Re: Some poll about elyxer (was: Integration of eLyXer to LyX)

2009-05-02 Thread Kornel Benko
Am Samstag 02 Mai 2009 schrieb Alex Fernandez: > Hi again, > > On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 9:22 PM, Kornel Benko wrote: > > I meant something like: I (elyxer) understand lyx-formats up to 329. > > Our actual format in trunk is 354, while lyx 1.6.3 writes format 345. > > > > So it _is_ important to know

Problem Indonesian spell checker

2009-05-02 Thread Waluyo Adi Siswanto
I use 1.6.3svn (id UI menu) in Ubuntu 8.10 The preference settings and document setting have been set in Indonesian language. I was going to try using Indonesian Spell Checker but it did not work and a message appeared "Error: The file "/usr/lib/aspell/bahasa" can not be opened for reading." I c

Re: Some poll about elyxer

2009-05-02 Thread Alex Fernandez
On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 12:32 AM, rgheck wrote: >> This would become even easier if LyX would install lyx2lyx as a normal >> Python package. > > It might be worth requesting this explicitly as an enhancement. Surely it > can't be that hard. Done: http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/5934 Alex

Re: HTML Output for LyX: RFC

2009-05-02 Thread rgheck
cmira...@kde-france.org wrote: rgheck wrote: There are more and less complicated ways to do this. You could have a new format, like DocBook, but I think what's really wanted is something that would work more like plaintext, so that you can output any document as HTML. So we'd have a set of a

Re: Some poll about elyxer

2009-05-02 Thread rgheck
Alex Fernandez wrote: Hi Guenter, On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 11:10 PM, Guenter Milde wrote: It should be mentioned that (AFAIK), lyx2lyx works (and can be installed) independent of LyX. At least I could successfully use a lyx2lyx from trunk to import "1.6" documents with 1.5.4. Hmmm, th

Re: Some poll about elyxer

2009-05-02 Thread rgheck
Guenter Milde wrote: This would become even easier if LyX would install lyx2lyx as a normal Python package. It might be worth requesting this explicitly as an enhancement. Surely it can't be that hard. It should be mentioned that (AFAIK), lyx2lyx works (and can be installed) independent o

Re: Some poll about elyxer

2009-05-02 Thread rgheck
Pavel Sanda wrote: Richard Heck wrote: Set up formats for each one. hehehe i see it will be bit hard to get some agreement here since thats complentary draft to Juergens... :) Yes, I know. But I think J"urgen meant more "why do this one special?" whereas I mean: We should do them

Re: HTML Output for LyX: RFC

2009-05-02 Thread cmiramon
rgheck wrote: > There are more and less complicated ways to do this. You could have a > new format, like DocBook, but I think what's really wanted is something > that would work more like plaintext, so that you can output any document > as HTML. So we'd have a set of ashtml() routines in the inset

Re: Some poll about elyxer

2009-05-02 Thread Alex Fernandez
Hi Guenter, On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 11:10 PM, Guenter Milde wrote: > It should be mentioned that (AFAIK), lyx2lyx works (and can be > installed) independent of LyX. At least I could successfully use a > lyx2lyx from trunk to import "1.6" documents with 1.5.4. Hmmm, that is interesting. It certain

Re: Some poll about elyxer

2009-05-02 Thread Guenter Milde
On 2009-05-02, rgheck wrote: > Kornel Benko wrote: >> Am Samstag 02 Mai 2009 schrieb rgheck: >>> Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > That said, solving this problem is basically trivial. eLyXer need do > nothing more than call lyx2lyx on the input file with the right > arguments to get the format it wan

Re: Some poll about elyxer (was: Integration of eLyXer to LyX)

2009-05-02 Thread Alex Fernandez
Hi again, On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 9:22 PM, Kornel Benko wrote: > I meant something like: I (elyxer) understand lyx-formats up to 329. > Our actual format in trunk is 354, while lyx 1.6.3 writes format 345. > > So it _is_ important to know, what elyxer supports. Seen this way it is. What I meant w

Re: Some poll about elyxer

2009-05-02 Thread Pavel Sanda
Abdelrazak Younes wrote: >> No one raised size as an issue. Maintainability, comprehensiveness, etc, >> were the issues. > > As long as LyX doesn't depend on eLyXer I don't see any problem. We also > have scons and cmake in that situation don't we? not that we should aim at maintainig three diff

