Re: ties/slurs crossing repeats ("open slurs")

Am 09.02.25 um 21:52 schrieb Knute Snortum: On Sun, Feb 9, 2025 at 5:30 AM Henning Hraban Ramm > wrote: If a tie or slur is crossing a \repeat volta, is there a better solution than using \laissezVibrer? I found that suggested in this old thread:

Re: ties/slurs crossing repeats ("open slurs")

On Sun, Feb 9, 2025 at 5:30 AM Henning Hraban Ramm wrote: > If a tie or slur is crossing a \repeat volta, is there a better solution > than using \laissezVibrer? > > I found that suggested in this old thread: > https://lilypond-user.gnu.narkive.com/wXFWvV5y/tie-at-end-of-first-repeat > > … but it

Re: Ties across voices; tried two methods

I just joined this group and have learned so much already. First time answering. Hope this is right (works for me anyway.) Butter Cream: for the first tie put the first b-flat in the same "voice." for the 2nd tie use \repeatTie. \repeat volta 2 { 4 8 ~ r8 << { bes4~ } \\ { s4 } >> |

RE: Ties across voices; tried two methods

Welcome! From: Butter Cream Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2024 4:29 PM To: Leo Correia de Verdier ; Mark Stephen Mrotek Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: Ties across voices; tried two methods Thank you! I will implement your suggestions. Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S20 FE 5G

Re: Ties across voices; tried two methods

Mrotek Cc: Butter Cream ; lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: Ties across voices; tried two methods Also: your tie needs to end in the same voice it started. \new Voice and the <<\\>> construct both create other voices. If you remove \new Voice = “melody” from your first attempt it will

Re: Ties across voices; tried two methods

Also: your tie needs to end in the same voice it started. \new Voice and the <<\\>> construct both create other voices. If you remove \new Voice = “melody” from your first attempt it will work, as the last note of the tie is then in the same voice as the first. > 25 jan. 2024 kl. 00:37 skrev M

RE: Ties across voices; tried two methods

Butter, Use \repeatTie See https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.22/Documentation/notation/long-repeats#normal-re peats Mark From: lilypond-user-bounces+carsonmark=ca.rr@gnu.org On Behalf Of Butter Cream Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2024 1:29 PM To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Ties acros

Re: Ties between voices

> Le 27 juil. 2022 à 10:41, Thomas Morley a écrit : > > Am Di., 26. Juli 2022 um 11:48 Uhr schrieb Thomas Morley > : >> >>> Am Sa., 23. Juli 2022 um 19:15 Uhr schrieb Jean Abou Samra >>> : >>> >>> >>> >>> Le 23/07/2022 à 12:49, Lukas-Fabian Moser a écrit : Hi Andrew,

Re: Ties between voices

On 2022-07-27 1:41 am, Thomas Morley wrote: I stumbled across a certain condition. In tie-column::add_tie there is (> (car (ly:grob-spanned-column-rank-interval tie-column)) (car (ly:grob-spanned-column-rank-interval tie-column))) How could this ever be true? L

Re: Ties between voices

Am Di., 26. Juli 2022 um 11:48 Uhr schrieb Thomas Morley : > > Am Sa., 23. Juli 2022 um 19:15 Uhr schrieb Jean Abou Samra > : > > > > > > > > Le 23/07/2022 à 12:49, Lukas-Fabian Moser a écrit : > > > > > > Hi Andrew, > > > > > > Am 23.07.22 um 03:49 schrieb Andrew Bernard: > > >> I know that we ca

Re: Ties between voices

Am Sa., 23. Juli 2022 um 19:15 Uhr schrieb Jean Abou Samra : > > > > Le 23/07/2022 à 12:49, Lukas-Fabian Moser a écrit : > > > > Hi Andrew, > > > > Am 23.07.22 um 03:49 schrieb Andrew Bernard: > >> I know that we can't natively make ties between notes in different > >> voices. I know that there was

