On Sun, 24 Oct 1999, Caitlyn M. Martin wrote:
> Brendan/Coolian wrote:
>
> > >or do you think that forcing porn down people's throats is a good
> > >thing? yes... let's desencitize that 74 year old lady trying to pick out a
> > >nice desktop for the computer a young friend is setting up for her
On Sun, 24 Oct 1999, Ingrid Schupbach wrote:
> Ok, after this last piece of brilliance, I think anyone taking the time to
> respond to Brendan seriously is wasting his or her breath.
I might remind those who haven't done so already:
man procmail
If anyone wants a copy of my .procmailrc becaus
Brendan/Coolian wrote:
> >or do you think that forcing porn down people's throats is a good
> >thing? yes... let's desencitize that 74 year old lady trying to pick out a
> >nice desktop for the computer a young friend is setting up for her
>
> Who's saying any of that is happening. Grow some ski
Hi Karl! Hi Brendan!
On 10/24/99, 9:03:56 PM, TeknoDragon wrote:
> On Sun, 24 Oct 1999, Brendan/Coolian wrote:
> > I apologize, but I'm not getting into a pissing contest with
[...]
> from this it looks like you are interested in a "pissing contest"
> and when did I say that? and who's ass am
On Sun, 24 Oct 1999, Brendan/Coolian wrote:
> I apologize, but I'm not getting into a pissing contest with you. I am
> stating what I think...If that makes me "stupid" then so be it. I doubt I
sure, but why do you think this? I've just explained how it's _not_
unrelated to the topic... even
On Sun, 24 Oct 1999, Brendan/Coolian wrote:
> >or do you think that forcing porn down people's throats is a good
> >thing? yes... let's desencitize that 74 year old lady trying to pick out a
> >nice desktop for the computer a young friend is setting up for her (a
> >scenario I know is happening).
> I apologize, but I'm not getting into a pissing contest with you. I am
> stating what I think...If that makes me "stupid" then so be it. I doubt I
> would take advice from someone named "Teknodragon". My name's Brendan,
> talk to me when playtime is over.
Wasn't it you that said in another m
TeknoDragon wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Oct 1999, Brendan/Coolian wrote:
>
> > >Perhaps. But after you hear "women can't do xx" (where xx is usually
> >
> >
> > This is called "transference". Who the hell has said anything about women
> > not being able to do things? We're talking about themes, and s
On Sun, 24 Oct 1999, Brendan/Coolian wrote:
>
> I apologize, but I'm not getting into a pissing contest with you. I am
> stating what I think...If that makes me "stupid" then so be it. I doubt I
> would take advice from someone named "Teknodragon". My name's Brendan,
> talk to me when pla
Brendan/Coolian wrote:
> Why you think I'm some unthinking male "beast", I
> can not say.
Try comments like the next one, as one of the reasons you
appear to come across as trolling and seeking trouble:
> But you obviously have some issues, and need to work them
> out, rather than kissing mor
> >For the record, no one seems to understand any sort of humor. We all
> >seem to be so locked into Politically Correct mode...
>
>Or, more likely, your attempts at humor are just really bad.
I'm definitely not ruling that out.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
>Well since you seem to have a lot of couth...
Oh fun, fun, fun...Not that enjoy being the object of such annoying,
immature angst, but I'm trying to get through all of the emails proclaiming
the author as the most "together", the most sane...I find it so
funny. It's just life people, no rea
>ummm, can you think in more than one direction at once?
I apologize, but I'm not getting into a pissing contest with you. I am
stating what I think...If that makes me "stupid" then so be it. I doubt I
would take advice from someone named "Teknodragon". My name's Brendan,
talk to me when p
>or do you think that forcing porn down people's throats is a good
>thing? yes... let's desencitize that 74 year old lady trying to pick out a
>nice desktop for the computer a young friend is setting up for her (a
>scenario I know is happening)... sure one death from stroke (or at least
>a shocke
On Sat, 23 Oct 1999, Dakota Surmonde wrote:
> not to mention, why do you want to put all 'adult' content in one place?
so that if you want to avoid it you *can*
otherwise you just happen to come across it... when it's too late
like a football game, we put walls and grand stands and big march
On Sat, 23 Oct 1999, Brendan/Coolian wrote:
> Appreciating the female body is sexist, didn't you know?
> None of us have genitals, and if we did, we wouldn't be able to use them.
or we'd have to respect others who might have ideas about sex that aren't
quite the same as us...
or do you think t
On Sat, 23 Oct 1999, Brendan/Coolian wrote:
> >Perhaps. But after you hear "women can't do xx" (where xx is usually
>
>
> This is called "transference". Who the hell has said anything about women
> not being able to do things? We're talking about themes, and scantily-clad
> people in such,
> I already pointed this out and was promptly ignored. Possibly because it
> made sense and didn't give anyone room to argue annoying "I'm an oppressed
> minority in a hard, hard world" points.