Re: Some poll about elyxer

2009-05-02 Thread Pavel Sanda
Richard Heck wrote: > Set up formats for each one. hehehe i see it will be bit hard to get some agreement here since thats complentary draft to Juergens... :) pavel

Re: Some poll about elyxer

2009-05-02 Thread rgheck
Pavel Sanda wrote: Richard Heck wrote: I'm not proposing we list each one separately, but find some way to detect them all and then configure things appropriately. i dont understand this proposal. we detect them all. then what? Set up formats for each one. So you'd have html1, whic

Re: Some poll about elyxer

2009-05-02 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
On 02/05/2009 01:30, Alex Fernandez wrote: First, this discussion (and the many threads around it) are causing unnecessary division among LyX developers. Don't worry about that. LyX developers have a pretty thick skin :-) People are suffering unnecessary pain because of this. And this becau

Re: HTML Output for LyX: RFC

2009-05-02 Thread rgheck
Pavel Sanda wrote: Richard Heck wrote: Kornel Benko wrote: Am Samstag 02 Mai 2009 schrieb Edwin Leuven: richard wrote: Comments, as said, welcome. why not rather work on XML? I am also all for it. But I fear, this is not near fu

Re: Some poll about elyxer

2009-05-02 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
On 01/05/2009 21:06, rgheck wrote: Abdelrazak Younes wrote: I vote for full inclusion for three reasons: 1) the social aspect: Alex looks like a nice and proactive guy. He _is_ a nice recrue, no doubt about that. We are not being very inviting with all this fuss about inclusion or not. How

Re: Some poll about elyxer (was: Integration of eLyXer to LyX)

2009-05-02 Thread Pavel Sanda
Richard Heck wrote: > I'm not proposing we list each one separately, but find some way to detect > them all and then configure things appropriately. i dont understand this proposal. we detect them all. then what? pavel

Re: Qt 4.5 christmas

2009-05-02 Thread Pavel Sanda
Uwe Stöhr wrote: > > nothing like that. in our sources there are many parts for newer > > versions of qt then the version we promised to support. feel free > > to remove it from wiki if you are nervous about it. > > I'm not nervous but our users will complain, at least Windows users who > then thi

Re: Integration of eLyXer to LyX

2009-05-02 Thread rgheck
Alex Fernandez wrote: As to the relicensing, that is fine with me. Just let me know when you need it. Just do it at your leisure, though maybe by the end of the month would be good. It won't become an issue for a little while still. rh

Re: Some poll about elyxer (was: Integration of eLyXer to LyX)

2009-05-02 Thread rgheck
Pavel Sanda wrote: Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: Pavel Sanda wrote: As said, I do not understand why eLyXer should be separated from that paradigma. i tried to explain - difference in technology and target too (mainly based what can (not) be read from latex output). Yes, bu

Re: Qt 4.5 christmas

2009-05-02 Thread Uwe Stöhr
> nothing like that. in our sources there are many parts for newer > versions of qt then the version we promised to support. feel free > to remove it from wiki if you are nervous about it. I'm not nervous but our users will complain, at least Windows users who then think they need to reinstall L

Re: Some poll about elyxer (was: Integration of eLyXer to LyX)

2009-05-02 Thread Kornel Benko
Am Samstag 02 Mai 2009 schrieb Alex Fernandez: > Hi Kornel, > > On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 4:52 PM, Kornel Benko wrote: > > Yes, we should. It is yet not possible for autoconfigure to determine > > which format elyxer supports. > > > > Maybe some elyxer-parameter, like --print-format. Alex? > > No nee

Re: A mistake in Tutorial

2009-05-02 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Waluyo Adi Siswanto schrieb: Yes .. That's why I am suggesting to replace what is incorrectly written in the Tutorial, with the correct one, i.e. Edit > Rows&Columns Stupid me. I have corrected this now. thanks and regards Uwe

Re: Qt 4.5 christmas

2009-05-02 Thread Pavel Sanda
Uwe Stöhr wrote: > > That's why it's only christmas for Qt 4.5. > >Therefore we are forced to use Qt 4.5 for branch when building the > Win and Mac installers. nothing like that. in our sources there are many parts for newer versions of qt then the version we promised to support. feel free to rem