Re: Ties between voices

Andrew, did you get a chance to try Lukas-Fabian's extension yet? Was it working for you or were there something wrong? -William On 7/23/22 18:03, Andrew Bernard wrote: Gosh. There's no 'smell'. In piano music that has polyphony it is very common, and indeed necessary  to tie across voices. Do

Re: Ties between voices

Gosh. There's no 'smell'. In piano music that has polyphony it is very common, and indeed necessary  to tie across voices. Dorico enables it with ease (and if it did not make sense, I can assure you Dorico which is heavily rule bound would not allow it). Lilypond cannot do it natively. This is

Re: Ties between voices

This is a good question, Stephan. I think it can be explained that when talking about keyboard music, even though there are abstract ideas of things like melody from playing one note after the previous, and other things such as chords, engraving techniques such as including many noteheads on on

Re: Ties between voices

Le 23/07/2022 à 19:14, Jean Abou Samra a écrit : to = #(define-music-function (ctx mus) (symbol? ly:music?)    (make-music 'ContextExclusiveMusic 'target ctx 'element mus)) P.S. With some parser fiddling (and at the cost of making \to a reserved identifier), it should be possible to give \to a

Re: Ties between voices

Hi all I'm neither a professional engraver nor composer. But I've already tried to copy scores for my own use. That's where I got in touch with many "creative" engraving situations. One might ask how one could engrave something a manual engraver did 100 years ago. And then we have this fantastic

Re: Ties between voices

Le 23/07/2022 à 12:49, Lukas-Fabian Moser a écrit : Hi Andrew, Am 23.07.22 um 03:49 schrieb Andrew Bernard: I know that we can't natively make ties between notes in different voices. I know that there was a Google Summer of Code task that could not be completed. A few weeks ago, I sent y

Re: Ties between voices

I second Kieren's sentiment, thanks for this extension Lukas-Fabian. I'll remember this extension if the need for it pops up! -William On 7/23/22 06:49, Lukas-Fabian Moser wrote: Hi Andrew, Am 23.07.22 um 03:49 schrieb Andrew Bernard: I know that we can't natively make ties between notes in d

Re: Ties between voices

Hi Lukas! As someone who writes/engraves a LOT of keyboard music: THANK YOU!! Excited that there might even be a Slur version in the [near] future. Best, Kieren.

Re: Ties between voices

Hi Andrew, Am 23.07.22 um 03:49 schrieb Andrew Bernard: I know that we can't natively make ties between notes in different voices. I know that there was a Google Summer of Code task that could not be completed. A few weeks ago, I sent you the following privately (I was too timid to post in o

Re: Ties between voices

I was just asking. It is possible to do open source to an agreed roadmap, but that's not how it is for LilyPond, so now I know. On 23/07/2022 4:42 pm, Jean Abou Samra wrote: Le 23/07/2022 à 08:11, Andrew Bernard a écrit : I thought there may be a roadmap that contributors create? Or is curren

Re: Ties between voices

Le 23/07/2022 à 08:11, Andrew Bernard a écrit : I thought there may be a roadmap that contributors create? Or is current development just more or less ad hoc? Like most community-driven free software projects, LilyPond is developed as a hobby by contributors who do that each for their own reas

Re: Ties between voices

I thought there may be a roadmap that contributors create? Or is current development just more or less ad hoc? I am aware that it is currently a difficult problem, as I said. On 23/07/2022 4:04 pm, Jean Abou Samra wrote: It's not possible to answer your question, as most plans to develop fun

Re: Ties between voices

Le 23/07/2022 à 03:49, Andrew Bernard a écrit : I know that we can't natively make ties between notes in different voices. I know that there was a Google Summer of Code task that could not be completed. This is such a critical feature for keyboard music. When there are hundreds of such ties i

Re: Ties between voices

Hey Andrew, this might not help but did you try the technique in this snippet? https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-lilypond/2012-03/msg00663.html Just found this while looking around for people discussing slurs across voices previously. (pasted from url incase website is dead) Snip

