Re: [lfs-dev] Kernel configuration for systemd

2014-04-25 Thread Ken Moffat
On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 10:35:11PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > > Does this help? > > http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Systemd#Kernel > >-- Bruce No ;-) They show "open by fhandle syscalls" as required, so I start to believe there is no choice for that. But the other items I queried, as well

[lfs-dev] Kernel configuration for systemd

2014-04-25 Thread Ken Moffat
I've now got to section 8.3, and as-expected I need to change my kernel config from what I've been using, if I hope it will support booting with systemd. But I'd like to query if a few of these settings really are necessary, and also to suggest that we ought to distinguish between what is require

Re: [lfs-dev] [lfs-book] r10546 - in trunk/BOOK: chapter01 chapter06

2014-04-22 Thread Ken Moffat
On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 11:28:32AM -0700, bdu...@higgs.linuxfromscratch.org wrote: > Author: bdubbs > Date: Tue Apr 22 11:28:32 2014 > New Revision: 10546 > > Log: > Update users so all acl tests pass > > > Modified: trunk/BOOK/chapter06/shadow.xml > ===

Re: [lfs-dev] section 7.1 : typo ?

2014-04-22 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 09:27:55PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Ken Moffat wrote: > > I'm just looking in more detail at the set-systemd and set-sysv > > scripts in section 7.1. > > > > Two questions: > > > > 1. set-systemd ends with > > echo

[lfs-dev] variables in /etc/vconsole.conf

2014-04-22 Thread Ken Moffat
I'm trying to guess what I need here, but the details seem to be sparse. 1. FONT_MAP and FONT_UNIMAP : I haven't found any relevant examples yet, but I assume those of use using UTF-8 throughout our system do not need to specify anything ? I saw an example of FONT_MAP for legacy 8859-2, so I'm a

[lfs-dev] section 7.1 : typo ?

2014-04-20 Thread Ken Moffat
I'm just looking in more detail at the set-systemd and set-sysv scripts in section 7.1. Two questions: 1. set-systemd ends with echo "Now reboot with /sbin/reboot-sysv" and set-sysv ends with echo "Now reboot with /sbin/reboot-systemd" Are these swapped, i.e. set-systemd should instruct peop

Re: [lfs-dev] Incorporating upstream patches

2014-04-13 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 12:06:54PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > I would like to get the opinion of the community. Right now we have > four tickets: > > #3537 MPFR-3.1.2 Patchlevel 5 > #3536 Fix BC-1.06.95 bug > #3532 Readline-6.3 patchlevel 3 > #3532 Bash-4.3 patchlevel 8 > > All of these call f

Re: [lfs-dev] Major changes in -dev

2014-04-04 Thread Ken Moffat
On Thu, Apr 03, 2014 at 08:35:34PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Ken Moffat wrote: > > > > I'm now sufficiently interested by this to try a _minimal_ build > > (i.e. LFS and not much else - many of the things I normally build > > before rebooting have their o

Re: [lfs-dev] Major changes in -dev

2014-04-04 Thread Ken Moffat
On Fri, Apr 04, 2014 at 08:44:22PM +0200, Denis Mugnier wrote: > On 04/04/2014 18:41, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > > Denis Mugnier wrote: > >> > >> It is possible to integrate eudev on the BLFS book to provide a solution > >> without the systemd package? > > Not without changing the flow. I understand the

Re: [lfs-dev] Major changes in -dev

2014-04-04 Thread Ken Moffat
On Fri, Apr 04, 2014 at 11:49:14AM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Ken Moffat wrote: > > >> The scripts to reconfigure are in /usr/local/sbin and are named > >> set-systemd and set-sysv. I recommend re-reading Chapter 7 as there are > >> a lot of changes there. >

Re: [lfs-dev] Major changes in -dev

2014-04-03 Thread Ken Moffat
On Fri, Apr 04, 2014 at 02:46:13AM +0200, MENGUAL Jean-Philippe wrote: > Hi, > > OK so LFS doesn't use anymore sysvinit, but Systemd. I thought the book > 9ould use an approach like the CLFS one: one chapter if you use Systemd; > one if sysvinit (in CLFS: if you chroot; if you reboot). Given tha

Re: [lfs-dev] Major changes in -dev

2014-04-03 Thread Ken Moffat
On Thu, Apr 03, 2014 at 05:11:10PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > I've committed a major change to the -dev version of LFS. > > The new version installs systemd and System V side-by-side with the > ability to reconfigure and come up in the other system. > I'm sorry to see eudev disappear from the