Re: Qt 4.5 christmas

2009-05-02 Thread Uwe Stöhr
> That's why it's only christmas for Qt 4.5. I know but that's the problem. It is announced as new feature for LyX 1.6.3. Therefore we are forced to use Qt 4.5 for branch when building the Win and Mac installers. But I'm not sure if this is safe since Qt 4.5.0 introduced a lot of regressions an

Re: HTML Output for LyX: RFC

2009-05-02 Thread Pavel Sanda
Richard Heck wrote: > Kornel Benko wrote: >> Am Samstag 02 Mai 2009 schrieb Edwin Leuven: >> >>> richard wrote: >>> Comments, as said, welcome. >>> why not rather work on XML? >>> >> >> I am also all for it. But I fear, this is not near future. Therefore it is >> bett

Re: Some poll about elyxer (was: Integration of eLyXer to LyX)

2009-05-02 Thread Alex Fernandez
Hi Kornel, On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 4:52 PM, Kornel Benko wrote: > Yes, we should. It is yet not possible for autoconfigure to determine which > format elyxer supports. > > Maybe some elyxer-parameter, like --print-format. Alex? No need to. eLyXer, being in the more-or-less-unique position of cons

Re: Integration of eLyXer to LyX

2009-05-02 Thread Alex Fernandez
Hi Richard, On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 5:27 PM, rgheck wrote: > And then, of course, there's the fact that you've already done so much of > the hard work. My intention, if it's OK with you, is pretty much to borrow > from what you've already done, at least as far as the format of the HTML > output is

Re: Some poll about elyxer (was: Integration of eLyXer to LyX)

2009-05-02 Thread Pavel Sanda
Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > Pavel Sanda wrote: > > >As said, I do not understand why eLyXer should be separated from that > > > paradigma. > > > > i tried to explain - difference in technology and target too (mainly based > > what can (not) be read from latex output). > > Yes, but I'm not convince

Re: Some poll about elyxer (was: Integration of eLyXer to LyX)

2009-05-02 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Pavel Sanda wrote: > >As said, I do not understand why eLyXer should be separated from that > > paradigma. > > i tried to explain - difference in technology and target too (mainly based > what can (not) be read from latex output). Yes, but I'm not convinced by this at all. tex4ht is at least as fa

Re: r29444 - lyx-devel/trunk/src/support

2009-05-02 Thread Enrico Forestieri
On Sat, May 02, 2009 at 06:35:11PM +0200, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > Enrico Forestieri wrote: > > I also prefer that (because no disk access is performed if it is not > > really necessary) and did not apply it for the previously stated reasons. > > However, I think that if a problem shows up, it

Re: A mistake in Tutorial

2009-05-02 Thread Waluyo Adi Siswanto
On Sat, 2009-05-02 at 19:18 +0200, Uwe Stöhr wrote: > Waluyo Adi Siswanto schrieb: > > > In 4.4.5 Matrices, Paragraph 3: > > > > I am suggesting: > > Edit > Rows&Columns > > to replace > > Edit > Math > Rows&columns > > There is no menu Edit > Math > Rows&columns. Edit > Rows&Columns is correct

Re: A mistake in Tutorial

2009-05-02 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Waluyo Adi Siswanto schrieb: In 4.4.5 Matrices, Paragraph 3: I am suggesting: Edit > Rows&Columns to replace Edit > Math > Rows&columns There is no menu Edit > Math > Rows&columns. Edit > Rows&Columns is correct, this menu can be used for matrices and tables as well. regards Uwe

Re: Some poll about elyxer (was: Integration of eLyXer to LyX)

2009-05-02 Thread Pavel Sanda
Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > Uwe Stöhr wrote: > > Thanks for changing this. But shouldn't we now give the html format the > > name "HTML (tex4ht)" to tell the users what program they are using, like we > > do for PDF? > > It's not necessarily tex4ht. It can also be latex2html or hevea. yes, i use

Re: Qt 4.5 christmas

2009-05-02 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Uwe Stöhr wrote: > I just recompiled branch and still see there the old behavior: only one > close button besides the tabs. I'm using Qt 4.4.2 for branch. > > In trunk, where I use Qt 4.5.1 it works as it should. That's why it's only christmas for Qt 4.5. Jürgen

Re: r29444 - lyx-devel/trunk/src/support

2009-05-02 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Enrico Forestieri wrote: > I also prefer that (because no disk access is performed if it is not > really necessary) and did not apply it for the previously stated reasons. > However, I think that if a problem shows up, it can be worked out. > So I am going to revert my previous commit and apply Geo