Re: Ties between voices

Complete coincidence. Andrew Kevin Cole wrote on 4/06/2022 4:28 AM: On Fri, Jun 3, 2022 at 2:10 PM Andrew Bernard mailto:andrew.bern...@mailbox.org>> wrote: I've been away from LilyPond for a long time. Can we now make ties and or/slurs between notes in different voices? I can't s

Re: Ties between voices

Thanks Jean, I recall this now. A pity this hit a brick wall. In my scores I need it a lot. Dorico does it with ease, so I am going to have to go back to that. Sigh. Jean Abou Samra wrote on 4/06/2022 5:49 AM: See the recent thread https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-devel/2022-05/msg

Re: Ties between voices

> Le 3 juin 2022 à 20:09, Andrew Bernard a écrit : > > I've been away from LilyPond for a long time. Can we now make ties and > or/slurs between notes in different voices? I can't seem to find any > documentation on this. See the recent thread https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-d

Re: Ties on series of tied notes on center line flipping direction (randomly?)

Le 09/01/2022 à 19:06, Richard Shann a écrit : On Sun, 2022-01-09 at 12:48 -0500, Kieren MacMillan wrote: Hi Richard, I guess this means it is not a well-known feature. Not well-known, likely… but sure seems like a bug and not a feature to me.  =) It seems to me like a superset of these tw

Re: Ties on series of tied notes on center line flipping direction (randomly?)

On Sun, 2022-01-09 at 12:48 -0500, Kieren MacMillan wrote: > Hi Richard, > > > I guess this means it is not a well-known feature. > > Not well-known, likely… but sure seems like a bug and not a feature > to me.  =) > > > Does anyone have an idea if there are guidelines which suggest > > what cho

Re: Ties on series of tied notes on center line flipping direction (randomly?)

Hi Richard, > I guess this means it is not a well-known feature. Not well-known, likely… but sure seems like a bug and not a feature to me. =) > Does anyone have an idea if there are guidelines which suggest > what choice should be made? It is traditional to place ties on whole notes as if the

Re: Ties on series of tied notes on center line flipping direction (randomly?)

On Sun, 2022-01-09 at 17:43 +0100, Thomas Morley wrote: > Am So., 9. Jan. 2022 um 17:16 Uhr schrieb Valentin Petzel < > valen...@petzel.at>: > > > > Hi Richard, > > > > It is hard to try to understand the problem with just some > > pictures. Do you > > have some code you can send us? > > > > Che

Re: Ties on series of tied notes on center line flipping direction (randomly?)

Am So., 9. Jan. 2022 um 17:16 Uhr schrieb Valentin Petzel : > > Hi Richard, > > It is hard to try to understand the problem with just some pictures. Do you > have some code you can send us? > > Cheers, > Valentin > > Am Sonntag, 9. Jänner 2022, 13:34:48 CET schrieb Richard Shann: > > Hi, > > > > Ha

Re: Ties on series of tied notes on center line flipping direction (randomly?)

Hi Richard, It is hard to try to understand the problem with just some pictures. Do you have some code you can send us? Cheers, Valentin Am Sonntag, 9. Jänner 2022, 13:34:48 CET schrieb Richard Shann: > Hi, > > Has anyone experienced the direction of ties on a series of tied notes > on the ce

Re: Ties on series of tied notes on center line flipping direction (randomly?)

On Sun, Jan 9, 2022 at 4:36 AM Richard Shann wrote: > > Hi, > > Has anyone experienced the direction of ties on a series of tied notes > on the center line of the staff flipping direction, seemingly at > random? I suspect you are using a tie without a direction character. This is fine, but when

Re: ties with accidental split over lines

Thanks, Knute. I missed the part about \shape that it can take multiple sets of control points. Clearly I did not read that NR entry carefully enough! I am surprised to hear that Lilypond's default is standard in this case, since I haven't found examples of this in published works, and I have fo

Re: ties with accidental split over lines

I think it is the slur that is lower, not the accidental that is higher, and I think its placement is correct according to "convention" (or Gould), but if you want to change the shape of a slur broken over two systems, you can use the \shape command: \version "2.22.1" \include "english.ly" slurSh

