If that does happen, that's fantastic news. Accapella are fantastic voices but it would be cool to have French and other European and Slavic languages etc included by default. ----- Original Message ----- From: "william lomas" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 7:15 PM Subject: Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard
> > fair enough though we are all blind and have a right to know what will > be included in my view > > On 7 Jul 2009, at 19:11, Alex Jurgensen wrote: > >> >> Hi, >> Red flag, >> >> We are moving into grey ares. Please keep the posts NDA compliant. >> >> Thanks, >> Alex, >> >> >> On 7-Jul-09, at 10:46 AM, Justin Harford wrote: >> >>> >>> It will. >>> On Jul 7, 2009, at 10:13 AM, william lomas wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> what I meant to say was I am not sure if voice over itself will ship >>>> with voices in italian, greek, arabic, russian polish, etc. or >>>> whether >>>> we are still locked down to using acapella >>>> >>>> On 7 Jul 2009, at 18:07, Koumanova Rostislava wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> i did not understand this post. >>>>> i know that you have to buy the foreign languages. >>>>> rk >>>>> Il giorno 07/lug/09, alle ore 18:06, william lomas ha scritto: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> it says on the site the quickstart is localised in eighteen >>>>>> languages >>>>>> with nine new ones and with the voices you can hear it in your own >>>>>> languages >>>>>> but i hope that the eighteen or so work with pre-defined foreign >>>>>> voices >>>>>> >>>>>> On 7 Jul 2009, at 16:51, Simon Cavendish wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> O yes, I entirely agree. They have always acknowledged my posts, >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> I'm sure they are trying to do their best in Braille support. I >>>>>>> wouldn't be without my Mac now. No regrets switching on my part! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> With best wishes, Simon >>>>>>> On 7 Jul 2009, at 16:44, James & Nash wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I hear what you're saying Simon. To Apple's credit, they have >>>>>>>> always >>>>>>>> acknowledged my messages and have offered support where they >>>>>>>> can. I >>>>>>>> still >>>>>>>> like and would continue to use Windows for things but I do miss >>>>>>>> Mac. >>>>>>>> That's >>>>>>>> why I'm going to purchase a new one. >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>> From: "Simon Cavendish" <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 4:34 PM >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I have been e-mailing Apple accessibility regarding providing a >>>>>>>>> broader support in refreshable Braille for other languages. I >>>>>>>>> do >>>>>>>>> hope >>>>>>>>> Snow Leopard is going to bring this aspect to those of us who >>>>>>>>> would >>>>>>>>> benefit from it. It would certainly accelerate my leaving >>>>>>>>> Windows >>>>>>>>> behind altogether. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> With best wishes >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Simon >>>>>>>>> On 7 Jul 2009, at 11:50, James & Nash wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Well on the Snow Leopard page there is a host of different >>>>>>>>>> features. >>>>>>>>>> Yes, I >>>>>>>>>> think I remember reading that something - it may have been >>>>>>>>>> Voice >>>>>>>>>> Over - was >>>>>>>>>> localized in about 40 different languages. But I'm not sure >>>>>>>>>> about >>>>>>>>>> Braille >>>>>>>>>> support. However, if you can some way implement BRLTTY or ask >>>>>>>>>> Apple >>>>>>>>>> to do so >>>>>>>>>> we may get native foreign language Braille support. I think >>>>>>>>>> Apple >>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>> Linux >>>>>>>>>> based, so this should not be too difficult. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Take care >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> James >>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>>> From: "william lomas" <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 11:39 AM >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> is there a complete list of new features? i.e. >>>>>>>>>> .do we get new language voices i wonder >>>>>>>>>> . new braille support in other alnguages? >>>>>>>>>> etc >>>>>>>>>> i guess we will not know these details really until the >>>>>>>>>> product >>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>> out >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 7 Jul 2009, at 11:29, James & Nash wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> It sounds like Snow Leopard is an upgrade. Is this the case? >>>>>>>>>>> Fortunately, I >>>>>>>>>>> have a copy of 10.5 which I bought last year so if so then >>>>>>>>>>> there >>>>>>>>>>> shouldn't >>>>>>>>>>> be any problem. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Take care >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> James >>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>>>> From: "Scott Howell" <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 10:25 AM >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe so, but it will be worth upgrading and the cost is so >>>>>>>>>>>> unreal, >>>>>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't make much since to skip this upgrade. There are >>>>>>>>>>>> other >>>>>>>>>>>> reasons >>>>>>>>>>>> beyond accessibility to upgrade. I can guarantee you that >>>>>>>>>>>> $30 >>>>>>>>>>>> is a >>>>>>>>>>>> very small price to pay for the improvements and many of >>>>>>>>>>>> which >>>>>>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>>>>>> may >>>>>>>>>>>> not have considered or realized. >>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 7, 2009, at 2:47 AM, william lomas wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> i doubt we get new voices except maybe the ones found in >>>>>>>>>>>>> the i >>>>>>>>>>>>> phone. >>>>>>>>>>>>> I am going to wait to upgrade i think, what I have now >>>>>>>>>>>>> works >>>>>>>>>>>>> fine. >>>>>>>>>>>>> UPgrading won't give us for example, access to flash >>>>>>>>>>>>> content >>>>>>>>>>>>> so >>>>>>>>>>>>> no >>>>>>>>>>>>> point in me upgrading since a lot of sites I use, require >>>>>>>>>>>>> flash >>>>>>>>>>>>> navigation which adobe have not yet incorporated into the >>>>>>>>>>>>> safari or >>>>>>>>>>>>> other web browsers >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7 Jul 2009, at 02:53, Jenny Kennedy wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yay! I'm very very glad to hear this wonderful news. A >>>>>>>>>>>>>> little >>>>>>>>>>>>>> bummed I >>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't have a fancy trackpad. I have heard some of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> iPhone >>>>>>>>>>>>>> demos >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> gestures just sound so cool and fun. I guess I'll just >>>>>>>>>>>>>> put >>>>>>>>>>>>>> up >>>>>>>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>>>>>>> old tech. LOL I hope to get an iPhone in the future and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> will >>>>>>>>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>>>>>>>> happy >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to wait 'til then to try gestures. Unless my getting a new >>>>>>>>>>>>>> macbook >>>>>>>>>>>>>> happens first. But as this one is still fairly newish I'll >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wait. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Who >>>>>>>>>>>>>> know by the time it comes time for me to get a new macbook >>>>>>>>>>>>>> they'll of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> come up with many more new and cool things. : smiley : >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can't wait 'til SL comes out. I know it's not too far off >>>>>>>>>>>>>> but. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> It >>>>>>>>>>>>>> sounds so awesome. Am keen to hear any new voices. Have >>>>>>>>>>>>>> always >>>>>>>>>>>>>> liked >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the UK voices. The best thing would be a UK version of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alex, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> breths and all. I still think that's uber cool how Alex >>>>>>>>>>>>>> voice >>>>>>>>>>>>>> does >>>>>>>>>>>>>> that. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jenny >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/09, Scott Howell <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jenny, first only the Aluminum MacBooks contain the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> multi- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> touch >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trackpad unless Apple upgrades the MacBook line-Remember >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aluminum >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> models are now referred to as the MacBook Pro line. Yes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SL >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> work >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fine on your model. The most significant requirement is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> must >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Intel processor since the Power PC chips, such as found >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> G4/G5 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> machines will not be supported by SL. I'd recommend you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> least >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2Gb ram, but 1Gb will get the job done. The commands, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> issued >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the trackpad are the same commands you can issue >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> currently >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> VO. It is another means to interact with the os using VO >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hard to say what the future holds for such a trackpad and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> VO. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> point is that if you have heard the iPhone demos, you can >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> idea >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of how the trackpad could behave and a little imagination >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> might >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lead >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you to speculate what Apple could possibly do in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> future. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, have no fear and prepare to upgrade, it will be well >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> worth >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 6, 2009, at 7:59 PM, Jenny Kennedy wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Okay. So am I to understand that the macbook pro line is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> line >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that has this fancy mousepad thing? I got my macbook in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> April >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of 08 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and it is the little white one. I adore it and have been >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> waiting >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SL to come out. Will SL even work at all on this sort >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> macbook? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure the os will work but will VO function if I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fancy mousepad thing? Are there keyboard shortcuts to do >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whatever >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doable with the mousepad? Sorry to be so abrupt gotta >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> run. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any answers >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> best wishes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jenny >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/09, Claude Renaud <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello James, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sunday, July 5, 2009, 12:31:19 PM, you wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JN> Hi everyone, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JN> I've been reading the new VO features in Snow >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Leopard. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where di you read this please ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Claude Renaud >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>>> >> >> >> > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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