Re: HTML Output for LyX: RFC

2009-05-02 Thread rgheck
Kornel Benko wrote: Am Samstag 02 Mai 2009 schrieb Edwin Leuven: richard wrote: Comments, as said, welcome. why not rather work on XML? I am also all for it. But I fear, this is not near future. Therefore it is better to create html output, readable by all colleagues not

Re: Some poll about elyxer

2009-05-02 Thread Kornel Benko
Am Samstag 02 Mai 2009 schrieb rgheck: > >   > > Well, the other thing no-one mentioned, which does matter, is that we'd > like the tools we distribute to work not just with the formats of the > major releases but also with intermediate ones. Well, ok... > That said, solving this problem is basic

Re: HTML Output for LyX: RFC

2009-05-02 Thread Kornel Benko
Am Samstag 02 Mai 2009 schrieb Edwin Leuven: > richard wrote: > > Comments, as said, welcome. > > why not rather work on XML? I am also all for it. But I fear, this is not near future. Therefore it is better to create html output, readable by all colleagues not having lyx :) > edwin Kor

RE: HTML Output for LyX: RFC

2009-05-02 Thread Edwin Leuven
richard wrote: > Comments, as said, welcome. why not rather work on XML? edwin

Re: Qt 4.5 christmas

2009-05-02 Thread Uwe Stöhr
> Anyway, you should remove the close button that reside in the far right of > the tabbar. > > i can do that if you feel it better. I just recompiled branch and still see there the old behavior: only one close button besides the tabs. I'm using Qt 4.4.2 for branch. In trunk, where I use Qt 4.5

Re: r29444 - lyx-devel/trunk/src/support

2009-05-02 Thread Enrico Forestieri
On Sat, May 02, 2009 at 05:51:58PM +0200, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > Enrico Forestieri wrote: > > > If you know/think/believe that the problem is only with Webdav, then it > > > is not a real problem. > > > > So, Jürgen, what we shall do? > > As already announced. As long as Georg's patch does n

Re: r29444 - lyx-devel/trunk/src/support

2009-05-02 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Enrico Forestieri wrote: > > If you know/think/believe that the problem is only with Webdav, then it > > is not a real problem. > > So, Jürgen, what we shall do? As already announced. As long as Georg's patch does not show any problems, I'd go for that. Jürgen

Re: r29444 - lyx-devel/trunk/src/support

2009-05-02 Thread Enrico Forestieri
On Sat, May 02, 2009 at 04:57:30PM +0200, Vincent van Ravesteijn wrote: > > >> It's the only way I could test the performance from here. I open a > >> master document located at 'http://...' which includes child documents. > >> > > > > Try the test files attached here: > > http://thread.gman

Re: Some poll about elyxer (was: Integration of eLyXer to LyX)

2009-05-02 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Uwe Stöhr wrote: > Thanks for changing this. But shouldn't we now give the html format the > name "HTML (tex4ht)" to tell the users what program they are using, like we > do for PDF? It's not necessarily tex4ht. It can also be latex2html or hevea. As said, I do not understand why eLyXer should be

Re: Some poll about elyxer (was: Integration of eLyXer to LyX)

2009-05-02 Thread rgheck
Uwe Stöhr wrote: > i understand the problem. my problem is - are you really sure running > src/elyxer.py is the same as running ./elyxer? No, both are different but Alex will re-add the file extension to the latter and rename the one in src/ now. > elyxhtml is not to be seen anywhere in the m

Re: Some poll about elyxer (was: Integration of eLyXer to LyX)

2009-05-02 Thread Uwe Stöhr
> i understand the problem. my problem is - are you really sure running > src/elyxer.py is the same as running ./elyxer? No, both are different but Alex will re-add the file extension to the latter and rename the one in src/ now. > elyxhtml is not to be seen anywhere in the menu, but as i said

Re: Some poll about elyxer

2009-05-02 Thread rgheck
Kornel Benko wrote: Am Samstag 02 Mai 2009 schrieb rgheck: Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: It's not LyX's task to deliver the correct format to eLyXer. This is eLyXers duty. +1. Now I am outnumbered. But only partly convinced :) Well, the other thing no-one mentioned, which