Re: [lfs-dev] udev rules

2014-04-02 Thread Ken Moffat
On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 02:00:29PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > I've been trying to figure out whether we need the lfs udev rules when > transitioning to udev from systemd-211. > > 83-cdrom-symlinks.rules needs write_cd_rules, so those go together. > Taking a quick look at them, I admit I don't

[lfs-dev] Non-zero test result in acl

2014-04-01 Thread Ken Moffat
Since acl is now in the book, I decided to run its tests. I rather wish I hadn't (my scripts do not lend themselves to keeping the build directory around, and then going back to it later), but in case anyone else is tempted to try this I'm reporting that I got a non-zero return code, which caused

Re: [lfs-dev] systemd vs system V

2014-03-31 Thread Ken Moffat
On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 01:26:46PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > > The init program is controlled by the /etc/inittab file and is organized > into run levels that can be run by the user: > > 0 — halt > 1 — Single user mode > 2 — Multiuser, without networking > 3 — Full multiuse

Re: [lfs-dev] headers_check : should we drop it ?

2014-03-31 Thread Ken Moffat
On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 04:43:26PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > > I'm not touching Chapter 5 right now. Go ahead. > I took the liberty of removing two words from the text in the chapter 6 headers page. If you are updating anything else today, feel free to remove my changelog entry : I put it th

Re: [lfs-dev] headers_check : should we drop it ?

2014-03-31 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sun, Mar 09, 2014 at 07:39:55PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Ken Moffat wrote: > > > > Should we just drop this command ? > > Perhaps we should. What is happening is that scripts/headers_check.pl > is being run. The comments say: > > # Usage: headers_check.

Re: [lfs-dev] Proposal: Firmware instructions

2014-03-14 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 01:49:54AM +0100, Armin K. wrote: > I have noticed that we don't seem to cover firmware installation > anywhere in LFS. The trick is that some modern network cards and most > wireless ones require firmware to function. Radeon cards also require > firmware (most of them does

Re: [lfs-dev] [blfs-dev] LFS and Git]

2014-03-09 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sun, Mar 09, 2014 at 11:06:42PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Ken Moffat wrote: > > The great benefit of git is in branches - in svn, a branch is "cast > > in stone" and is a PITA. In git, branches are just pointers. If > > you want to maintain a stable branc

Re: [lfs-dev] [blfs-dev] LFS and Git]

2014-03-09 Thread Ken Moffat
- Forwarded message from Ken Moffat - #?^€^ ! I managed to send the reply to blfs instead of lfs. On Sun, Mar 09, 2014 at 09:16:42PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > > Merging is generally not needed by me, but that may be the reason Armin > wants to move to git. I can'

[lfs-dev] headers_check : should we drop it ?

2014-03-09 Thread Ken Moffat
I've just noticed that someone on CLFS ran 'make headers_check' and feared that the usual error reports (from kexec.h and soundcard.h) about "userspace cannot reference function or variable defined in the kernel" were errors. In theory, running "make headers_check" allows _kernel_ devs to check

Re: [blfs-dev] Package stats

2014-03-07 Thread Ken Moffat
On Thu, Mar 06, 2014 at 06:22:52PM +, Ken Moffat wrote: > It is clear that my rebuild of the docs was very different from > Fernando's. At the moment I'm concentrating on rebuilding > everything in chroot, just in case there is any breakage from > accidental chang

Re: [lfs-dev] eudev has replaced systemd in LFS

2014-03-07 Thread Ken Moffat
On Fri, Mar 07, 2014 at 12:09:35PM -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > xinglp wrote: > > >> And most importantly, /dev/disk was not created. > > > I got it, eudev should be after util-linux, for libblkid > > It's not picking up util-linux from Chapter 5? If not, we'll need to > adjust some flags. >

Re: [lfs-dev] udev, eudev, mdev

2014-03-04 Thread Ken Moffat
On Tue, Mar 04, 2014 at 11:37:32AM -0600, William Harrington wrote: > > On Mar 4, 2014, at 10:43 AM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > > > eudev wants gperf and gtk-doc. We could add gperf to LFS and probably > > do away with both gperf and the gudev build in BLFS. gtk-doc needs > > several other prerequisi

Re: [blfs-dev] Upcoming BLFS-7.5 release

2014-03-04 Thread Ken Moffat
On Mon, Mar 03, 2014 at 09:56:43PM -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Ken Moffat wrote: > >> > > Too late, I've put it as an option for peopl using LFS before 7.5. > > I saw that. It's ok. We may want to remove later though. > Should be easy enough to grep

