanova Rostislava wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> i did not understand this post. >>>>>>>> i know that you have to buy the foreign languages. >>>&g

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-07 Thread Alex Jurgensen
9, at 18:07, Koumanova Rostislava wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> i did not understand this post. >>>>>>>> i know that you have to buy the foreign languages. >>>>>>>&

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-07 Thread Alex Jurgensen
you can hear it in your >>>>>>>> own >>>>>>>> languages >>>>>>>> but i hope that the eighteen or so work with pre-defined >>>>>>>> foreign >>>>>>>> voices >>>>>>>> &

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-07 Thread Justin Harford
;>>>>>> i did not understand this post. >>>>>>>> i know that you have to buy the foreign languages. >>>>>>>> rk >>>>>>>> Il giorno 07/lug/09, alle ore 18:06, william lomas ha scritto: >>>>>>>> >>&g

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-07 Thread Scott Howell
t;>>>>>> with nine new ones and with the voices you can hear it in your >>>>>>>> own >>>>>>>> languages >>>>>>>> but i hope that the eighteen or so work with pre-defined >>>>>>>> foreign >>

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-07 Thread Barry Hadder
; with nine new ones and with the voices you can hear it in your >>>>>>>> own >>>>>>>> languages >>>>>>>> but i hope that the eighteen or so work with pre-defined >>>>>>>> foreign >>>>>>&g

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-07 Thread James & Nash
We did however get a sample of Alex back when Leopard first came out. - Original Message - From: "william lomas" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 10:46 PM Subject: Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard > > i agree, even a small five minute demo of what is to come, o

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-07 Thread James & Nash
I agree with you totally Justin Take care James - Original Message - From: "Justin Harford" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 10:41 PM Subject: Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard > > Hi all > > I just got a look at this thread. It seems that, once again, I am &g

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-07 Thread william lomas
; with nine new ones and with the voices you can hear it in your >>>>>>>> own >>>>>>>> languages >>>>>>>> but i hope that the eighteen or so work with pre-defined >>>>>>>> foreign >>>>>&

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-07 Thread Justin Harford
entirely agree. They have always acknowledged my >>>>>>>> posts, >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> I'm sure they are trying to do their best in Braille support. I >>>>>>>> wouldn't be without my Mac

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-07 Thread william lomas
a single user session. Will we need to create two separate > accounts? One for French and one for English? > > James > > > - Original Message - > From: "william lomas" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 10:15 PM > Subject: Re: Voice Over in Snow L

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-07 Thread James & Nash
Message - From: "william lomas" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 10:15 PM Subject: Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard > > we don't even know if they are to be included. if and i mean if they > were, they will be i assume the ones that are on the ipod shuffle and > th

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-07 Thread william lomas
nthesizers > please? > > Take care > > James > - Original Message - > From: "Justin Harford" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 9:42 PM > Subject: Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard > > >> >> Hmm, I just went over the snow leopard de

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-07 Thread James & Nash
Hi Justin, Is there anywhere that I can hear a sample of these synthesizers please? Take care James - Original Message - From: "Justin Harford" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 9:42 PM Subject: Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard > > Hmm, I just went over the snow leo

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-07 Thread Justin Harford
entirely agree. They have always acknowledged my >>>>>>>> posts, >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> I'm sure they are trying to do their best in Braille support. I >>>>>>>> wouldn't be without my Mac now. No re

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-07 Thread Koumanova Rostislava
t; >>>>>>> On 7 Jul 2009, at 16:51, Simon Cavendish wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> O yes, I entirely agree. They have always acknowledged my >>>>>>>> posts, >>>>>>>

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-07 Thread Simon Cavendish
t;> On 7 Jul 2009, at 16:51, Simon Cavendish wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> O yes, I entirely agree. They have always acknowledged my >>>>>>>> posts, >>>>>>>>

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-07 Thread Scott Howell
'm sure they are trying to do their best in Braille support. I >>>>>>> wouldn't be without my Mac now. No regrets switching on my part! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> With best wishes, Simon >>>>>>> On 7 Jul 2009, at 16:4

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-07 Thread Josh de Lioncourt
No one has the "right" to break the law. We will all know what to expect in Snow Leopard when all the information is made public. Being blind is also not an excuse for breaking the law. This is just a matter of breaking NDA contracts because of a few people's impatience. No one is making

