Apparently Patrick in the law department set me straight Sent from my iPhone
> On Jan 17, 2022, at 10:35 AM, Jamie Lockhart <jgsl...@icloud.com> wrote: > > Larry, do you have contacted information for Jeanette ? > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jan 17, 2022, at 10:30 AM, patr...@gmcmotorhome.com wrote: >> >> Read this again Jamie. There are no new plans available from Jeanette. >> >> My take is that Jeanette is in her 90's now and she's done. Apparently, no >> one in the family is interested in the business. I'm not sure why Jeanette >> wouldn't sell the rights or transfer them to a foundation. Maybe after her >> demise, the family will do something along those lines. >> >> Patrick >> >>>> On 2022-01-17 09:22, Jamie Lockhart via KRnet wrote: >>> How does one get a hold of this Jeanette about buying plans ? >>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> On Jan 17, 2022, at 10:14 AM, Flesner <fles...@frontier.com> wrote: >>>> On 1/16/2022 11:11 PM, John Martindale wrote: >>>>> Buy a set of plans from Jeanette like the rest of us have. Support her as >>>>> she has us over the decades. >>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>>> To eliminate any confusion I'll state it one more time, directly from >>>> Jeanette rand on 1/16/2022. >>>> No one, including Steve Glover, is authorized by Rand Robinson (Jeanette >>>> Rand) to sell plans created by Rand Robinson to the KR series of aircraft. >>>> Steve Glover never owned the "copyright" but was authorized by Rand to >>>> sell copies of plans produced by Rand. That is no longer the case. >>>> Jeanette's words were "the plans are off the market" and I'm retired". >>>> Jeanette has no problem with Steve selling parts or supporting the design >>>> in any way other than selling plans. >>>> While we may personally agree or disagree with that decision it is the >>>> reality we face. While I personally don't see a great liability issue >>>> given 50 years of KR crashes, deaths, and injuries, without any lawsuits >>>> that I'm aware of, it's not my bank account they would come after. I >>>> suspect it wouldn't be hard to prove that any KR flying was not "built to >>>> plans" to avoid liability but again, I have no skin in the game. >>>> On the other hand I personally see no legal issues in someone selling an >>>> unused set of KR plans. You did not sign away your right of transfer of >>>> personal property and I can sell my entire KR, built to plans, sort of, >>>> if I chose. >>>> Finally, I don't expect to see any legal issues, other than someone >>>> producing and selling new sets of plans, with anything that anyone does >>>> with unused plans they own. What legal issue is being violated? >>>> IMHO...... >>>> I also don't see a problem with someone producing an entirely new set of >>>> plans to a new aircraft incorporating all the changes and calling it a >>>> Gismo 2 and selling those plans. All aircraft have the same parts, wings, >>>> tail, fuselage, spars, landing gear, engines, etc., it's just the >>>> proportions that change. Any substantial change makes it a new and >>>> different aircraft. >>>> Value my "opinions" by the price you paid for them. >>>> Larry Flesner >> ________________________________ >> -Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html >> -Change list delivery options at >> https://list.krnet.org/list/krnet.list.krnet.org/ Affinity List Info Board >> -Search recent KRnet Archives at >> https://list.krnet.org/empathy/list/krnet.list.krnet.org/ >> -Search John Bouyea's decades of archive at >> https://www.mail-archive.com/krnet@list.krnet.org/ ________________________________ -Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html -Change list delivery options at https://list.krnet.org/list/krnet.list.krnet.org/ Affinity List Info Board -Search recent KRnet Archives at https://list.krnet.org/empathy/list/krnet.list.krnet.org/ -Search John Bouyea's decades of archive at https://www.mail-archive.com/krnet@list.krnet.org/