Re: [lfs-dev] linux-3.13.5

2014-03-03 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sun, Mar 02, 2014 at 10:53:38PM -0800, Bryan Kadzban wrote: > Ken Moffat wrote: > > So I guess this is a long way of saying -- are you sure the rm userspace code > is what was hung, and not something in the kernel? Might be a prevalence of > cosmic rays I suppose, or it mi

Re: [lfs-dev] linux-3.13.5

2014-03-02 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sun, Mar 02, 2014 at 05:47:36PM -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Ken, You mentioned a problem with linux-3.13.5. Can you explain your > issues with that version? > >-- Bruce Ah! I've just put a short summary in my reply to you re libexecdir on blfs-dev. Here's a MUCH fuller one: I built

Re: [lfs-dev] Are we ready for LFS-7.5?

2014-02-28 Thread Ken Moffat
On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 01:15:10PM -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > > So the questions is whether we should release 7.5 tomorrow or not. We > could wait for BLFS, but I'm not sure that's really necessary. > As far as I am concerned, LFS -rc1 seems fine : but I've only built it on x86_64 desktops (t

Re: [lfs-dev] FHS Update

2014-02-15 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 12:52:58AM +0100, Armin K. wrote: > On 02/15/2014 11:29 PM, Armin K. wrote: > > On 02/15/2014 06:23 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > >> After akhiezer's thorough review of the FHS changes, I've narrowed > >> things down to the following. > >> > >> The numbers refer to the version c

Re: [lfs-dev] /var/cache/man

2014-02-13 Thread Ken Moffat
On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 04:07:55PM -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Armin K. wrote: > > > > mandb seems to work here if /var/cache/man directory is not present. > > Yes, that works for me too. mandb creates the directory if it does not > already exist, but, of course, you need to run mandb as root. >

Re: [lfs-dev] Failure setting LC_ALL in chroot ?

2014-02-13 Thread Ken Moffat
On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 02:52:09PM -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Ken Moffat wrote: > > In the LFS chroot for the system I built overnight, I got: > > > Testsuite summar

[lfs-dev] /var/cache/man

2014-02-13 Thread Ken Moffat
On my desktops, I use a script to run updatedb, followed by mandb, every day or so. This runs from root's fcrontab, so it is one of the first things to get run on a new system. Last night it failed with a message that it could not write to /var/cache/man/something/else - no such file or director

Re: [lfs-dev] Failure setting LC_ALL in chroot ?

2014-02-12 Thread Ken Moffat
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 06:00:52PM +, Ken Moffat wrote: > > Will use make -k check in my build, and carry on. In fact, 'make check || true' was what I needed. ĸen -- das eine Mal als Tragödie, dieses Mal als Farce -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/l

[lfs-dev] Failure setting LC_ALL in chroot ?

2014-02-12 Thread Ken Moffat
Testing last week's -svn (everything except glibc-2.19 : if _that_ causes problems, I'd like to correctly attribute the blame). Got a test failure in man-db : root in chroot /# cat /building/man-db-2.6.6/src/tests/test-suite.log man-db 2.6.6: src/

Re: [lfs-dev] /usr/lib/libncurses.so.5

2014-02-08 Thread Ken Moffat
On Fri, Feb 07, 2014 at 08:16:16PM -0800, Bryan Kadzban wrote: > Bruce Dubbs wrote: > > Ken Moffat wrote: > >> On Fri, Feb 07, 2014 at 03:06:52PM -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > >>> BTW, without the above, we do have /usr/lib/libncurses.a. Shouldn't > >>

Re: [lfs-dev] /usr/lib/libncurses.so.5

2014-02-07 Thread Ken Moffat
On Fri, Feb 07, 2014 at 03:06:52PM -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > > In Chapter 6 we have: > > Note > > The instructions above don't create non-wide-character Ncurses libraries > since no package installed by compiling from sources would link against > them at runtime. If you must have such librar

[lfs-dev] /usr/lib/libncurses.so.5

2014-02-07 Thread Ken Moffat
I'm looking at the things which the TeX Live binary installer links to on a 7.4 system. Mostly, all is fine (LFS libs, and X-related libs), but for asy [ asymptote ] and xindy.run, ldd reported that libncurses.so.5 was not found. It seems eminently possible that this problem is "mine, all mine"

[blfs-dev] Tex (#4647)

2014-02-04 Thread Ken Moffat
This ticket lists a whole lot of changes to how we build Tex from source. I took it, because I don't (in general) like packages which use their own static versions of system libs. But I now see that the following are external references: GD, t1lib, ZZIPlib, TECkit, Graphite, and also CLISP (not