Re: Ties between distant notes

Thank you, Carl; this is exactly what I was looking for. -- Owen On Thu, 24 Jun 2021 at 15:51, Carl Sorensen wrote: > > > > > *From: *lilypond-user gmail@gnu.org> on behalf of Owen Le Blanc > *Date: *Thursday, June 24, 2021 at 8:34 AM > *To: *"lilypond-user@gnu.org" > *Subject: *Ties

Re: Ties between distant notes

From: lilypond-user on behalf of Owen Le Blanc Date: Thursday, June 24, 2021 at 8:34 AM To: "lilypond-user@gnu.org" Subject: Ties between distant notes I'm working on setting some music which, in the original, contains many notes which are tied even though they are not "contingent". So, fo

Re: ties with TeXShop

Hey there John, I believe that the LilyPond engine is now included automatically in the TexShop distribution, so the Italian university link is moot (it’s where you used to have to download the engine from.) Here’s what I did, quoted from a discussion on this list this past sum

Re: ties with TeXShop

On 2021-01-25 5:47 am, Aaron Hill wrote: On 2021-01-25 5:19 am, John D. Berry wrote: At one point I happily used TeXShop to do all of my Lilypond work. A couple of years have passed and I have returned with a new Mac and I find that I cannot get to this configuration due to an error in pointer

Re: ties with TeXShop

On 2021-01-25 5:19 am, John D. Berry wrote: At one point I happily used TeXShop to do all of my Lilypond work. A couple of years have passed and I have returned with a new Mac and I find that I cannot get to this configuration due to an error in pointer to an italian university. It says that th

Re: ties between voices

Hi Carl, I think you misunderstood.  The \voices command does not let slurs go across voices.  Rather, it allows existing voices to go into the << \\ >> polyphony expression. Previously (and still, if you don't use the \voices command), << \\ >> created two temporary voices, neither one relat

Re: ties between voices

elinsky > Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2020 6:23 PM > To: lilypond-user@gnu.org > Subject: Re: ties between voices > > David Zelinsky writes: > > > I've done some reasonably complicated things in Lilypond, but still > > have lots to learn. My current conundrum is to typ

RE: ties between voices

David, Thank you. Mark -Original Message- From: lilypond-user [mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+carsonmark=ca.rr@gnu.org] On Behalf Of David Zelinsky Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2020 7:32 PM To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: ties between voices "Mark Stephen Mrotek" writes

Re: ties between voices

On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 8:32 PM David Zelinsky wrote: > > Here's where it says "Lyrics and spanners (such as slurs, ties, > hairpins, etc.) cannot be created *across* voices.": > > http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.20/Documentation/notation/multiple-voices#index-_005cvoices > > And here's where it says

Re: ties between voices

"Mark Stephen Mrotek" writes: > David Zelinsky writes: > >> I had seen "\voices" in the manual, but it did not say anything about >> continuing phrasing or dynamics across voices. I fact it said it can't be >> done. But after seeing people's responses, I looked further and found where >> it ex

RE: ties between voices

30, 2020 6:23 PM To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: ties between voices David Zelinsky writes: > I've done some reasonably complicated things in Lilypond, but still > have lots to learn. My current conundrum is to typeset the attached snippet. > I can't figure out how t

Re: ties between voices

David Zelinsky writes: > I've done some reasonably complicated things in Lilypond, but still have > lots to learn. My current conundrum is to typeset the attached snippet. > I can't figure out how to get the tie between the G's, without breaking > the double stops in the first measure into two s

Re: ties between voices

Carl Sorensen writes: > David, > > This notation will greatly simplify some of the choral music I set in > the past year. I forgot about the discussion on the lists, and so > didn't use it even though it was available. Thanks for making it work > > Aaron, > > I think this is a useful enough wr