HTML Output for LyX: RFC

2009-05-02 Thread rgheck
So I'm going to try to do this. Here's an outline for discussion before I start. When I start, I don't know. Maybe bits and pieces soon. There are more and less complicated ways to do this. You could have a new format, like DocBook, but I think what's really wanted is something that would wo

Re: Some poll about elyxer

2009-05-02 Thread Kornel Benko
Am Samstag 02 Mai 2009 schrieb rgheck: > Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > > It's not LyX's task to deliver the correct format to eLyXer. This is > > eLyXers duty. > > +1. Now I am outnumbered. But only partly convinced :) > rh Kornel signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed mes

Re: Some poll about elyxer (was: Integration of eLyXer to LyX)

2009-05-02 Thread Kornel Benko
Am Samstag 02 Mai 2009 schrieb Jürgen Spitzmüller: > Kornel Benko wrote: > > > Still, LyX's autoconfigure should work with any version of a program, > > > if possible. > > > > Yes, we should. It is yet not possible for autoconfigure to determine > > which format elyxer supports. > > Only eLyXer kno

Re: Indexes or Indices ?

2009-05-02 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
rgheck wrote: > Both are in my dictionaries. I think "indexes" will definitely be less > confusing to non-native speakers, some of whom probably use LyX in > English. So I'll agree with Bennett. Well, if two philosophers agree ... I'll change it (only the UI strings, though). Jürgen

Re: Integration of eLyXer to LyX

2009-05-02 Thread rgheck
Alex Fernandez wrote: Said in this way it may look a bit harsh. The reality is that, even though it would be great, I don't think the project of producing native HTML output is viable. Not in a "haha you will never catch me" way, but rather in a "it will get _very_ boring before it is useful" fas

Re: Some poll about elyxer (was: Integration of eLyXer to LyX)

2009-05-02 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Kornel Benko wrote: > > Still, LyX's autoconfigure should work with any version of a program, if > > possible. > > Yes, we should. It is yet not possible for autoconfigure to determine which > format elyxer supports. Only eLyXer knows. And it should issue lyx2lyx in order to get that specific for

Re: Integration of eLyXer to LyX

2009-05-02 Thread rgheck
Pavel Sanda wrote: Alex Fernandez wrote: and only after his exams were finished. Not a very solid promise, if I have to judge by my own University years :P i warn you, Richard is some day beyond _his_ exams :) Yes, true. For the linguistically inclined, this is actually a nice ex

Re: Indexes or Indices ?

2009-05-02 Thread rgheck
Vincent van Ravesteijn wrote: BH schreef: On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 3:07 AM, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: Vincent van Ravesteijn wrote: We have a "List of Indexes" in the ToC, but in the Document Settings we speak of "Indices". Which one will it be ? I'm no native speaker. I always

Re: Some poll about elyxer

2009-05-02 Thread rgheck
Pavel Sanda wrote: Alex Fernandez wrote: First, this discussion (and the many threads around it) are causing unnecessary division among LyX developers. People are suffering unnecessary pain because of this. And this because everyone is trying .. If the LyX community still wants to i

Re: r29444 - lyx-devel/trunk/src/support

2009-05-02 Thread rgheck
Vincent van Ravesteijn wrote: Jürgen Spitzmüller schreef: Vincent van Ravesteijn wrote: And what about the patch from Georg ? That patch sort of solved the problem too. This patch was less intrusive and I already tested that. If it was upto me, I would revert this commit and commit Georg's p

Re: Some poll about elyxer

2009-05-02 Thread rgheck
Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: It's not LyX's task to deliver the correct format to eLyXer. This is eLyXers duty. +1. rh

Re: Some poll about elyxer (was: Integration of eLyXer to LyX)

2009-05-02 Thread Kornel Benko
Am Samstag 02 Mai 2009 schrieb Jürgen Spitzmüller: > Kornel Benko wrote: > > > > Well, this is certainly the case for many other alternative programs > > > > as well. > > > > > > my feeling was that this is somewhat on the level of pdf/1/2/3 though. > > I'd rather see it on the level of latex2html/

Re: r29444 - lyx-devel/trunk/src/support

2009-05-02 Thread Vincent van Ravesteijn
It's the only way I could test the performance from here. I open a master document located at 'http://...' which includes child documents. Try the test files attached here: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.editors.lyx.devel/116276/focus=116277 I get very slow behavior with those, without inv