Re: [lfs-dev] Preparing Virtual File Systems

2013-12-21 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 10:11:06AM -0800, Bryan Kadzban wrote: > On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 05:56:37PM +0100, Armin K. wrote: > > > In latest lfs book, the "Preparing Virtual File Systems" page contains: > > > > > > 6.2.1. Creating Initial Device Nodes > > > > > > When the kernel boots the system, i

Re: [lfs-dev] systemd discussions

2013-12-13 Thread Ken Moffat
On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 09:06:17PM +, Kevin Lyda wrote: > Dear children, > > I for one would appreciate it if the discussions about systemd would be > solely about the technical issues and not a contest to see who can be the > biggest prat. > > With much love and affection, > > Kevin That

Re: [blfs-dev] A few things I have found with subversion

2013-11-19 Thread Ken Moffat
On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 10:16:10AM -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > > Bottom line -- jsut use what you have. Sometimes a short description is > useful like (all dependencies) or (with[out] tests). > Another comment on the SBU measurements : for a long time, I've been repeating the SBU calculation w

Re: [lfs-dev] umount as an unprivileged user (util-linux2.23.2, LFS-7.4)

2013-11-17 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 10:16:37PM +0100, Thomas Trepl wrote: > > Hmmm, here is what i get on a VIA-C3: > > lfs@io:~$ mount /mnt/pub > lfs@io:~$ umount /mnt/pub > umount.nfs: You are not permitted to unmount /mnt/pub > lfs@io:~$ uname -a > Linux io 3.11.6-LFS #1 SMP PREEMPT Mon Nov 4 03:30:14 CET

[lfs-dev] umount as an unprivileged user (util-linux2.23.2, LFS-7.4)

2013-11-17 Thread Ken Moffat
(Bringing this here from support after finding the fix.) Early last month I discovered that a user could not umount anything mounted via the 'user' option in fstab. OK, I expect many people don't do that - it's typically for mounting external devices on a desktop, and I guess that desktop envir

Re: [lfs-dev] make-4.0 checks

2013-10-22 Thread Ken Moffat
On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 10:04:19AM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Matthew Burgess wrote: > > On Mon, 21 Oct 2013 20:41:52 -0500, Bruce Dubbs > > wrote: > >> I just ran jhalfs against the latest files and had one anomaly in the > >> new make-4.0 checks: > >> > >> functions/file ..

Re: [lfs-dev] util-linux v2.24-rc2

2013-10-11 Thread Ken Moffat
On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 12:55:34PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > util-linux v2.24-rc2 was released today and I've been testing it. It > builds quite cleanly, but I have a problem with a couple of tests. > > The two tests for the 'last' command want to use the DNS resolver that > is not available

Re: [lfs-dev] Update to docbook stylesheets

2013-10-10 Thread Ken Moffat
On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 09:45:49PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Ken Moffat wrote: > > > [ rude words : someone didn't log 3.11.4 in the Changelog - I'm > > building with 3.11.1 headers, but I doubt that will make any real > > difference to anything ] > > It

Re: [lfs-dev] Update to docbook stylesheets

2013-10-09 Thread Ken Moffat
On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 12:49:54AM +0100, Matt Burgess wrote: > On Wed, 2013-10-09 at 19:54 +0100, Matt Burgess wrote: > > > Well, I've made some progress already, just by copying and pasting the > > original xsl:template from the upstream autoidx.xsl file. I'm now > > working on adjusting it to

Re: [lfs-dev] Bug in binutils-2.23.2

2013-09-01 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sun, Sep 01, 2013 at 06:23:47PM +0200, Klemen Košir wrote: > I followed the instructions, but I set several environment variables: > > MAKEFLAGS="-j 4" > CFLAGS="-march=corei7 -Os -pipe" > CXXFLAGS="${CFLAGS}" For some time, -Os has been deprecated in kernel builds. It got introduced there w

Re: [lfs-dev] Odd 'man' perms in my -rc

2013-08-31 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 03:47:53PM +0100, Ken Moffat wrote: Sorry, this is becoming O/T for LFS itself. > Thanks for that confirmation. I don't install reiser, and I hadn't > installed raptor at that point, Don't want to return to the rc1 > system on this box at

Re: [lfs-dev] Odd 'man' perms in my -rc

2013-08-31 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 12:31:37PM -0500, William Harrington wrote: > > On Aug 31, 2013, at 10:52 AM, Igor Živković wrote: > > >The culprit is git-manpages-1.8.4. I've just noticed it on my newest > >build. I've also noticed that LFS doesn't install tar man page. :-) > > > Hmm I recently instal