Re: ties between voices

On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 3:44 PM David Kastrup wrote: > > Aaron Hill writes: > > > On 2020-06-29 2:17 pm, David Kastrup wrote: > >> \voices 1,3,4,2 << \soprano \\ \alto \\ \tenor \\ \bass >> > >> which is ugly enough as it is [...] > > > > Does not seem that ugly to me, but I suppose one could enc

Re: ties between voices

Aaron Hill writes: > On 2020-06-29 2:17 pm, David Kastrup wrote: >> \voices 1,3,4,2 << \soprano \\ \alto \\ \tenor \\ \bass >> >> which is ugly enough as it is [...] > > Does not seem that ugly to me, but I suppose one could encapsulate it > via the ever-handy \etc: > > > \version "2.20.0" >

Re: ties between voices

On 2020-06-29 2:17 pm, David Kastrup wrote: \voices 1,3,4,2 << \soprano \\ \alto \\ \tenor \\ \bass >> which is ugly enough as it is [...] Does not seem that ugly to me, but I suppose one could encapsulate it via the ever-handy \etc: \version "2.20.0" soprano = { c''4 } alto = { a'4 }

Re: ties between voices

Pierre Perol-Schneider writes: > Le lun. 29 juin 2020 à 22:31, David Kastrup a écrit : > >> >> Just keep most stuff in the main voice, like >> > ... > >> \voices "main", 2 << { g4 f\) } \\ a,2 >> > > ... > WTF??? > 'just discovered that \voices is in the 2.20 learning manual... > One word: bravo

Re: ties between voices

Le lun. 29 juin 2020 à 22:31, David Kastrup a écrit : > > Just keep most stuff in the main voice, like > ... > \voices "main", 2 << { g4 f\) } \\ a,2 >> ... WTF??? 'just discovered that \voices is in the 2.20 learning manual... One word: bravo. Cheers, Pierre

Re: ties between voices

Sorry, forgot the list... Lukas-Fabian Moser schrieb am Mo., 29. Juni 2020, 22:08: > Hi David, > > I can't figure out how to get the tie between the G's, without breaking >> the double stops in the first measure into two separate voices, and so >> breaking their stems. Can someone show me how t

Re: ties between voices

David Zelinsky writes: > I've done some reasonably complicated things in Lilypond, but still have > lots to learn. My current conundrum is to typeset the attached snippet. > I can't figure out how to get the tie between the G's, without breaking > the double stops in the first measure into two s

Re: ties between voices

On Mon, 29 Jun 2020 at 21:37, David Zelinsky wrote: > > I've done some reasonably complicated things in Lilypond, but still have > lots to learn. My current conundrum is to typeset the attached snippet. > I can't figure out how to get the tie between the G's, without breaking > the double stops i

Re: Ties between Fingerings

Am Mo., 6. Apr. 2020 um 10:49 Uhr schrieb Noeck : > > Wow. Thanks Harm! That makes sense and looks good. > > I never thought of a glissando here. But it actually makes sense. Now I > wonder if a straight glissando line would even be more appropriate than > a slur … I would read it more easily. > >

Re: Ties between Fingerings

> Hm. Can it be made breakable in a way that the glissando line appears on > both ends? Found it: \override Glissando.after-line-breaking = #'()

Re: Ties between Fingerings

Hm. Can it be made breakable in a way that the glissando line appears on both ends? Joram

Re: Ties between Fingerings

Wow. Thanks Harm! That makes sense and looks good. I never thought of a glissando here. But it actually makes sense. Now I wonder if a straight glissando line would even be more appropriate than a slur … I would read it more easily. Joram

Re: Ties between Fingerings

Am Mo., 6. Apr. 2020 um 10:27 Uhr schrieb Noeck : > > Hi, > > can Lilypond draw ties between fingerings? > I can fake it by using a slur and putting it above the fingering: > > \version "2.20.0" > { > % fake what I want > \override Fingering.avoid-slur = #'inside > cis''-4( c''-4) r > % tie

Re: Ties in chord mode

Hi Carl, Thanks for clarifying my stream of consciousness blathering. My preference was not to have any chord name displayed at all for tied chords. Your workarounds are both excellent ideas, however I ultimately adopted Thomas' solution, as it achieved what I needed with minimal entry required.

