Hi Justin, Is there anywhere that I can hear a sample of these synthesizers please?
Take care James ----- Original Message ----- From: "Justin Harford" <blindst...@gmail.com> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 9:42 PM Subject: Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard > > Hmm, I just went over the snow leopard description and it is true that > it makes no mention of other synthesizers, though it does mention that > the quick-start tutorial is localized in a number of languages. > Nevertheless, I hardly think supposing that it will have other > language synthesizers is a terribly outrageous postulation. I mean > just look at the technology we have in the iPhone. It is now possible > to go through the languages menu, and hear a number of languages > including french, portuguese both brazilian and portugal, Spanish, > Chinese, italian etc all spoken. We know that the iPod shuffle also > has the ability to pronounce the names of songs in other languages. > > Yes I feel safe, without having tried it for myself, in asserting that > the next version of Mac OS X will not only have language localization, > but the synthesizers to hear that language spoken. Granted it won't > be as nice as Alex. It certainly would be crazy to think that Alex is > going to be speaking anything more than English. The synthesizers > will be like those on the iPhone. > > Regards > Justin Harford > On Jul 7, 2009, at 11:24 AM, James & Nash wrote: > >> >> If that does happen, that's fantastic news. Accapella are fantastic >> voices >> but it would be cool to have French and other European and Slavic >> languages >> etc included by default. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "william lomas" <lomaswill...@googlemail.com> >> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 7:15 PM >> Subject: Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard >> >> >>> >>> fair enough though we are all blind and have a right to know what >>> will >>> be included in my view >>> >>> On 7 Jul 2009, at 19:11, Alex Jurgensen wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> Red flag, >>>> >>>> We are moving into grey ares. Please keep the posts NDA compliant. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Alex, >>>> >>>> >>>> On 7-Jul-09, at 10:46 AM, Justin Harford wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> It will. >>>>> On Jul 7, 2009, at 10:13 AM, william lomas wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> what I meant to say was I am not sure if voice over itself will >>>>>> ship >>>>>> with voices in italian, greek, arabic, russian polish, etc. or >>>>>> whether >>>>>> we are still locked down to using acapella >>>>>> >>>>>> On 7 Jul 2009, at 18:07, Koumanova Rostislava wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> i did not understand this post. >>>>>>> i know that you have to buy the foreign languages. >>>>>>> rk >>>>>>> Il giorno 07/lug/09, alle ore 18:06, william lomas ha scritto: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> it says on the site the quickstart is localised in eighteen >>>>>>>> languages >>>>>>>> with nine new ones and with the voices you can hear it in your >>>>>>>> own >>>>>>>> languages >>>>>>>> but i hope that the eighteen or so work with pre-defined foreign >>>>>>>> voices >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 7 Jul 2009, at 16:51, Simon Cavendish wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> O yes, I entirely agree. They have always acknowledged my >>>>>>>>> posts, >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> I'm sure they are trying to do their best in Braille support. I >>>>>>>>> wouldn't be without my Mac now. No regrets switching on my >>>>>>>>> part! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> With best wishes, Simon >>>>>>>>> On 7 Jul 2009, at 16:44, James & Nash wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I hear what you're saying Simon. To Apple's credit, they have >>>>>>>>>> always >>>>>>>>>> acknowledged my messages and have offered support where they >>>>>>>>>> can. I >>>>>>>>>> still >>>>>>>>>> like and would continue to use Windows for things but I do >>>>>>>>>> miss >>>>>>>>>> Mac. >>>>>>>>>> That's >>>>>>>>>> why I'm going to purchase a new one. >>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>>> From: "Simon Cavendish" <simon.cavend...@googlemail.com> >>>>>>>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 4:34 PM >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I have been e-mailing Apple accessibility regarding >>>>>>>>>>> providing a >>>>>>>>>>> broader support in refreshable Braille for other languages. I >>>>>>>>>>> do >>>>>>>>>>> hope >>>>>>>>>>> Snow Leopard is going to bring this aspect to those of us who >>>>>>>>>>> would >>>>>>>>>>> benefit from it. It would certainly accelerate my leaving >>>>>>>>>>> Windows >>>>>>>>>>> behind altogether. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> With best wishes >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Simon >>>>>>>>>>> On 7 Jul 2009, at 11:50, James & Nash wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Well on the Snow Leopard page there is a host of different >>>>>>>>>>>> features. >>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, I >>>>>>>>>>>> think I remember reading that something - it may have been >>>>>>>>>>>> Voice >>>>>>>>>>>> Over - was >>>>>>>>>>>> localized in about 40 different languages. But I'm not sure >>>>>>>>>>>> about >>>>>>>>>>>> Braille >>>>>>>>>>>> support. However, if you can some way implement BRLTTY or >>>>>>>>>>>> ask >>>>>>>>>>>> Apple >>>>>>>>>>>> to do so >>>>>>>>>>>> we may get native foreign language Braille support. I think >>>>>>>>>>>> Apple >>>>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>>>> Linux >>>>>>>>>>>> based, so this should not be too difficult. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Take care >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> James >>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>>>>> From: "william lomas" <lomaswill...@googlemail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 11:39 AM >>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> is there a complete list of new features? i.e. >>>>>>>>>>>> .do we get new language voices i wonder >>>>>>>>>>>> . new braille support in other alnguages? >>>>>>>>>>>> etc >>>>>>>>>>>> i guess we will not know these details really until the >>>>>>>>>>>> product >>>>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>>>> out >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 7 Jul 2009, at 11:29, James & Nash wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> It sounds like Snow Leopard is an upgrade. Is this the >>>>>>>>>>>>> case? >>>>>>>>>>>>> Fortunately, I >>>>>>>>>>>>> have a copy of 10.5 which I bought last year so if so then >>>>>>>>>>>>> there >>>>>>>>>>>>> shouldn't >>>>>>>>>>>>> be any problem. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Take care >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> James >>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Scott Howell" <s.how...@verizon.net> >>>>>>>>>>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 10:25 AM >>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe so, but it will be worth upgrading and the cost is >>>>>>>>>>>>>> so >>>>>>>>>>>>>> unreal, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't make much since to skip this upgrade. There are >>>>>>>>>>>>>> other >>>>>>>>>>>>>> reasons >>>>>>>>>>>>>> beyond accessibility to upgrade. I can guarantee you that >>>>>>>>>>>>>> $30 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> is a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> very small price to pay for the improvements and many of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> which >>>>>>>>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>>>>>>>> may >>>>>>>>>>>>>> not have considered or realized. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 7, 2009, at 2:47 AM, william lomas wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i doubt we get new voices except maybe the ones found in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the i >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> phone. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am going to wait to upgrade i think, what I have now >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> works >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fine. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> UPgrading won't give us for example, access to flash >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> content >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> point in me upgrading since a lot of sites I use, require >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> flash >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> navigation which adobe have not yet incorporated into the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> safari or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other web browsers >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7 Jul 2009, at 02:53, Jenny Kennedy wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yay! I'm very very glad to hear this wonderful news. A >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> little >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bummed I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't have a fancy trackpad. I have heard some of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> iPhone >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> demos >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gestures just sound so cool and fun. I guess I'll just >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> put >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> old tech. LOL I hope to get an iPhone in the future and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> happy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to wait 'til then to try gestures. Unless my getting a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> macbook >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> happens first. But as this one is still fairly newish >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wait. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Who >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know by the time it comes time for me to get a new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> macbook >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they'll of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> come up with many more new and cool things. : smiley : >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can't wait 'til SL comes out. I know it's not too far >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> off >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sounds so awesome. Am keen to hear any new voices. Have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> always >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> liked >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the UK voices. The best thing would be a UK version of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alex, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> breths and all. I still think that's uber cool how Alex >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> voice >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jenny >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/09, Scott Howell <s.how...@verizon.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jenny, first only the Aluminum MacBooks contain the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> multi- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> touch >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trackpad unless Apple upgrades the MacBook line- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Remember >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aluminum >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> models are now referred to as the MacBook Pro line. Yes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SL >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> work >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fine on your model. The most significant requirement is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> must >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Intel processor since the Power PC chips, such as found >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> G4/G5 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> machines will not be supported by SL. I'd recommend you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> least >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2Gb ram, but 1Gb will get the job done. The commands, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> issued >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the trackpad are the same commands you can issue >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> currently >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> VO. It is another means to interact with the os using >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> VO >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hard to say what the future holds for such a trackpad >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> VO. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> point is that if you have heard the iPhone demos, you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> idea >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of how the trackpad could behave and a little >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> imagination >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> might >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lead >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you to speculate what Apple could possibly do in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> future. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, have no fear and prepare to upgrade, it will be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> well >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> worth >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 6, 2009, at 7:59 PM, Jenny Kennedy wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Okay. So am I to understand that the macbook pro >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> line is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> line >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that has this fancy mousepad thing? I got my macbook >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> April >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of 08 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and it is the little white one. I adore it and have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> waiting >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SL to come out. Will SL even work at all on this sort >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> macbook? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure the os will work but will VO function if I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fancy mousepad thing? Are there keyboard shortcuts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to do >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whatever >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doable with the mousepad? Sorry to be so abrupt gotta >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> run. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any answers >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> best wishes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jenny >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/09, Claude Renaud <cldren...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello James, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sunday, July 5, 2009, 12:31:19 PM, you wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JN> Hi everyone, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JN> I've been reading the new VO features in Snow >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Leopard. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where di you read this please ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Claude Renaud >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>>> >> >> >> > > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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