Re: [lfs-dev] Odd 'man' perms in my -rc

2013-08-31 Thread Ken Moffat
On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 11:20:29PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Ken Moffat wrote: > > > > (which I build straight after xorg). It's gitk, but 'man git' (or > > man anything) didn't work for a regular user - instead it listed the > > manpage it couldn&

[lfs-dev] Odd 'man' perms in my -rc

2013-08-30 Thread Ken Moffat
I'm just rebuilding my current desktop on -rc2. Got to the end of my xorg script and couldn't remember which git command uses tcl (which I build straight after xorg). It's gitk, but 'man git' (or man anything) didn't work for a regular user - instead it listed the manpage it couldn't open. Som

Re: [blfs-dev] strace

2013-08-26 Thread Ken Moffat
On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 10:54:22AM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Ken Moffat wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 11:32:15PM +0100, Ken Moffat wrote: > >> On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 04:10:58PM -0500, Rob Landley wrote: > >>> > >>> I also built strace-4.8

Re: [lfs-dev] LFS-7.4-rc building itself.

2013-08-26 Thread Ken Moffat
On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 05:41:43PM +0100, Ken Moffat wrote: > On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 11:32:33AM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > > > > It's hard for me to believe that we are the first ones seeing that. > > I'll take a look at it on my system to see if there is some

Re: [lfs-dev] LFS-7.4-rc building itself.

2013-08-26 Thread Ken Moffat
On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 11:32:33AM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Ken Moffat wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 04:50:06PM +0100, Ken Moffat wrote: > >> Successful build and boot [1] on x86_64. Differences between the > >> first and second builds were Matt's patch

Re: [lfs-dev] LFS-7.4-rc building itself.

2013-08-26 Thread Ken Moffat
On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 04:50:06PM +0100, Ken Moffat wrote: > Successful build and boot [1] on x86_64. Differences between the > first and second builds were Matt's patches for automake and > texinfo, and now 3.10.9 headers. No new test failures. > > 1. I used rpcbind-0.

[lfs-dev] LFS-7.4-rc building itself.

2013-08-26 Thread Ken Moffat
Successful build and boot [1] on x86_64. Differences between the first and second builds were Matt's patches for automake and texinfo, and now 3.10.9 headers. No new test failures. 1. I used rpcbind-0.2.1 in the new build, that is not working. I've now got a patch to make strace build again, s

Re: [lfs-dev] Test failures in LFS-7.4-rc on i686

2013-08-22 Thread Ken Moffat
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 01:13:45AM +0100, Ken Moffat wrote: > On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 06:01:49PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > > Ken Moffat wrote: > > > > > 4. inetutils - > > > Failed at pinging ::1. > > > > Do you have IPv6 enabled in the running kern

Re: [lfs-dev] Test failures in LFS-7.4-rc on i686

2013-08-21 Thread Ken Moffat
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 06:01:49PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Ken Moffat wrote: > > My result is identical. I think it's internal to the math co-processor > hw. I've seen this for years. Noted in the book. > OK, I was on a series of ttys while I looked at the lo

[lfs-dev] Test failures in LFS-7.4-rc on i686

2013-08-21 Thread Ken Moffat
I had a bit of time to look at my logs while the initial backup was running, plus a build failure when one of the tests failed unexpectedly, so I've made a note of everything that failed (this is with a patch for automake, so that didn't fail for me. This was a "by the book" build in as much as

Re: [lfs-dev] CONFIG_SCSI_DEBUG and util-linux testsuite

2013-08-21 Thread Ken Moffat
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 06:01:39PM +0100, Ken Moffat wrote: > I've now got to the end of chroot on my i686 system where > SCSI_DEBUG is NOT set. And I wondered why my initial backup was taking so long. I'd left the util-linux directory around after my previous fun and games o

Re: [lfs-dev] CONFIG_SCSI_DEBUG and util-linux testsuite

2013-08-21 Thread Ken Moffat
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 03:49:33PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Ken Moffat wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 02:35:35PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > >> Ken Moffat wrote: > >> > >> Enable cramfs in the kernel. Also minixfs. Make mtab a file. >> /etc/mt

Re: [lfs-dev] CONFIG_SCSI_DEBUG and util-linux testsuite

2013-08-20 Thread Ken Moffat
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 02:35:35PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Ken Moffat wrote: > > Enable cramfs in the kernel. Also minixfs. Make mtab a file. /etc/mtab && touch /etc/mtab) The minix test(s) skip without reporting a failure. Umm, we changed mtab from a file to a symlin

