Re: [FRIAM] Can current AI beat humans at doing science?

Nah. The thing that will drive academic scientists extinct within a semester is when google reveals AlphaGrant. Our world is not the one Simon and Newall lived in. The worth of an idea today is determined entirely and exclusively by what dollar value the proponent can fetch with it at the baz

Re: [FRIAM] Can current AI beat humans at doing science?

Could I revive within me Her symphony and song To such deep delight ’twould win me That with music loud and long I would build that pleasure dome in air That sunny dome, those caves of ice etc. etc. > On Jul 21, 2021, at 8:41 AM, Frank Wimberly wrote: > > When I was in the Robotics Institute (no

Re: [FRIAM] MM implies (*)

That’s interesting, Jon, I completely failed to put 2 and 2 together to realize that Starbird is a name I know from UT days, though I had never met him. I guess because I was not a math major during the time I was there, I had only very few contacts in the math department, and never happened t

Re: [FRIAM] off-label technologies, exaptatiion and exponential technological growth.

Hi Frank, Only because Marcus responded…. This article https://ourfiniteworld.com/2021/08/05/covid-19-vaccines-dont-really-work-as-hoped/ Isn’t a good start. I didn’t read the whole thing, so I will confine my

Re: [FRIAM] off-label technologies, exaptatiion and exponential technological growth.

It is quite something. How about the Navajo Nation in NM and AZ, and even the counties surrounding them. They have it together. I had heard from a few sources that in much of the S and SW, it was only on the reservations that you saw serious and consistent measures taken to provide for public

Re: [FRIAM] off-label technologies, exaptatiion and exponential technological growth.

go. > > Again, i appreciate the time you spent on this. > > Frank > > > > > > --- > Frank C. Wimberly > 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, > Santa Fe, NM 87505 > > 505 670-9918 > Santa Fe, NM > > On Sun, Aug 8, 2021, 2:26 AM David Eric Smith <mailto

Re: [FRIAM] off-label technologies, exaptatiion and exponential technological growth.

not lazy, I > could find and download the data and make my own histogram. > > > Well, if it is only five times, then what is really the POINT? > Let’s tell Rand Paul about these gross exaggerations ASAP! > > Thanks, > > Marcus > > From: Friam mailto:fria

Re: [FRIAM] off-label technologies, exaptatiion and exponential technological growth.

Thank you Glen! Eric > On Aug 12, 2021, at 12:06 AM, uǝlƃ ☤>$ wrote: > > Attached. > > Missing Arkansas, Connecticut, Florida, Hawaii, Iowa, Kansas, Maryland, > Missouri, New York, Pennsylvania, West Virginia, Wyoming. > > On 8/10/21 4:43 PM, David Eric Smith wro

Re: [FRIAM] (no subject)

Nicely written article, on a thing we have been looking forward to for a while. Would be interesting to look at this state under Lorentz transforms, given that it is spatially localized and using Anderson’s asymptotically-total internal reflection to create a specially ordered pattern (if I unde

Re: [FRIAM] ivermectin, nope

You know what’s fun in this, is the window it gives on the sources of people’s finding things compelling: what G.C. Rota called “the unthematized” in his writings on phenomenology (philosopher’s sense, not science usage). If so many Eastern traditions hadn’t built up such a sense that all this w

Re: [FRIAM] ivermectin, nope

> On Aug 16, 2021, at 3:08 AM, Steve Smith wrote: > I understand Hydroxychloroquine to have been used widely in developing > (equatorial) countries as an antiviral (in particular Malaria) \ > Not antiviral, Steve. Plasmodium isn’t even a bacterium; it is a protozoan. One of us, gooble gobbl

Re: [FRIAM] vax v unvax

This is one that it would be nice to see broken down by age and other conditions. If unvaxxed hospitalizations are a true “cross section of America” (like jury duty), whereas the vaxxed ones are mainly old or sick with something else, that would be an important variable for deriving a risk prof

