KR>Re: The 'Plans' Quandary

2022-01-17 Thread Kieran Shanley
Hey everyone, Apologies in advance for perpetuating the great "Plan's Quandary" thread. As I understand things Janette Rand feels that selling plans will expose her to legal liability and doesn't want to allow plans to be sold. In an ideal world we would try and setup a non-profit that could take

KR>Re: The 'Plans' Quandary

2022-01-17 Thread Phillip Matheson
Glassing a cowl to finish off my KR2Ss. 0200 engine. And completing paperwork for the CofA. Photo Sent from my iPhone > On 18 Jan 2022, at 11:43, kiwi faulkner wrote: > > Yes indeed Phillip. > > All of these aircraft have 'evolved' from someone else's idea. Ken Rand and > Stu Robinson b

KR>An Apology to All

2022-01-17 Thread kiwi faulkner
Kia Ora Please excuse my previous email to Philip which, due to my own stupidity, was copied out over the ether instead of being addressed solely to him. Therefore, I offer an apology to those of a sensitive disposition and possibly offended by any terms which we in the Antipodes consider forma

KR>Re: The 'Plans' Quandary

2022-01-17 Thread kiwi faulkner
Yes indeed Phillip. All of these aircraft have 'evolved' from someone else's idea. Ken Rand and Stu Robinson borrowed heavily from John Taylor's Monoplane - something that Terry Taylor (John's son) is still pissed about. What are you working on now? Kiwi From

KR>Re: KR/PLANS/PARTS ETC.

2022-01-17 Thread Luis Claudio via KRnet
George: I talk to Marc quite often but I have not talked to him about this idea because I am not ready yet. Marc is an awesome person and I really appreciate him. I met him at the last KR gathering and we have become good friends.  As for the KR business acquisition, I'll leave it at that for n

KR>Re: "new generation" improvements over the KR "factory" airplane

2022-01-17 Thread Flesner
On 1/17/2022 5:00 PM, Mark Langford wrote: Widen fuselage at the pilot's shoulders to about 36"  (bend sides slowly, over time, widening bottom same amount. + pick a size that works but keeping the fuselage width the sa

KR>"new generation" improvements over the KR "factory" airplane

2022-01-17 Thread Mark Langford
An abbreviated list of modifications to create a "new generation" KR-like airplane from KR2S plans is below, for those who are building and wonder what changes have become the "standard" for the newest generation of KRs such as Mike Sylvester's, Robert Pesak, Roger Baalman, Chris Pryce, and oth

KR>Re: Freebird working group.

2022-01-17 Thread Flesner
On 1/17/2022 1:41 PM, Mark Langford wrote:  For the moment, I'm considering path forward options, and will get back to you when it's firmed up a bit more.  I am committed to getting this job done though, and will be communicating with others for assistance as needed. +

KR>Re: Corvair engine applicability

2022-01-17 Thread donald january
You want the 164 ci block not the 145 ci because of rod size and crank number. I have heard 145 ci converted successfully on Pietenpol aircraft. Heads numbers are a area to keep a close eye on in a conversion On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 1:32 PM Kayak wrote: > on that topic, are any corvair engines a

KR>Re: Corvair engine applicability

2022-01-17 Thread Mark Langford
"Kayak" wrote: > on that topic, are any corvair engines appropriate or only certain years, > versions? I have a fraind with a salvage yard. he doesnt have any corvairs > but if he gets one I want to know if yanking the engine would be worth it > and which ones if any, dont apply to a KR... If

KR>Re: Freebird working group.

2022-01-17 Thread Mark Langford
Craig Williams wrote: > Mark L is absolutely correct as if that needed to be said. Mark in no way needs to do this alone. I would suggest we put together a working group to get the job done.< Thanks Craig, I appreciate the offer. For the moment, I'm considering path forward options, and w

KR>Corvair engine applicability

2022-01-17 Thread Kayak
on that topic, are any corvair engines appropriate or only certain years, versions? I have a fraind with a salvage yard. he doesnt have any corvairs but if he gets one I want to know if yanking the engine would be worth it and which ones if any, dont apply to a KR... thanks for any info On Mon,

KR>Re: Freebird and MOSAIC

2022-01-17 Thread Kayak
That would be nice. I believe that my KR1 (with most of the longer KR2 wing skins) and if fixed gear, will be LSA spec. Of course I can just stay with the new BsicMed which I qualify for, and have retracts and even a in-flight variable prop (and night flight), so its a toss up. If they bump up LS

KR>Re: Freebird and MOSAIC

2022-01-17 Thread patrick
This could be timely. IIRC, Sept. 2023 is the "drop dead" date for FAA to roll out the MOSAIC rewrite of Part 23. There's a lot of hope rolling around EAA and LAMA that the LSA category will be expanded. Of course, the distinct possibility exists that nothing will change regarding LSA; FAA b

KR>Re: The 'Plans' Quandary

2022-01-17 Thread Kayak
(leaving Mark's entire text in for context) Thats great Mark and your time commitment can be whatever you wish it to be. I bet you could be a traffic cop (coordinator) role between the other talent generating the sections with an acceptable to you commitment. I have my KR1 plans (and a completed

KR>Freebird working group.