Re: [lfs-dev] CONFIG_SCSI_DEBUG and util-linux testsuite

2013-08-20 Thread Ken Moffat
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 11:10:45AM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Ken Moffat wrote: > > I see you updated util-linux a little while ago. I'm now in xorg, > > running the tests as a regular user: > > bash tests/run.sh --srcdir=$PWD --builddir=$PWD > > sudo

Re: [lfs-dev] CONFIG_SCSI_DEBUG and util-linux testsuite

2013-08-20 Thread Ken Moffat
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 10:55:45AM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > > That's correct. We can't assume that the kernel has SCSI_DEBUG enabled. > > > I'm fine with that, but I wonder if non-root tests really need > > SCSI_DEBUG ? > > No, they don't, but the output should look like: > > http://www.lin

Re: [lfs-dev] CONFIG_SCSI_DEBUG and util-linux testsuite

2013-08-20 Thread Ken Moffat
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 04:39:10PM +0100, Ken Moffat wrote: > > So, I think I need to reconfigure util-linux to run the root tests. > But I'm not quite sure what that will gain, and this build is heading > towards 'production' status (building xorg-server at the moment

Re: [lfs-dev] CONFIG_SCSI_DEBUG and util-linux testsuite

2013-08-20 Thread Ken Moffat
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 03:09:43PM +0100, Ken Moffat wrote: > The non-regression tests show all 0 tests passed. > > Of the regression tests, all 113 are shown as passing, but of those > many have IGNORE (not root permissions) and mcookie reported 'cannot > open /etc/servi

Re: [lfs-dev] CONFIG_SCSI_DEBUG and util-linux testsuite

2013-08-20 Thread Ken Moffat
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 05:14:03PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Ken Moffat wrote: > > I'm about to do an almost [1] "by the book" build (-j1, keep static libs > > until > > the end of chapter 6 which should at least make more of the ld tests >

Re: [lfs-dev] CONFIG_SCSI_DEBUG and util-linux testsuite

2013-08-19 Thread Ken Moffat
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 05:14:03PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Ken Moffat wrote: > > I'm about to do an almost [1] "by the book" build (-j1, keep static libs > > until > > the end of chapter 6 which should at least make more of the ld tests >

[lfs-dev] CONFIG_SCSI_DEBUG and util-linux testsuite

2013-08-19 Thread Ken Moffat
I'm about to do an almost [1] "by the book" build (-j1, keep static libs until the end of chapter 6 which should at least make more of the ld tests pass) so I rebuild my kernel to add CONFIG_SCSI_DEBUG=y. Disaster : /dev/sda showed up with no partitions, all my partitions previously on /dev/sda w

Re: [lfs-dev] LFS Package Currency Check - 2013-08-13

2013-08-18 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 06:56:35PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > > My system is a 3 GHz core2duo, but I always do the timing for the books > in a single thread for consistency and for the log to be coherent. Most > builds are in the 1 SBU range or less, but there are some really long > ones too.

Re: [lfs-dev] LFS Package Currency Check - 2013-08-13

2013-08-18 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 02:03:37PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > > The recommendation is because it takes too much time (over an hour on my > system) and the tests are pretty much valueless. I agree that, other > than time, they cause no harm. As a developer, I do run them (so users > don't need

Re: [lfs-dev] LFS Package Currency Check - 2013-08-13

2013-08-18 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 03:22:07AM +0100, Ken Moffat wrote: > On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 08:39:57PM +0100, Matt Burgess wrote: > > On Tue, 2013-08-13 at 15:00 -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > > > > > 103-automake:FAIL: t/primary-prefix-invalid-couples.tap 280 - ... and > >

Re: [lfs-dev] LFS Package Currency Check - 2013-08-13

2013-08-17 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 08:39:57PM +0100, Matt Burgess wrote: > On Tue, 2013-08-13 at 15:00 -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > > > 103-automake:FAIL: t/primary-prefix-invalid-couples.tap 280 - ... and > > with the same diagnostic of 'automake -a' > > 103-automake:# FAIL: 1 > > I've just hit this one a

Re: [lfs-dev] LFS Package Freeze and some discussion

2013-08-15 Thread Ken Moffat
On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 05:43:37PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > > This worked for me. I deleted bison, lex, and flex from /usr/bin and > then built flex: > > sed -i -e '/test-bison/d' tests/Makefile.in > ./configure --prefix=/usr \ > --docdir=/usr/share/doc/flex-2.5.37 > make > make