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-07 Thread James & Nash
ntirely agree. They have always acknowledged my posts, >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> I'm sure they are trying to do their best in Braille support. I >>>>>>> wouldn't be without my Mac now. No regrets switching on my part! >&

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-07 Thread william lomas
thout my Mac now. No regrets switching on my part! >>>>>> >>>>>> With best wishes, Simon >>>>>> On 7 Jul 2009, at 16:44, James & Nash wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I hear what you'

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-07 Thread Alex Jurgensen
itching on my part! >>>>> >>>>> With best wishes, Simon >>>>> On 7 Jul 2009, at 16:44, James & Nash wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I hear what you're saying Simon. To Apple's credit, t

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-07 Thread Justin Harford
gt;>> always >>>>> acknowledged my messages and have offered support where they >>>>> can. I >>>>> still >>>>> like and would continue to use Windows for things but I do miss >>>>> Mac. >>>>> That's &

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-07 Thread william lomas
at you're saying Simon. To Apple's credit, they have >>>> always >>>> acknowledged my messages and have offered support where they can. I >>>> still >>>> like and would continue to use Windows for things but I do miss >>>> Mac

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-07 Thread Koumanova Rostislava
s credit, they have always >>> acknowledged my messages and have offered support where they can. I >>> still >>> like and would continue to use Windows for things but I do miss Mac. >>> That's >>> why I'm going to purchase a new one. >>>

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-07 Thread James Dietz
n the Snow Leopard page there is a host of different >>>>> features. >>>>> Yes, I >>>>> think I remember reading that something - it may have been Voice >>>>> Over - was >>>>> localized in about 40 different languages. But I

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-07 Thread william lomas
why I'm going to purchase a new one. >> - Original Message ----- >> From: "Simon Cavendish" >> To: >> Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 4:34 PM >> Subject: Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard >> >> >>> >>> I have been e-mailing Apple a

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-07 Thread Simon Cavendish
new one. > - Original Message - > From: "Simon Cavendish" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 4:34 PM > Subject: Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard > > >> >> I have been e-mailing Apple accessibility regarding providing a >> broader support in refr

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-07 Thread James & Nash
Message - From: "Simon Cavendish" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 4:34 PM Subject: Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard > > I have been e-mailing Apple accessibility regarding providing a > broader support in refreshable Braille for other languages. I do hope > Snow Leopard is

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-07 Thread Simon Cavendish
gt; James > - Original Message - > From: "william lomas" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 11:39 AM > Subject: Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard > > > > is there a complete list of new features? i.e. > .do we get new language voices i wonder > . new

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-07 Thread Barry Lipscomb
l...@aple.com and asked them. > > Take care > > James > - Original Message - > From: "Barry Lipscomb" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 1:41 PM > Subject: Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard > > >> >> I am a low vision user and I was

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-07 Thread James & Nash
To: Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 1:41 PM Subject: Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard > > I am a low vision user and I was wondering if anyone has heard if > there will be an upgrade to the full screen magnifier. I know in > windows when you are using a program like "Zoomtext"

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-07 Thread Barry Lipscomb
wever, if you can some way implement BRLTTY or ask Apple >> to do so >> we may get native foreign language Braille support. I think Apple is >> Linux >> based, so this should not be too difficult. >> >> Take care >> >> James >> - Original Mes

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-07 Thread Scott Howell
support. I think Apple is > Linux > based, so this should not be too difficult. > > Take care > > James > - Original Message - > From: "william lomas" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 11:39 AM > Subject: Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard &g

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-07 Thread Scott Howell
t; have a copy of 10.5 which I bought last year so if so then there >> shouldn't >> be any problem. >> >> Take care >> >> James >> - Original Message - >> From: "Scott Howell" >> To: >> Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 10:25 AM &

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-07 Thread Scott Howell
James, as best I understand, it is not going to be an upgrade disc, but a full version. When reading the info that is available, it does not state that you must have an existing copy of Leopard. On Jul 7, 2009, at 6:29 AM, James & Nash wrote: > > Hi, > > It sounds like Snow Leopard is an upgr