Re: [FRIAM] vax v unvax

le; smaller social networks > and lower spatial density. And further they attach themselves to these crazy > ideas because no one ever has the opportunity to push back except people that > go way out of their way like Glen. > > -Original Message- > From: Friam mailto:f

Re: [FRIAM] vax v unvax

r social networks > and lower spatial density. And further they attach themselves to these crazy > ideas because no one ever has the opportunity to push back except people that > go way out of their way like Glen. > > -Original Message- > From: Friam mailto:friam-b

Re: [FRIAM] vax v unvax

to:wimber...@gmail.com>> wrote: > So that's why I'm feeling uneasy as I approach 80. 😐 > > > > > --- > Frank C. Wimberly > 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, > Santa Fe, NM 87505 > > 505 670-9918 > Santa Fe, NM > > On Wed, Aug 18, 2021, 5:38 PM

Re: [FRIAM] Medical treatments for some or for all

> On Aug 20, 2021, at 1:31 AM, Jochen Fromm wrote: > > The governor of Texas, Greg Abbott, has tested positive for the virus, > although he is fully vaccinated. He has no symptoms but receives the same > $100,000 Regeneron treatment as Donald Trump, maybe because he sits in a > wheelchair a

Re: [FRIAM] Medical treatments for some or for all

There is an angle on this that I have wondered about. In a sort of short-term sense, it would have been very gratifying for SARS-CoV-2 to have killed trump. You know that tired trope: God is dead — Nietzche Nietzsche is dead — God Same idea. But as I think of it, I think that

Re: [FRIAM] Medical treatments for some or for all

So Marcus, Your response is interesting. What I was thinking of as the inflammation was BLM, or the fact that the Georgia organizers were able to get enough voters out to get all three of Biden, Warnock, and Ossof into office, which even with their same heroic efforts over years I don’t think

Re: [FRIAM] Medical treatments for some or for all

Thanks Steve, I hadn’t heard about this latest little bit of lunacy. Marcus is right; what must the guy’s life be like that, to very likely end up in jail for not really anything seemed like a good idea? Martin Scheffer ought to be all over this, with his “early warning signals”, using analys

Re: [FRIAM] Medical treatments for some or for all

, particularly to the quorum sensing >> conception, are latent variables in causal inference and neutral networks in >> evolution. Rebecca's recent video essay on leaky vaccines may also ring some >> bells: https://youtu.be/_J-zWtoG9ZM, which seems akin to the relationship

Re: [FRIAM] Eternal questions

Nick, what’s the difference between having and doing? I once heard Ray Jackendoff give quite a nice talk on word categories. Of all of it, the one part I remember the most about is what he said about prepositions. Even after you are getting right most of the rest of word usage in a new langua

Re: [FRIAM] Eternal questions

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Re: [FRIAM] Eternal questions

liary verb and the latter > denotes possession. > > --- > Frank C. Wimberly > 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, > Santa Fe, NM 87505 > > 505 670-9918 > Santa Fe, NM > > On Tue, Aug 24, 2021, 5:48 AM David Eric Smith <mailto:desm...@santafe.edu>> wrote: > It’s the right

Re: [FRIAM] Eternal questions

orld through > our minds, or do we see our minds through the world? > > > > Nick > > > > > > > > Nick Thompson > > thompnicks...@gmail.com <mailto:thompnicks...@gmail.com> > https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ > <h

Re: [FRIAM] Eternal questions

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Re: [FRIAM] Kill it!