Re: [lfs-dev] LFS Package Freeze and some discussion

2013-08-15 Thread Ken Moffat
On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 04:00:01PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Ken Moffat wrote: > >> bison. 1 failure. > >> CXX examples/calc++/examples_calc___calc__-calc++-scanner.o > >> g++: error: ./examples/calc++/calc++-scanner.cc: No such file or directory > &g

Re: [lfs-dev] LFS Package Freeze and some discussion

2013-08-15 Thread Ken Moffat
On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 11:06:45AM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > I'd like to do a package freeze today in preparation for LFS-7.4. > > Right now I'm not sure whether to to generate a rc1 or not. There are > several tests that fail that we may want to 1) Note, 2) Patch, or 3) > Ignore. Below is m

Re: [lfs-dev] LFS Package Currency Check - 2013-08-13

2013-08-13 Thread Ken Moffat
On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 09:31:15PM +0100, Matt Burgess wrote: > On Tue, 2013-08-13 at 15:00 -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > > > 086-util-linux:make[1]: make[4]: *** [check] Error 2*** > > [check-local-tests] Terminated > > Ah, good. I just hit that one in last night's build. It's in > misc/fallocat

Re: [lfs-dev] LFS Package Currency Check - 2013-08-13

2013-08-13 Thread Ken Moffat
On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 03:00:13PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > > 107-flex:Test test-bison-yylloc FAILED. See test-bison-yylloc/OUTPUT for > details. > 107-flex:Test test-bison-yylval FAILED. See test-bison-yylval/OUTPUT for > details. > [...] > > 093-bison:make[4]: *** > [examples/calc++/exam

Re: [lfs-dev] LFS Package Currency Check - 2013-08-13

2013-08-13 Thread Ken Moffat
On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 07:46:25PM +0100, Ken Moffat wrote: > On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 09:31:23PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > > bdu...@linuxfromscratch.org wrote: > > > Package LFS Upstream Flag > > > > > glibc 2.17 2.18 * >

Re: [lfs-dev] LFS Package Currency Check - 2013-08-13

2013-08-13 Thread Ken Moffat
On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 09:31:23PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > bdu...@linuxfromscratch.org wrote: > > Package LFS Upstream Flag > > > glibc 2.17 2.18 * > > perl5.18.0 5.18.1 * > > Two relatively important packages just changed. Looking at the c

Re: [lfs-dev] gmp ABI=32

2013-08-12 Thread Ken Moffat
On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 08:05:26PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Ken Moffat wrote: > >> > > I'll also note that most of my non-LFS linux experience is with the > > kernel. So, I know that documentation is not to be trusted. > > > > Maybe the bash ver

Re: [lfs-dev] gmp ABI=32

2013-08-12 Thread Ken Moffat
On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 01:38:19AM +0100, Ken Moffat wrote: > On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 07:25:01PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > > > > This is quite odd. I assume you are using bash. The man page clearly says: > > > > SHELL GRAMMAR > > Simple Commands > >

Re: [lfs-dev] gmp ABI=32

2013-08-12 Thread Ken Moffat
On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 07:25:01PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Ken Moffat wrote: > > Please treat this with the proverbial pinch of salt - my > > buildscripts can't build bison-3.0 on either x86_64 or i686, so it > > is possible that something in them is also br

[lfs-dev] gmp ABI=32

2013-08-12 Thread Ken Moffat
Please treat this with the proverbial pinch of salt - my buildscripts can't build bison-3.0 on either x86_64 or i686, so it is possible that something in them is also breaking this. But ... Trying to build i686 svn (from LFS-7.2) on a machine capable of 64-bits, gmp failed with ABI=32: command

Re: [lfs-dev] Bug in 7.3 book - kbd and locales

2013-04-23 Thread Ken Moffat
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 01:17:36PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Ken Moffat wrote: > > > > With the exception of vi_VN and zh_CN those all render in my > > console with my LatGrkCyr font. Vietnamese can work, but you won't > > get much else except english fr

Re: [lfs-dev] Bug in 7.3 book - kbd and locales

2013-04-23 Thread Ken Moffat
On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 03:57:28PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > > I've already tried a DESTDIR install and it seems to work there. > > I'm not sure we need the --datadir entry at all. Mounts are done before > any kbd programs are called, so having the support files in /usr > shouldn't be a prob

Re: [lfs-dev] Bug in 7.3 book - kbd and locales

2013-04-22 Thread Ken Moffat
On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 03:29:23PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > > The problem is that the location of the locale files ends up being > embedded in the executable. > > bindtextdomain(PACKAGE_NAME, LOCALEDIR); > > Where src/nls.h has > > #ifndef LOCALEDIR > #define LOCALEDIR "/usr/share/locale" >

Re: [lfs-dev] Bug in 7.3 book - kbd and locales

2013-04-22 Thread Ken Moffat
On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 12:34:35PM -0700, Alice Wonder wrote: > I didn't see this mentioned in errata so I don't know if it has been > noted yet or not. > > http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/stable/chapter06/kbd.html > > The instructions have > > ./configure --prefix=/usr --datadir=/lib/k

Re: [lfs-dev] LFS will need bc.