Re: r29444 - lyx-devel/trunk/src/support

2009-05-02 Thread Enrico Forestieri
On Sat, May 02, 2009 at 04:39:17PM +0200, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > Vincent van Ravesteijn wrote: > > > If you think that Georg's patch is better, this is fine with me (I myself > > > would have applied it, if it had been simple to give an answer to the > > > problems it may have rised). So, rev

Re: Some poll about elyxer (was: Integration of eLyXer to LyX)

2009-05-02 Thread Kornel Benko
Am Samstag 02 Mai 2009 schrieb Jürgen Spitzmüller: > Kornel Benko wrote: > > I learned today, tha elyxer supports lyx1.6. It was not soo difficult to > > change my preferences to reflect this upgrade. > > > > And we do not change the format too often for the public. > > Still, LyX's autoconfigure s

Re: r29476 - in lyx-devel/trunk: . development/cmake/src/support development/cmake/src/tex2lyx development/scons src src/client src/support src/tex2lyx

2009-05-02 Thread Enrico Forestieri
On Sat, May 02, 2009 at 09:14:43AM +0200, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > Enrico Forestieri wrote: > > OK for branch? > > If you're confident it doesn't need more testing: fine with me. > (this code does not interfere outside of DVI serach, right?) I extensively tested it (not with webdav, sorry, bu

Re: Some poll about elyxer (was: Integration of eLyXer to LyX)

2009-05-02 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Kornel Benko wrote: > > > Well, this is certainly the case for many other alternative programs as > > > well. > > > > my feeling was that this is somewhat on the level of pdf/1/2/3 though. I'd rather see it on the level of latex2html/tex4ht. pdf1/2/3 involves specific file conversion handling and

Re: Some poll about elyxer (was: Integration of eLyXer to LyX)

2009-05-02 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Kornel Benko wrote: > I learned today, tha elyxer supports lyx1.6. It was not soo difficult to > change my preferences to reflect this upgrade. > > And we do not change the format too often for the public. Still, LyX's autoconfigure should work with any version of a program, if possible. It's no

Re: r29444 - lyx-devel/trunk/src/support

2009-05-02 Thread Enrico Forestieri
On Sat, May 02, 2009 at 04:17:37PM +0200, Vincent van Ravesteijn wrote: > > > I've never used webdav, but according to wikipedia there are serious > > bugs with it. Maybe Qt uses some workaround for bypassing the bugs. > > If I understand correctly, using webdav you can open a file using > > a url

Re: r29444 - lyx-devel/trunk/src/support

2009-05-02 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Vincent van Ravesteijn wrote: > > If you think that Georg's patch is better, this is fine with me (I myself > > would have applied it, if it had been simple to give an answer to the > > problems it may have rised). So, revert this commit and apply that one. > > > > I don't want to be the one maki

Re: Some poll about elyxer (was: Integration of eLyXer to LyX)

2009-05-02 Thread Kornel Benko
Am Samstag 02 Mai 2009 schrieb Jürgen Spitzmüller: > Kornel Benko wrote: > > There were no need for elyxer to be aware of lyx2lyx. I for one am using > > it this way since some weeks. > > However, this would mean that the eLyXer format needed to be frozen. I learned today, tha elyxer supports lyx1

Re: Some poll about elyxer (was: Integration of eLyXer to LyX)

2009-05-02 Thread Kornel Benko
Am Samstag 02 Mai 2009 schrieb Pavel Sanda: > Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > > Pavel Sanda wrote: > > > it makes sense to have both export possibilities - the > > > standard via-latex-tools preserves much better the math, structure with > > > contents etc, on the other way lyxer has more attractive vi

Re: r29444 - lyx-devel/trunk/src/support

2009-05-02 Thread Enrico Forestieri
On Sat, May 02, 2009 at 03:08:46PM +0200, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > Vincent van Ravesteijn wrote: > > I believe this was the patch. > > Looks less intrusive indeed. > > Enrico? I am all for it, as I explained in the other email. Have a look at this thread, where the stated concerns were raise

Re: r29444 - lyx-devel/trunk/src/support

2009-05-02 Thread Vincent van Ravesteijn
I've never used webdav, but according to wikipedia there are serious bugs with it. Maybe Qt uses some workaround for bypassing the bugs. If I understand correctly, using webdav you can open a file using a url syntax such as http://..., which is not exactly the right way for dealing with child do

Re: Some poll about elyxer (was: Integration of eLyXer to LyX)

