On Sat, 5 Aug 2000, Annette Stroud wrote:
> > It seems to me that, in the US at least, the liberals wouldn't want to
> > bring this up because it spoils their discrimination rhetoric, while the
> > conservatives wouldn't want to admit that family values were largely
> > responsible for the dispar
On Sat, 5 Aug 2000, Caitlyn M. Martin wrote:
> > > 1) never-married women earned salaries virtually on par with those of
> > > men;
>
> This flies in the face of almost every statistic I read. For example, look
> at Working Woman's annual salary survey. You'll find that, with a few
> except
On Sat, 5 Aug 2000, Christi Rockwell wrote:
> The problem with these studies is they are attributing cause based on
> correlations.
No, actually, they don't.
BTW, do you always make a point of popping up on a lists your ex posts on?
Seems really tacky behavior to me, especially in the middle o
On Mon, 7 Aug 2000, Deirdre Saoirse wrote:
> The fact is that women PENALIZE THEMSELVES and that it is, to a large
> degree, a choice.
I disagree. We are brought up, educated, socialised in a sexist
environment. It pisses me off no end how socialised I have been.
Boys are taught to value them
On Mon, 7 Aug 2000, Alice wrote:
>
> On Mon, 7 Aug 2000, Deirdre Saoirse wrote:
> > The fact is that women PENALIZE THEMSELVES and that it is, to a large
> > degree, a choice.
>
> I disagree. We are brought up, educated, socialised in a sexist
> environment. It pisses me off no end how social
Deirdre Saoirse wrote:
> The fact is that women PENALIZE THEMSELVES and that it is, to a large
> degree, a choice.
The context of your statement is subtle. Would you please expand on this?
Thanks
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Alice wrote:
> ...(a wonderful man who berated me
> for my humility during a project early in my career, and sat me down for a
> couple of hours during a very hectic and late stage in the release
> schedule because I had apologised for failing. He recognised that I felt
> out of my depth and tol
On Mon, 7 Aug 2000, Deirdre Saoirse wrote:
> On Mon, 7 Aug 2000, Alice wrote:
> > I disagree. We are brought up, educated, socialised in a sexist
> > environment. It pisses me off no end how socialised I have been.
>
> Yes, however, the differences between single and married are pretty
> conc
>Where is it you live? One can make more than that at MacDonalds
>or at a comic book store where I live (Denver, USA).
I live in Kitchener, Ontario. I feel fairly safe saying
this, 'cause it's EXTREMELY likely that the only one
from my workplace to ever read this will be Janice(: Not
that my a
Well, I have found this discussion to be very
interesting and I will add my own in here.
First sexism is a social ill so of course women and
men are sexist. I would like to start with the premise that men and women
should be equal, they are different but different doesn't mean better than,
> lou wrote:
> "When women lobby so that men will have a shot of getting custody as
> often
> or to send women to the sanctions they'd gladly send men to for
> failure to
> pay child support "
>
> I'll be there lobbying for that when men are home doing half the
> housework and childcare and aren
On Mon, 7 Aug 2000, lou wrote:
> "believe that nurture (vs. nature) reigns supreme. I do believe that we can
> overcome the handicaps of how we were raised"
>
> The point is that there is a handicap on how we were raised and if you
> have been able to do that, good for you, not everyone has the
On Tue, Aug 08, 2000 at 02:33:57AM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > I'll be there lobbying for that when men are home doing half the
> > housework and childcare and aren't referred to as babysitting their
> > own kids when the mom is out and take days off of work because their
> > kids are sick
After Deidre wrote me:
> You know, your posting to a list [your ex] is on is out of line. I'm not
> reading it, but I'll make a point of posting about you when you post to
> lists she's on.
I changed my mind about posting this. I was going to respect Deidre's list,
but if she's going to slande
> From: Deirdre Saoirse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> The fact is that women PENALIZE THEMSELVES and that it is, to a large
> degree, a choice.
> From: Deirdre Saoirse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> When someone enters and exits the job market, that means they
> need to take
> jobs that don't require consta
I was in an antiques shop yesterday, and got talking to the shop
assistant ... and made a discovery:
She was a programmer back in the punchcard days.
I've semi-invited her to give a talk on her experiences and what
programming was like then, to local user groups. (Now I need to get
in
On Mon, 7 Aug 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> But it got me thinking.. there's an idea for something interesting for
> Linuxchix groups, LUGs, and everything else. Look for the people who
> were programming or engineering with 'puters in the 50's and 60's.
> There'll be some in your community. A
Deirdre Saoirse wrote:
> My mom tells stories of being able to tell whether code was stuck in a
> loop because of the pattern of the flashing lights.
HEY! **I** remeber doing that, darnit. :-P
"Your mom" indeed.
If the loop was tight enough they didn't flash, of course...because they
were
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