2013-04-05 Thread Ken Moffat
On Mon, Apr 01, 2013 at 06:49:25PM +0100, Ken Moffat wrote: > I'd seen comments on the kernel list about bc being required in > 3.9, and then forgotten about them (on my desktops I have it anyway, > for xscreensaver). It gets used for kernel/timeconst.h > https://patchwork

[lfs-dev] LFS will need bc.

2013-04-01 Thread Ken Moffat
I'd seen comments on the kernel list about bc being required in 3.9, and then forgotten about them (on my desktops I have it anyway, for xscreensaver). It gets used for kernel/timeconst.h https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/2143611/ Now I'm just doing a fresh 7.3 install to test some changes I p

[lfs-dev] my test results from letting current svn build itself

2013-02-28 Thread Ken Moffat
Further comments on other testsuites. This is with current LFS-svn (linux-3.8.0, file-5.13, and Bruce's suggestions for using the shipped info files from gcc, plus eudev instead of Bruce's continuing efforts to tame udev from systemd). Much as expected. This time in glibc I got Error 1 from n

Re: [lfs-dev] procps-ng test failures, and other tests

2013-02-28 Thread Ken Moffat
On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 05:51:30PM -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > > I'm not sure. The base code has: > > set pmap "${topdir}pmap" > set pmap_initname "1:\\s+\\S+\[^\\r\]+\\s+" > ... > set test "pmap X with unreachable process" > spawn $pmap -X 1 > expect_pass $test "$pmap_initname\$" > > The sed r

Re: [lfs-dev] procps-ng test failures, and other tests

2013-02-28 Thread Ken Moffat
On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 08:51:37PM -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Ken Moffat wrote: > > The interesting part of the log is: > > > > Running ./pgrep.test/pgrep.exp ... > > ERROR: tcl error sourcing ./pgrep.test/pgrep.exp. > > ERROR: can't read "tty": n

Re: [lfs-dev] procps-ng test failures, and other tests

2013-02-27 Thread Ken Moffat
On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 03:08:18AM +, Ken Moffat wrote: > > - not my main problem at the moment - I'm now running it, but nfs > (with updates) isn't working. Adding an /etc/netconfig (!) sort of > helps, but rpcbind still isn't working. I'm seeing > rpc

Re: [lfs-dev] procps-ng test failures, and other tests

2013-02-27 Thread Ken Moffat
On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 08:51:37PM -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Ken Moffat wrote: > > On my build of approximately 7.3 I got 4 failures in the procps > > tests. Pierre has fixed two of them (slabtop), but now that I've > > finished a minimal desktop I wanted to t

[lfs-dev] procps-ng test failures, and other tests

2013-02-27 Thread Ken Moffat
On my build of approximately 7.3 I got 4 failures in the procps tests. Pierre has fixed two of them (slabtop), but now that I've finished a minimal desktop I wanted to try to understand the other two before I try to prove it can build itself [ _without_ analyzing if it is bitwise the same, I've l

Re: [lfs-dev] texinfo - inetutils

2013-02-26 Thread Ken Moffat
On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 06:43:56PM -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Ken Moffat wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 05:34:06PM -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > >> > >> The real question is why does your make wants to build html files? I > >> have no reference to them a

Re: [lfs-dev] texinfo - inetutils

2013-02-26 Thread Ken Moffat
On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 05:34:06PM -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > > The real question is why does your make wants to build html files? I > have no reference to them at all. > >-- Bruce Thanks. On the host (texinfo-4.13) it doesn't seem to reference them. I'll compare the logs. ĸen -- das

[lfs-dev] texinfo - inetutils

2013-02-26 Thread Ken Moffat
Did I miss a fix for inetutils ? Apparently it installs fine for everyone who has used it, but I'm seeing this during 'make install': make: Entering directory `/building/inetutils-1.9.1/doc' rm -rf inetutils.htp if /bin/sh /building/inetutils-1.9.1/build-aux/missing --run makeinfo --html -I .

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