Check again. There is no adult section. Someone else pointed that out,
but you seem to have ignored it
> >Perhaps. But after you hear "women can't do xx" (where xx is usually
>
> This is called "transference". Who the hell has said anything about women
> not being able to do things? We're talking about themes, and scantily-clad
> people in such, NOT your built-up angst over somethign random.
We
On Sat, 23 Oct 1999 21:08:01 -0400, Brendan/Coolian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>For the record, no one seems to understand any sort of humor. We all
>seem to be so locked into Politically Correct mode...
Or, more likely, your attempts at humor are just really bad.
Kelly
[EMAIL PRO
On Sat, 23 Oct 1999, Brendan/Coolian wrote:
> For the record, no one seems to understand any sort of humor. We all seem
> to be so locked into Politically Correct mode...
There has been appreciated humor on here, it's mostly that YOU seem to
have a communications problem with other people here
Brendan/Coolian wrote:
>
> >There *is* an Adult section, and anything relating to nakedness is put
> >there. Problem solved. I don't believe its necessary to take it a step
> >further, and tell people not to put images of models in their screenshots.
>
> I already pointed this out and was prompt
Brendan/Coolian wrote:
>
> > > Appreciating the female body is sexist, didn't you know?
> > > None of us have genitals, and if we did, we wouldn't be able to use them.
> >
> >
> >for the record, I don't believe anyone has said this
>
> For the record, no one seems to understand any sort of humor
On Sat, 23 Oct 1999, Brendan/Coolian wrote:
> > > Appreciating the female body is sexist, didn't you know?
> > > None of us have genitals, and if we did, we wouldn't be able to use them.
> >for the record, I don't believe anyone has said this
> For the record, no one seems to understand any sor
On Sat, 23 Oct 1999, Brendan/Coolian wrote:
> If you were paying attention, you would have seen that I wasn't posting
> about "adult" themes either. I was talking about ANY theme with "adult"
> content.
Please re read comments about what the real problems here are...
not to mention, why do y
On Sat, 23 Oct 1999, Brendan/Coolian wrote:
> > > Appreciating the female body is sexist, didn't you know?
> > > None of us have genitals, and if we did, we wouldn't be able to use them.
> >
> >
> >for the record, I don't believe anyone has said this
>
>
> For the record, no one seems to unders
> > Appreciating the female body is sexist, didn't you know?
> > None of us have genitals, and if we did, we wouldn't be able to use them.
>
>
>for the record, I don't believe anyone has said this
For the record, no one seems to understand any sort of humor. We all seem
to be so locked into P
>Actually, the issue that there is an adult section has been brought up and
>discussed many times. The themes we are discussing are not 'adult' themes.
If you were paying attention, you would have seen that I wasn't posting
about "adult" themes either. I was talking about ANY theme with "adul
>What did you think I meant? Fancy borders? Your comment was sort of
>unclear.
It was unclear because it was humor. Or attempting to be such.
Brendan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
On Sat, 23 Oct 1999, Brendan/Coolian wrote:
> I already pointed this out and was promptly ignored. Possibly because it
> made sense and didn't give anyone room to argue annoying "I'm an oppressed
> minority in a hard, hard world" points.
Actually, the issue that there is an adult section has
On Sat, 23 Oct 1999, Brendan/Coolian wrote:
> Appreciating the female body is sexist, didn't you know?
> None of us have genitals, and if we did, we wouldn't be able to use them.
for the record, I don't believe anyone has said this
(though I've been accused of being sexist for *only* appreciat
On Sat, 23 Oct 1999, Brendan/Coolian wrote:
>
> >unfriendly atmosphere if I walk into a place that has girlie pictures all
> >over the walls. I do not think that most places (unless clearly
> >demarcated) that are inviting to both males and females generally have
> >adult pictures plastered up.
>does a model apply (and the model isn't ms. pac man)?
Have you seen her in her lingerie shots?
Oh baby.
Brendan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
>There *is* an Adult section, and anything relating to nakedness is put
>there. Problem solved. I don't believe its necessary to take it a step
>further, and tell people not to put images of models in their screenshots.
I already pointed this out and was promptly ignored. Possibly because it
>(and those of us who LIKE women too) are not allowed to appreciate the
>female body, to take sexy pictures and share them with the world, or
Appreciating the female body is sexist, didn't you know?
None of us have genitals, and if we did, we wouldn't be able to use them.