2022-01-17 Thread Craig Williams
All Mark L is absolutely correct as if that needed to be said. Mark in no way needs to do this alone. I would suggest we put together a working group to get the job done. To start that off I think maybe a zoom call for those interested to discuss what talents we each can bring to the table a

KR>Re: The 'Plans' Quandary

2022-01-17 Thread donald january
👍👍 On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 8:51 AM Mark Langford wrote: > > We all know that plans are virtually impossible to obtain now, other > than from other builders who either never finished an airplane and have > an "un-used" set, or copy and send a copy to new builders. I'm not > thrilled with the tho

KR>Re: KR 2 plans

2022-01-17 Thread donald january
Plans will become like Corvair engine blocks! Next to impossible to find. I downloaded the complete set back in the day when you could find them on the Net. DJ N40WS KR2 current JT1 builder On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 8:14 AM Flesner wrote: > On 1/16/2022 11:11 PM, John Martindale wrote: > > Buy a s

KR>reminder on posting emails to KRnet

2022-01-17 Thread Mark Langford
KRnet members, I'm way overdue with this reminder, but please do not repost an entire KRnet Digest to the list. It clutters up the archive and makes searching the archive a frustrating exercise (many repeats of the same posts). Delete all previous posts (leaving only the part you are reply

KR>Re: KR 2 plans

2022-01-17 Thread Flesner
On 1/17/2022 8:35 AM, Jamie Lockhart via KRnet wrote: Larry, do you have contacted information for Jeanette ? ++ Yes but I'm not sharing it with anyone.  Jeanette is in her 80's and wants nothing more to do with selling plans.  G

KR>Re: The 'Plans' Quandary

2022-01-17 Thread Mark Langford
We all know that plans are virtually impossible to obtain now, other than from other builders who either never finished an airplane and have an "un-used" set, or copy and send a copy to new builders. I'm not thrilled with the thought of tangling with anybody's team of lawyers, so I'm stayin

KR>Re: KR 2 plans

2022-01-17 Thread Jamie Lockhart via KRnet
Apparently Patrick in the law department set me straight Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 17, 2022, at 10:35 AM, Jamie Lockhart wrote: > > Larry, do you have contacted information for Jeanette ? > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jan 17, 2022, at 10:30 AM, patr...@gmcmotorhome.com wrote: >> >> 

KR>Re: KR 2 plans

2022-01-17 Thread Jamie Lockhart via KRnet
I’m looking for copyright Kr plans if anyone knows of a set Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 17, 2022, at 10:35 AM, Jamie Lockhart wrote: > > Larry, do you have contacted information for Jeanette ? > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jan 17, 2022, at 10:30 AM, patr...@gmcmotorhome.com wrote: >> >

KR>Re: KR 2 plans

2022-01-17 Thread Jamie Lockhart via KRnet
Larry, do you have contacted information for Jeanette ? Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 17, 2022, at 10:30 AM, patr...@gmcmotorhome.com wrote: > > Read this again Jamie. There are no new plans available from Jeanette. > > My take is that Jeanette is in her 90's now and she's done. Apparently,

KR>Re: KR 2 plans

2022-01-17 Thread patrick
Read this again Jamie. There are no new plans available from Jeanette. My take is that Jeanette is in her 90's now and she's done. Apparently, no one in the family is interested in the business. I'm not sure why Jeanette wouldn't sell the rights or transfer them to a foundation. Maybe afte

KR>Re: KR 2 plans

2022-01-17 Thread Jamie Lockhart via KRnet
How does one get a hold of this Jeanette about buying plans ? Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 17, 2022, at 10:14 AM, Flesner wrote: > > On 1/16/2022 11:11 PM, John Martindale wrote: >> Buy a set of plans from Jeanette like the rest of us have. Support her as >> she has us over the decades. > >

KR>KR 2 plans

2022-01-17 Thread Flesner
On 1/16/2022 11:11 PM, John Martindale wrote: Buy a set of plans from Jeanette like the rest of us have. Support her as she has us over the decades. ++ To eliminate any confusion I'll state it one more

KR>Re: Australia rules?

2022-01-17 Thread John Martindale
Geday Tony Agreed but the point is the registration plate irrespective of an initial design or one built from another person's plans must allow unique reference to the construction so it can be traced. One aircraft, one unique plate. Without that plate evidencing bona vide construction details

KR>Re: The 'Plans' Quandary

2022-01-17 Thread Phillip Matheson
Kia Ora Since we are on Kiwi. One that comes to mind built the Morgan aircraft. I meet him when he started out, he gave me my first ride in a KR2S near Sydney. He then made a enlarged KR2Ss and changed its name, then went to Alumimium Aircraft but the kr was his starting point. One was called