2009-05-02 Thread Pavel Sanda
Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > Pavel Sanda wrote: > > it makes sense to have both export possibilities - the > > standard via-latex-tools preserves much better the math, structure with > > contents etc, on the other way lyxer has more attractive visual appearance. > > so for different documents you wo

Re: r29444 - lyx-devel/trunk/src/support

2009-05-02 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Enrico Forestieri wrote: > > I do not understand this sentence. > > What I meant to say is that despite the speed I can type in, the > characters appear immediately on screen. I see. Jürgen

Re: Some poll about elyxer (was: Integration of eLyXer to LyX)

2009-05-02 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Pavel Sanda wrote: > it makes sense to have both export possibilities - the > standard via-latex-tools preserves much better the math, structure with > contents etc, on the other way lyxer has more attractive visual appearance. > so for different documents you would use different output. Well, thi

Re: r29444 - lyx-devel/trunk/src/support

2009-05-02 Thread Enrico Forestieri
On Sat, May 02, 2009 at 09:38:38AM +0200, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > Enrico Forestieri wrote: > > > With this patch I am not able to type ahead, neither on Windows nor on > > Solaris. > > I do not understand this sentence. What I meant to say is that despite the speed I can type in, the chara

Re: r29444 - lyx-devel/trunk/src/support

2009-05-02 Thread Enrico Forestieri
On Sat, May 02, 2009 at 12:07:49PM +0200, Vincent van Ravesteijn wrote: > There are serious problems with this commit. > > If I open a document (using webdav) that has a child document, I can't > open the child document. Moreover, opening the child manually will give > me a warning that it alre

Re: Some poll about elyxer (was: Integration of eLyXer to LyX)

2009-05-02 Thread Pavel Sanda
Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > * checkViewer should go to checkFormatsEntries method, not > checkConvertersEntries(). but i wanted this to be function to be called only if checkProg('eLyXer converter'... proceed. (it shouldn't be displayed when user have no interest in lyxer). so the position is co

Re: r29491 - lyx-devel/trunk/src/frontends/qt4

2009-05-02 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Pavel Sanda wrote: > Juergen? No objections. Jürgen

Re: r29444 - lyx-devel/trunk/src/support

2009-05-02 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Vincent van Ravesteijn wrote: > I believe this was the patch. Looks less intrusive indeed. Enrico? Jürgen

Re: Some poll about elyxer (was: Integration of eLyXer to LyX)

2009-05-02 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Pavel Sanda wrote: > > * recognize eLyXer as a HTML converter (already done, AFAICS) > > do you agree to backport this into branch? principally yes, but the change has some flaws: * checkViewer should go to checkFormatsEntries method, not checkConvertersEntries(). * the program call syntax ques

Re: Minor changes to memior.layout

2009-05-02 Thread BH
On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 3:59 AM, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > BH wrote: >> Could someone please check and apply? > > I did that (minus the mac.bind part in the trunk patch). Oops. That's what I get for checking only the branch patch. Sorry ... and thanks. Bennett

Re: r29444 - lyx-devel/trunk/src/support

2009-05-02 Thread Vincent van Ravesteijn
Jürgen Spitzmüller schreef: Vincent van Ravesteijn wrote: And what about the patch from Georg ? That patch sort of solved the problem too. This patch was less intrusive and I already tested that. If it was upto me, I would revert this commit and commit Georg's patch. Do you have a poi

Re: r29444 - lyx-devel/trunk/src/support

2009-05-02 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Vincent van Ravesteijn wrote: > And what about the patch from Georg ? That patch sort of solved the > problem too. This patch was less intrusive and I already tested that. > > If it was upto me, I would revert this commit and commit Georg's patch. Do you have a pointer to this patch at hand? Jürg

Re: r29491 - lyx-devel/trunk/src/frontends/qt4

2009-05-02 Thread Pavel Sanda
sa...@lyx.org wrote: > Author: sanda > Date: Sat May 2 14:43:42 2009 > New Revision: 29491 > URL: http://www.lyx.org/trac/changeset/29491 > > Log: > Use Qt native close button on tabbar. > Fixes http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/3724 sa...@lyx.org wrote: > Author: sanda > Date: Sat May 2 14:43:45

Re: Some poll about elyxer (was: Integration of eLyXer to LyX)

2009-05-02 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Kornel Benko wrote: > There were no need for elyxer to be aware of lyx2lyx. I for one am using it > this way since some weeks. However, this would mean that the eLyXer format needed to be frozen. Jürgen