/You've had a vis
>unfriendly atmosphere if I walk into a place that has girlie pictures all
>over the walls. I do not think that most places (unless clearly
>demarcated) that are inviting to both males and females generally have
>adult pictures plastered up.
Yah, gee, what fun.
"Are those pictures clearly dema
>Perhaps. But after you hear "women can't do xx" (where xx is usually
This is called "transference". Who the hell has said anything about women
not being able to do things? We're talking about themes, and scantily-clad
people in such, NOT your built-up angst over somethign random.
/Yo
I think most people create themes for themselves first. If it turns
out to be something they are proud of, they want to share their work
with others. People make themes of things they want to see on
their computers. If other people like it, cool. Everyone is entitled
to their own art. The
On Fri, 22 Oct 1999, Sio wrote:
> > > Why does everything in the screenshot HAVE to be about the theme?
> >
> > That's what "theme" means.
>
> You are picking out one part of my argument, and playing with the
> semantics.
Actually, no I'm not.
> If you had quoted my next few lines, I made mys
On Fri, 22 Oct 1999, Deirdre Saoirse wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Oct 1999, Sio wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 22 Oct 1999, Nicole Zimmerman wrote:
> >
> > > But why does she *need* to be in the screenshot in the first place if
> > > it's not about her, or something related to her?
> >
> > Why does everything i
On Fri, 22 Oct 1999, Sio wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Oct 1999, Nicole Zimmerman wrote:
>
> > But why does she *need* to be in the screenshot in the first place if
> > it's not about her, or something related to her?
>
> Why does everything in the screenshot HAVE to be about the theme?
That's what "the
Cat wrote:
> >
> > I'm really starting to wonder if people are just being WAY too thin
> > skinned.
> >
> > Do any of you honestly believe that these people (be they men OR women)
> > are putting babes in their screenshots in order to alienate the women in
> > the linux community? Do you believ
> Why does everything in the screenshot HAVE to be about the theme? Isn't
> the purpose of a screenshot to show what the theme looks like while being
> used, rather than what it looks like with a bunch of apps and images put
> there because they relate to the theme? Apps and images that you may no
Hi, Kelly,
>
> No, of course this isn't their intent. It is, however, the effect.
> I'm sure 90+% of the male geeks in the Linux community are completely
> unaware of the impact their inadvertent sexism has on women. That is
> _exactly_ the problem
Thank you for putting what I've been trying to
> As someone earlier pointed out, the images that people are complaining
> about are not "adult" images. Adult images implies nudity, and possibly
> sexual act portrayal. Mostly just the suggestion of sexual acts. The
> images we frequently see on theme screenshots are of movie stars, models
> and
On Fri, 22 Oct 1999, Nicole Zimmerman wrote:
> But why does she *need* to be in the screenshot in the first place if
> it's not about her, or something related to her?
Why does everything in the screenshot HAVE to be about the theme? Isn't
the purpose of a screenshot to show what the theme look
On Fri, 22 Oct 1999, Cat wrote:
> Actually, no, I don't believe that they are doing it for shock value or to
> get a rise out of me. If that were the case, it would bespeak an
> understanding that those types of images CAN be construed as having shock
> value or that there is some reason they w
On Fri, 22 Oct 1999 11:17:11 -0700, Nicole Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>I think there are tasteful places to put pictures of nekkid/scantily
>clad women and make it look *good* and/or make the theme look more
>interesting/appealing.
Quite a bit of my art involves partially or unclothed w
On Fri, 22 Oct 1999 11:55:47 -0600 (MDT), Sio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>Do any of you honestly believe that these people (be they men OR
>women) are putting babes in their screenshots in order to alienate
>the women in the linux community? Do you believe they are doing it
>for shock value? To ge
> I'm really starting to wonder if people are just being WAY too thin
> skinned.
Perhaps. But after you hear "women can't do xx" (where xx is usually
something technical or "male-oriented") or something similar, you start
to get more offensive than defensive, finding the problem before the
proble
>
> I'm really starting to wonder if people are just being WAY too thin
> skinned.
>
> Do any of you honestly believe that these people (be they men OR women)
> are putting babes in their screenshots in order to alienate the women in
> the linux community? Do you believe they are doing it for s
On Fri, 22 Oct 1999, Michelle wrote:
> Seriously, though... I'm sure that the random porn in these themes is making
> some women feel alienated. If the theme is all about porn, I guess that's
> one thing - there is that demographic that just loves that sort of thing
> but to display a beaut
Forgive me for being slightly off-topic on this one, but while I've been
reading all the comments on this thread, I've been constantly remembering a
conversation I had with my sister a year or so ago, in reference to her
boyfriend's X-rated screen saver... and giggling. So I thought I'd share it
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