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-07 Thread kaare dehard
From what I have read, all the keyboard functionality will be available in snow-leopard the same ways you have access in leopard, but you probably won't have access to the touchpad commander. On 6-Jul-09, at 7:59 PM, Jenny Kennedy wrote: > > Okay. So am I to understand that the macbook pro l

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-07 Thread James & Nash
I wouldn't be surprised if VO was in other languages for Snow Leopard though. It might be a good idea to E Mail Apple Accessibility. - Original Message - From: "william lomas" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 11:59 AM Subject: Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard > >

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-07 Thread william lomas
> Linux > based, so this should not be too difficult. > > Take care > > James > - Original Message - > From: "william lomas" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 11:39 AM > Subject: Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard > > > > is there a compl

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-07 Thread James & Nash
Apple to do so we may get native foreign language Braille support. I think Apple is Linux based, so this should not be too difficult. Take care James - Original Message - From: "william lomas" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 11:39 AM Subject: Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopar

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-07 Thread william lomas
ow Leopard is an upgrade. Is this the case? > Fortunately, I > have a copy of 10.5 which I bought last year so if so then there > shouldn't > be any problem. > > Take care > > James > - Original Message - > From: "Scott Howell" > To: >

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-07 Thread James & Nash
0:25 AM Subject: Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard > > Maybe so, but it will be worth upgrading and the cost is so unreal, it > doesn't make much since to skip this upgrade. There are other reasons > beyond accessibility to upgrade. I can guarantee you that $30 is a > very small pr

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-07 Thread Scott Howell
Maybe so, but it will be worth upgrading and the cost is so unreal, it doesn't make much since to skip this upgrade. There are other reasons beyond accessibility to upgrade. I can guarantee you that $30 is a very small price to pay for the improvements and many of which you may not have co

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-06 Thread william lomas
i doubt we get new voices except maybe the ones found in the i phone. I am going to wait to upgrade i think, what I have now works fine. UPgrading won't give us for example, access to flash content so no point in me upgrading since a lot of sites I use, require flash navigation which adobe

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-06 Thread Jenny Kennedy
Yay! I'm very very glad to hear this wonderful news. A little bummed I don't have a fancy trackpad. I have heard some of the iPhone demos and gestures just sound so cool and fun. I guess I'll just put up with old tech. LOL I hope to get an iPhone in the future and will be happy to wait 'til then

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-06 Thread Scott Howell
Jenny, first only the Aluminum MacBooks contain the multi-touch trackpad unless Apple upgrades the MacBook line-Remember the aluminum models are now referred to as the MacBook Pro line. Yes SL will work fine on your model. The most significant requirement is it must be an Intel processor s

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-06 Thread Scott Bresnahan
Hi, Snow Leopard will work quite nicely on any Intel Mac, including any MacBook, white or Al. And, how quickly we forget. The most powerful Macs out there are the desktop MacPros that don't have the little trackpad "thingy". So yes, VO will work via the old stand by, tethered technology of

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-06 Thread Jenny Kennedy
Okay. So am I to understand that the macbook pro line is the only line that has this fancy mousepad thing? I got my macbook in April of 08 and it is the little white one. I adore it and have been waiting for SL to come out. Will SL even work at all on this sort of macbook? Oh I'm sure the os will

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-06 Thread Claude Renaud
Hello James, Sunday, July 5, 2009, 12:31:19 PM, you wrote: JN> Hi everyone, JN> I've been reading the new VO features in Snow Leopard. Where di you read this please ? Regards, -- Claude Renaud --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-05 Thread James & Nash
: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2009 12:37 PM Subject: Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard James, only in MacBooks with the multi-touch trackpad, which at this point is the Pro line. I wouldn't worry to much about the battery honestly. If you have a store or autho

Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-05 Thread Scott Howell
James, only in MacBooks with the multi-touch trackpad, which at this point is the Pro line. I wouldn't worry to much about the battery honestly. If you have a store or authorized service center near you, it is very easy to change the battery if necessary. Actually you could replace it yours

Voice Over in Snow Leopard

2009-07-05 Thread James & Nash
Hi everyone, I've been reading the new VO features in Snow Leopard. However, I've heard that the new gestures feature only works on a MacBook Pro is this true? Does anyone have any idea how many of the new VO features will work on a MacBook as I don't really like the idea of an in-built batter