Re: Ties in chord mode

From: Ben Eichler Date: Saturday, February 29, 2020 at 1:46 AM To: Subject: Ties in chord mode Hi all, I transcribe songs using a style of melody + lyrics + chords. In certain songs, I write the same chord twice. Sometimes I want both chords to be printed, for example the second chord is s

RE: Ties in chord mode

Wow I’ve never seen that syntax before. Works perfectly for what I need, since I’m only printing chord letters in a ChordNames context. Thanks Thomas! -Ben From: Thomas Morley Sent: 01 March 2020 07:38 To: Ben Eichler Cc: lilypond-user Subject: Re: Ties in chord mode Am Sa., 29. Feb. 2020 um

Re: Ties in chord mode

Am Sa., 29. Feb. 2020 um 11:07 Uhr schrieb Ben Eichler : > > Hi all, > > > I transcribe songs using a style of melody + lyrics + chords. In certain > songs, I write the same chord twice. Sometimes I want both chords to be > printed, for example the second chord is starting a new section. Other ti

Re: Ties in chord mode

Hi Ben, Ben Eichler wrote > suppose I want that C major chord to last only for 5 beats, in a melody > I would use a tie, but that doesn't work in chord mode, the second chord > is > printed which I don't want: > Chord notation: |C . . . |(C) F . . | > Lilypond notation: \chordmode { c1( c4) f2.

Re: Ties over repeat boundaries

Thomas Thanks for your in-depth explanations. They help me understanding lilypond more and more. Your tips lead me to an absolutely satisfying result: * Use \repeatTie and \laissezVibrer - clean code, comprehensible score * Lyrics without \repeat / \alternative (in fact: not relevant in the conte

Re: Ties over repeat boundaries

Am Sa., 4. Mai 2019 um 23:39 Uhr schrieb mu...@gmx.ch : > > Hello again > > I'm having problems with ties over the repeat bar lines when adding lyrics. > > First let's look at the melody alone - without lyrics: > The tie over the repeat bar line between the two volta spanners is wrong. Yep. It's a

Re: Ties in markup

Thanks, the make-tie-stencil was exactly what I was looking for! I also didn’t realise it was possible to have a \score inside a markup, that will be very useful in future. Best, Edward --- Dr. Edward Neeman www.neemanpianoduo.com > On 31 Mar 2019, at 12:03 pm, Aaron Hill wrote: > > On 2019

Re: Ties in markup

On 2019-03-30 5:53 pm, Edward Neeman wrote: Hello, How might I have tie shapes within a markup context? Sorry if I missed something obvious. There is \undertie and \overtie, as well as \tied-lyric. But if you are looking for something more flexible like the actual stencil used for ties and

Re: Ties in markup

Hi Edward, Do you mean you want music in a markup? It's in the Notation Reference manual (NR). Give us a picture of what you want. Andrew On Sun, 31 Mar 2019 at 11:55, Edward Neeman wrote: > > How might I have tie shapes within a markup context? > > ___

Re: ties and cross staff beaming

Your code has an error. Can you tell me how to fix? warning: this Voice needs a \voiceXx or \shiftXx setting \down c,8~[ \up ~] Well, "an error" - to be precise, this code 1) compiles successfully 2) gives the intended output 3) causes Lilypond to give a warning. I wasn't surprised by 3) (si

Re: ties and cross staff beaming

Lukas-Fabian Moser wrote > Am 05.03.19 um 19:27 schrieb Rachel Knight: >> That idea should have worked, but the ties don’t look quite right. >> Below is a compilable example. > > Yes, that's why working with hidden extra notes is a bit messy: We have > to prevent those from taking up space. (Omi

