On Fri, 22 Oct 1999, Michelle wrote:

> Seriously, though... I'm sure that the random porn in these themes is making
> some women feel alienated.  If the theme is all about porn, I guess that's
> one thing - there is that demographic that just loves that sort of thing....
> but to display a beautiful but not-quite-so-clothed woman in an otherwise
> benign theme for the sake of shock value isn't really necessary.  I'm glad
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> this has been brought up and discussed, it's something I had just sort of
> accepted and not really thought too deeply about.  It's not anywhere near
> the sort of alienation of women I ran into when I was into carpentry and
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> welding... but it is there.

I'm really starting to wonder if people are just being WAY too thin
skinned. 

Do any of you honestly believe that these people (be they men OR women)
are putting babes in their screenshots in order to alienate the women in
the linux community? Do you believe they are doing it for shock value? To
get a rise out of you?

Ok, sure, there are likely a few people who are doing it for those
reasons. I disbelieve that these people are the majority, and I would be
taken aback to find out that you guys are upset because you think they are
doing all of this on purpose. Granted, I firmly believe that most people
suck. However, I think it would be beyond ridiculous to state that these
images are put there for any purpose other than the innocent "She's a
babe, and would look cool in this screenshot" reason. 

All of this starts me thinking back to my belief that people have become
SO worked up over objectification of women, that ANYTHING representing
gorgeous women in little clothing is deemed offensive. It feels like men
(and those of us who LIKE women too) are not allowed to appreciate the
female body, to take sexy pictures and share them with the world, or to
put images of them in advertizing and movies. YES, objectification is a
problem. However, all images of scantily clad women are NOT
objectification. 

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