Re: Qt 4.5 christmas

2009-05-02 Thread Pavel Sanda
Vincent van Ravesteijn wrote: > Anyway, you should remove the close button that reside in the far right of > the tabbar. i can do that if you feel it better. pavel

Re: Qt 4.5 christmas

2009-05-02 Thread Vincent van Ravesteijn
Pavel Sanda schreef: Vincent van Ravesteijn wrote: Pavel Sanda schreef: any comments before commit? pavel Do you have some accompanying info ? screenshot is not enough ? :) pavel Well, you could have spend a few words.. Anyway, you should remove the close button t

Re: Qt 4.5 christmas

2009-05-02 Thread Pavel Sanda
Vincent van Ravesteijn wrote: > Pavel Sanda schreef: >> any comments before commit? >> pavel >> > Do you have some accompanying info ? screenshot is not enough ? :) pavel

Re: Some poll about elyxer (was: Integration of eLyXer to LyX)

2009-05-02 Thread Kornel Benko
Am Samstag 02 Mai 2009 schrieb Pavel Sanda: > Kornel Benko wrote: > > > The problem is that I have to give it a file extension to make Python > > > recognize it. When I do this also the problem I had with missing > > > includes disappears. > > > > You mean, calling python is not sufficient? > > it

Re: Qt 4.5 christmas

2009-05-02 Thread Vincent van Ravesteijn
Pavel Sanda schreef: any comments before commit? pavel Do you have some accompanying info ? Vincent

Qt 4.5 christmas

2009-05-02 Thread Pavel Sanda
any comments before commit? pavel diff --git a/src/frontends/qt4/GuiWorkArea.cpp b/src/frontends/qt4/GuiWorkArea.cpp index b0eb1e3..37c9db7 100644 --- a/src/frontends/qt4/GuiWorkArea.cpp +++ b/src/frontends/qt4/GuiWorkArea.cpp @@ -1334,6 +1334,10 @@ TabWorkArea::TabWorkArea(QWidget * parent)

Re: Integration of eLyXer to LyX

2009-05-02 Thread Pavel Sanda
Alex Fernandez wrote: > and only after > his exams were finished. Not a very solid promise, if I have to judge > by my own University years :P i warn you, Richard is some day beyond _his_ exams :) pavel

Re: Integration of eLyXer to LyX

2009-05-02 Thread Alex Fernandez
Hi Richard, On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 1:19 AM, rgheck wrote: >> Have you considered that Alex might help you with your HTML project since >> he knows HTML as well as you and might have more LyX-HTML experience due to >> his eLyXer. >> > Yes. I suggested we should work together. He refused. Said in

Re: Indexes or Indices ?

2009-05-02 Thread Vincent van Ravesteijn
BH schreef: On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 3:07 AM, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: Vincent van Ravesteijn wrote: We have a "List of Indexes" in the ToC, but in the Document Settings we speak of "Indices". Which one will it be ? I'm no native speaker. I always thought the more usual plural

Re: r29444 - lyx-devel/trunk/src/support

2009-05-02 Thread Vincent van Ravesteijn
Jürgen Spitzmüller schreef: Enrico Forestieri wrote: Jürgen, OK for branch? Without this patch it is a pain working with child documents. In some cases, when I have finished quickly typing 5 or 6 characters, only the first two have been shown on screen. Is this the slowness issue we h

Re: Some poll about elyxer

2009-05-02 Thread Pavel Sanda
Alex Fernandez wrote: > First, this discussion (and the many threads around it) are causing > unnecessary division among LyX developers. People are suffering > unnecessary pain because of this. And this because everyone is trying .. > If the LyX community still wants to integrate eLyXer and it caus

Re: Some poll about elyxer (was: Integration of eLyXer to LyX)

2009-05-02 Thread Pavel Sanda
Kornel Benko wrote: > > The problem is that I have to give it a file extension to make Python > > recognize it. When I do this also the problem I had with missing includes > > disappears. > > You mean, calling python is not sufficient? it is, but the question was different - is it possible to ru

Re: Some poll about elyxer (was: Integration of eLyXer to LyX)

2009-05-02 Thread Pavel Sanda
Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > What we should do: > > * recognize eLyXer as a HTML converter (already done, AFAICS) do you agree to backport this into branch? pavel

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