Re: ties and cross staff beaming

Thanks! This worked. I don’t have a good reason for stemUp, so I’ll switch to using voiceOne. (I’m still a pretty new Lilypond user.) Rachel > On Mar 5, 2019, at 12:01 PM, Lukas-Fabian Moser wrote: > > > Am 05.03.19 um 19:27 schrieb Rachel Knight: >> That idea should have worked, but the ties

Re: ties and cross staff beaming

Am 05.03.19 um 19:27 schrieb Rachel Knight: That idea should have worked, but the ties don’t look quite right. Below is a compilable example. Yes, that's why working with hidden extra notes is a bit messy: We have to prevent those from taking up space. (Omit the \hideNotes to understand what

Re: ties and cross staff beaming

That idea should have worked, but the ties don’t look quite right. Below is a compilable example. Rachel \version "2.19.81" down = { \change Staff = "bass" \stemUp } up = {\change Staff = "treble" \stemDown} \language "english" Treble = { << \relative c' { \set tieWaitForNote = ##t

Re: ties and cross staff beaming

I am putting a score into Lilypond, and I can’t figure out how to replicate the tied notes in the screenshot below. I am using the command \change Staff = “bass” to move notes to the bass clef, but I am not sure how to keep the cross staff beaming and create ties to the quarter note. Is the

Re: ties and cross staff beaming

Dear Rachel, << {         \change Staff = "bass" c,4       }       \\       {         \up       4       }     >> Please always give a _compilable_ [and, if possible] minimal example of LilyPond code to facilitate helping you. Lukas ___ lilypond-

Re: Ties across voices

On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 12:03 PM, Shachar Shemesh wrote: > I will point out that the documentation for those is somewhat lean. > Maybe it's a good idea to amend the documentation to say that it is possible > to create ties across voices. You just might be the best-qualified person to write s

Re: Ties across voices

On 17/06/18 21:14, Simon Albrecht wrote: I moved Tie_performer along, since you were talking about the importance of accurate MIDI for your use case. I don’t use MIDI (or hardly ever) so I can’t test reasonably, but it should work, I imagine.

Re: Ties across voices

"Phil Holmes" writes: > - Original Message - > From: "Carl Sorensen" > To: "Simon Albrecht" ; "Shachar Shemesh" > ; > Sent: Monday, June 18, 2018 4:52 PM > Subject: Re: Ties across voices > > >> >> >

Re: Ties across voices

- Original Message - From: "Carl Sorensen" To: "Simon Albrecht" ; "Shachar Shemesh" ; Sent: Monday, June 18, 2018 4:52 PM Subject: Re: Ties across voices On 6/17/18, 12:14 PM, "Simon Albrecht" wrote: On 16.06.2018 20:41, Shachar Sheme

Re: Ties across voices

On 6/17/18, 12:14 PM, "Simon Albrecht" wrote: On 16.06.2018 20:41, Shachar Shemesh wrote: > The Tie won't tie between the voices and the chord past the voices. It seems to work if you move the Tie_engraver from Voice to Staff level: I moved Tie_performer along, since

Re: Ties across voices

On 17/06/18 19:03, Shachar Shemesh wrote: On 17/06/18 07:51, Carl Sorensen wrote: This turns out to be a quite challenging snippet to engrave. I'm sorry, it seems that my challenges are not over :-( You can read more about using hidden notes to make ties span voices here: It is an interesting

Re: Ties across voices

PS. It’s helpful if you include a complete, compilable example in your requests, including a \version statement so we know which version you are using. See . Best, Simon On 16.06.2018 20:41, Shachar Shemesh wrote: I'm attaching a scan from "The Easy W

Re: Ties across voices

On 16.06.2018 20:41, Shachar Shemesh wrote: I'm attaching a scan from "The Easy Winners" by Scott Joplin, the way it was published in 1901. I can't seem to get it to display the way I want. […] The Tie won't tie between the voices and the chord past the voices. It seems to work if you mo

Re: Ties across voices

On 17/06/18 07:51, Carl Sorensen wrote: This turns out to be a quite challenging snippet to engrave. I'm sorry, it seems that my challenges are not over :-( You can read more about using hidden notes to make ties span voices here: It is an i

