Hi, Red flag, We are moving into grey ares. Please keep the posts NDA compliant.
Thanks, Alex, On 7-Jul-09, at 10:46 AM, Justin Harford wrote: > > It will. > On Jul 7, 2009, at 10:13 AM, william lomas wrote: > >> >> what I meant to say was I am not sure if voice over itself will ship >> with voices in italian, greek, arabic, russian polish, etc. or >> whether >> we are still locked down to using acapella >> >> On 7 Jul 2009, at 18:07, Koumanova Rostislava wrote: >> >>> >>> i did not understand this post. >>> i know that you have to buy the foreign languages. >>> rk >>> Il giorno 07/lug/09, alle ore 18:06, william lomas ha scritto: >>> >>>> >>>> it says on the site the quickstart is localised in eighteen >>>> languages >>>> with nine new ones and with the voices you can hear it in your own >>>> languages >>>> but i hope that the eighteen or so work with pre-defined foreign >>>> voices >>>> >>>> On 7 Jul 2009, at 16:51, Simon Cavendish wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> O yes, I entirely agree. They have always acknowledged my posts, >>>>> and >>>>> I'm sure they are trying to do their best in Braille support. I >>>>> wouldn't be without my Mac now. No regrets switching on my part! >>>>> >>>>> With best wishes, Simon >>>>> On 7 Jul 2009, at 16:44, James & Nash wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I hear what you're saying Simon. To Apple's credit, they have >>>>>> always >>>>>> acknowledged my messages and have offered support where they >>>>>> can. I >>>>>> still >>>>>> like and would continue to use Windows for things but I do miss >>>>>> Mac. >>>>>> That's >>>>>> why I'm going to purchase a new one. >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "Simon Cavendish" <simon.cavend...@googlemail.com> >>>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 4:34 PM >>>>>> Subject: Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have been e-mailing Apple accessibility regarding providing a >>>>>>> broader support in refreshable Braille for other languages. I do >>>>>>> hope >>>>>>> Snow Leopard is going to bring this aspect to those of us who >>>>>>> would >>>>>>> benefit from it. It would certainly accelerate my leaving >>>>>>> Windows >>>>>>> behind altogether. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> With best wishes >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Simon >>>>>>> On 7 Jul 2009, at 11:50, James & Nash wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Well on the Snow Leopard page there is a host of different >>>>>>>> features. >>>>>>>> Yes, I >>>>>>>> think I remember reading that something - it may have been >>>>>>>> Voice >>>>>>>> Over - was >>>>>>>> localized in about 40 different languages. But I'm not sure >>>>>>>> about >>>>>>>> Braille >>>>>>>> support. However, if you can some way implement BRLTTY or ask >>>>>>>> Apple >>>>>>>> to do so >>>>>>>> we may get native foreign language Braille support. I think >>>>>>>> Apple >>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>> Linux >>>>>>>> based, so this should not be too difficult. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Take care >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> James >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>> From: "william lomas" <lomaswill...@googlemail.com> >>>>>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 11:39 AM >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> is there a complete list of new features? i.e. >>>>>>>> .do we get new language voices i wonder >>>>>>>> . new braille support in other alnguages? >>>>>>>> etc >>>>>>>> i guess we will not know these details really until the product >>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>> out >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 7 Jul 2009, at 11:29, James & Nash wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It sounds like Snow Leopard is an upgrade. Is this the case? >>>>>>>>> Fortunately, I >>>>>>>>> have a copy of 10.5 which I bought last year so if so then >>>>>>>>> there >>>>>>>>> shouldn't >>>>>>>>> be any problem. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Take care >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> James >>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>> From: "Scott Howell" <s.how...@verizon.net> >>>>>>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 10:25 AM >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Maybe so, but it will be worth upgrading and the cost is so >>>>>>>>>> unreal, >>>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>> doesn't make much since to skip this upgrade. There are other >>>>>>>>>> reasons >>>>>>>>>> beyond accessibility to upgrade. I can guarantee you that $30 >>>>>>>>>> is a >>>>>>>>>> very small price to pay for the improvements and many of >>>>>>>>>> which >>>>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>>>> may >>>>>>>>>> not have considered or realized. >>>>>>>>>> On Jul 7, 2009, at 2:47 AM, william lomas wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> i doubt we get new voices except maybe the ones found in >>>>>>>>>>> the i >>>>>>>>>>> phone. >>>>>>>>>>> I am going to wait to upgrade i think, what I have now works >>>>>>>>>>> fine. >>>>>>>>>>> UPgrading won't give us for example, access to flash content >>>>>>>>>>> so >>>>>>>>>>> no >>>>>>>>>>> point in me upgrading since a lot of sites I use, require >>>>>>>>>>> flash >>>>>>>>>>> navigation which adobe have not yet incorporated into the >>>>>>>>>>> safari or >>>>>>>>>>> other web browsers >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 7 Jul 2009, at 02:53, Jenny Kennedy wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Yay! I'm very very glad to hear this wonderful news. A >>>>>>>>>>>> little >>>>>>>>>>>> bummed I >>>>>>>>>>>> don't have a fancy trackpad. I have heard some of the >>>>>>>>>>>> iPhone >>>>>>>>>>>> demos >>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>> gestures just sound so cool and fun. I guess I'll just >>>>>>>>>>>> put >>>>>>>>>>>> up >>>>>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>>>>> old tech. LOL I hope to get an iPhone in the future and >>>>>>>>>>>> will >>>>>>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>>>>>> happy >>>>>>>>>>>> to wait 'til then to try gestures. Unless my getting a new >>>>>>>>>>>> macbook >>>>>>>>>>>> happens first. But as this one is still fairly newish I'll >>>>>>>>>>>> wait. >>>>>>>>>>>> Who >>>>>>>>>>>> know by the time it comes time for me to get a new macbook >>>>>>>>>>>> they'll of >>>>>>>>>>>> come up with many more new and cool things. : smiley : >>>>>>>>>>>> Can't wait 'til SL comes out. I know it's not too far off >>>>>>>>>>>> but. >>>>>>>>>>>> It >>>>>>>>>>>> sounds so awesome. Am keen to hear any new voices. Have >>>>>>>>>>>> always >>>>>>>>>>>> liked >>>>>>>>>>>> the UK voices. The best thing would be a UK version of >>>>>>>>>>>> Alex, >>>>>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>> breths and all. I still think that's uber cool how Alex >>>>>>>>>>>> voice >>>>>>>>>>>> does >>>>>>>>>>>> that. >>>>>>>>>>>> Jenny >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/09, Scott Howell <s.how...@verizon.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Jenny, first only the Aluminum MacBooks contain the multi- >>>>>>>>>>>>> touch >>>>>>>>>>>>> trackpad unless Apple upgrades the MacBook line-Remember >>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>> aluminum >>>>>>>>>>>>> models are now referred to as the MacBook Pro line. Yes SL >>>>>>>>>>>>> will >>>>>>>>>>>>> work >>>>>>>>>>>>> fine on your model. The most significant requirement is it >>>>>>>>>>>>> must >>>>>>>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>>>>>>> an >>>>>>>>>>>>> Intel processor since the Power PC chips, such as found in >>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>> G4/G5 >>>>>>>>>>>>> machines will not be supported by SL. I'd recommend you >>>>>>>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>>>>>>> least >>>>>>>>>>>>> 2Gb ram, but 1Gb will get the job done. The commands, >>>>>>>>>>>>> which >>>>>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>>>>> issued >>>>>>>>>>>>> from the trackpad are the same commands you can issue >>>>>>>>>>>>> currently >>>>>>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>>>>>> VO. It is another means to interact with the os using VO >>>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>>>>> hard to say what the future holds for such a trackpad and >>>>>>>>>>>>> VO. >>>>>>>>>>>>> The >>>>>>>>>>>>> point is that if you have heard the iPhone demos, you can >>>>>>>>>>>>> get >>>>>>>>>>>>> an >>>>>>>>>>>>> idea >>>>>>>>>>>>> of how the trackpad could behave and a little imagination >>>>>>>>>>>>> might >>>>>>>>>>>>> lead >>>>>>>>>>>>> you to speculate what Apple could possibly do in the >>>>>>>>>>>>> future. >>>>>>>>>>>>> So, have no fear and prepare to upgrade, it will be well >>>>>>>>>>>>> worth >>>>>>>>>>>>> it. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 6, 2009, at 7:59 PM, Jenny Kennedy wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Okay. So am I to understand that the macbook pro line is >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> only >>>>>>>>>>>>>> line >>>>>>>>>>>>>> that has this fancy mousepad thing? I got my macbook in >>>>>>>>>>>>>> April >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of 08 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and it is the little white one. I adore it and have been >>>>>>>>>>>>>> waiting >>>>>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>>>> SL to come out. Will SL even work at all on this sort of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> macbook? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure the os will work but will VO function if I don't >>>>>>>>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>>>>>> fancy mousepad thing? Are there keyboard shortcuts to do >>>>>>>>>>>>>> whatever >>>>>>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>>>>>> doable with the mousepad? Sorry to be so abrupt gotta >>>>>>>>>>>>>> run. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks >>>>>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>>>> any answers >>>>>>>>>>>>>> best wishes >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jenny >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/09, Claude Renaud <cldren...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello James, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sunday, July 5, 2009, 12:31:19 PM, you wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JN> Hi everyone, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JN> I've been reading the new VO features in Snow >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Leopard. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where di you read this please ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Claude Renaud >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>>> >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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