Re: Ties across voices

From: Pierre Perol-Schneider Date: Saturday, June 16, 2018 at 11:25 PM To: Carl Sorensen Cc: Shachar Shemesh , "lilypond-user@gnu.org" Subject: Re: Ties across voices Hi Sachar, Hi Carl, How about : \relative c'' { \time 2/4 \key aes\major \mergeDifferentlyDottedO

Re: Ties across voices

Hi Sachar, Hi Carl, How about : \relative c'' { \time 2/4 \key aes\major \mergeDifferentlyDottedOn << { g16 8. ges16 8 des16~ | \stemNeutral 8 f'16 des ees f aes, a | } \\ { g4 ges8. f16~ | \once\hideNotes f4 s } >> } Cheers, Pierre 2018-06-17 6:51 GMT+02:00 C

Re: Ties across voices

This turns out to be a quite challenging snippet to engrave. Here's the first attempt: \version "2.18" \partcombine \relative {\time 2/4 \key aes\major g'16 8. ges16 8 des16~ | des8 f16 des ees f aes, a |} \relative {\time 2/4 \key aes\major g'4 \mergeD

Re: Ties between bottom two staff lines and top two staff lines positioned strangely

On 11.12.2017 09:47, Andrew Bernard wrote: Without resorting to adjusting the TieColumn, you could take a look at the Tie.details list. There ought to be enough tunability in there to suit you (although I am well aware of the Tie Crusade. Whatever happened to that by the way?) It was a projec

Re: Ties between bottom two staff lines and top two staff lines positioned strangely

Well, ties on other notes seem to be positioned just above or below the notes (unless they're in a interval/chord) which I think is the standard. I guess it does boil down to a matter of taste in the end, but I don't think I've seen ties in a professional score be positioned the way they are fo

Re: Ties between bottom two staff lines and top two staff lines positioned strangely

Hi Robert, For me, I see nothing strange - I think this is a matter of taste. I don't have the standard text Behind Bars to quote from, but I feel this is a matter of personal judgement. Without resorting to adjusting the TieColumn, you could take a look at the Tie.details list. There ought to be

Re: Ties between voices?

On Sat, 07 Oct 2017 23:15:17 +0800 Thomas Morley wrote > > You could do \override TieColumn.positioning-done = ##t, but be aware, > > using it means you are now responsible yourself for the Tie's > > directions. > > You tell LilyPond "Don't bother placing the Ties, I'll do" > > T

Re: Ties between voices?

2017-10-07 17:08 GMT+02:00 Thomas Morley : > 2017-10-07 16:40 GMT+02:00 James Harkins : >> On Sat, 07 Oct 2017 20:49:31 +0800 Simon Albrecht >> wrote >>> On 07.10.2017 13:55, James Harkins wrote: >>> > But, it's a chord where I want the lower tie to go down, and >>> > the upper one to

Re: Ties between voices?

2017-10-07 16:40 GMT+02:00 James Harkins : > On Sat, 07 Oct 2017 20:49:31 +0800 Simon Albrecht > wrote >> On 07.10.2017 13:55, James Harkins wrote: >> > But, it's a chord where I want the lower tie to go down, and >> > the upper one to go up... >> >> Put the ties inside the chord: >>

Re: Ties between voices?

On Sat, 07 Oct 2017 20:49:31 +0800 Simon Albrecht wrote > On 07.10.2017 13:55, James Harkins wrote: > > But, it's a chord where I want the lower tie to go down, and > > the upper one to go up... > > Put the ties inside the chord: > Oh... I'm afraid I spoke too soon. The syn

Re: Ties between voices?

On October 7, 2017 20:49:38 Simon Albrecht wrote: On 07.10.2017 13:55, James Harkins wrote: But, it's a chord where I want the lower tie to go down, and the upper one to go up... Put the ties inside the chord: I'm binge watching Rick & Morty season 3, but this blows my mind even more th

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