> Note: Some beehives have a defense, they clump around the scout in a buzzing > ball, and though many in the ball lose their heads, collectively they raise > the temperature of the hornet scout and "cook" it. It doesn't release > enough pheromone such that the other hornets follow up. All, d

Re: [FRIAM] Eternal questions

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Re: [FRIAM] On the: RLY!? side

Two thoughts on your below, Jochen, which seem to me to belong in the list along with what you have: 1. If we don’t care what they called it — “element” — then the question is, were the classical Greeks as right as one could be at the time? We now use the word “element” to refer to a Mendeleev

Re: [FRIAM] On the: RLY!? side

Those who seek cooperative or collaborative support, jointly generated, from others, should explain themselves to all as contributing a part of the joint effort, collaboration, and mutual responsibility. The same argument applies to not being exploitative in wage negotiations, poisoning backyar

Re: [FRIAM] aversive learning

There’s a statistic I would like to see, but would be costly to collect and encounter ethics troubles (withholding of known help), so will probably not be available. For 2-shot vaccines, it is considered important that the second shot be the same formula as the first. Reason being that we buil

Re: [FRIAM] aversive learning

> On Sep 1, 2021, at 11:41 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > > I was made to take piano lessons for five years. I did minimal practice, but > still hated it and the idea of it. I can’t do it all now, and don’t wish I > could. Don’t tell me what is important. I will prioritize what I want. I am

Re: [FRIAM] aversive learning

essage- > From: Friam On Behalf Of David Eric Smith > Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 2:37 PM > To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] aversive learning > > There’s a statistic I would like to see, but would be costly to collect a

Re: [FRIAM] aversive learning

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Re: [FRIAM] aversive learning

th even when it wasn't the > mathematician's purpose. > > > --- > Frank C. Wimberly > 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, > Santa Fe, NM 87505 > > 505 670-9918 > Santa Fe, NM > > On Wed, Sep 1, 2021, 6:55 PM David Eric Smith <mailto:desm...@santafe.edu>>

Re: [FRIAM] Liberal dilemmas

I am amazed that the total extraction is only 85,000 tons/year now. If all vehicular transportation does go Li or Li-ion battery-based, we really should be planning for all this to be integrated with demand-buffering of the grid. No reason to build a completely separate parallel buffer bank u

Re: [FRIAM] Can empirical discoveries be mathematical?

Please allow me to try to make things worse, if I can. I worry that I may be partly responsible for the origin of this thread, in my jabs at the analytical philosophers, who I think are responsible for…. No, wait; I won’t start that again. In any case, I read Nick’s post as a good-faith effort

Re: [FRIAM] gen'fur

Aha! This is why Iceland has the highest per-capita fraction of published authors in the world. I had assumed it was the weather…. > On Sep 10, 2021, at 2:17 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > > That can be screened as well with a large population-wide survey such has > been done in the UK or Icela

Re: [FRIAM] Could this possibly be true?

Pieter, On its own, I don’t think the statement means anything. You have to know what the cohort was and what the null model was. I think that in all these trials, to be seeking approval for multiple age groups, they must have tested in multiple age groups as well. Sometimes old people die,

Re: [FRIAM] Could this possibly be true?

Yes, I wondered if anyone else enjoyed that as much as I did. > On Sep 17, 2021, at 1:15 AM, Roger Critchlow wrote: > > sum(reasons_for_death) != number_of_deaths, and Death itself is listed as a > reported cause of death. > > -- rec -- > > On Thu, Sep 16, 2021 at 12:01 PM Pieter Steenekamp

Re: [FRIAM] Could this possibly be true?

> On Sep 17, 2021, at 1:28 AM, > wrote: > > Would any of you buy a seat belt that was marketed to not cause deaths? You > are so lost in your point about small numbers that you’ve lost your sense of > the plain meaning of words. Sheesh! Yes. Like “goal”. And “function”. I pass judgmen

Re: [FRIAM] Could this possibly be true?

This is where there is a style of use of language that may be unique to Nick among all humans, or may be a tribal custom among the psychologists, but which the common man needs to be aware exists, so that he knows that the way Nick/psychologists use words will be directly opposed to the way the

Re: [FRIAM] Could this possibly be true?

I was young > > --- > Frank C. Wimberly > 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, > Santa Fe, NM 87505 > > 505 670-9918 > Santa Fe, NM > > On Thu, Sep 16, 2021, 3:32 PM David Eric Smith <mailto:desm...@santafe.edu>> wrote: > This is where there is a style of use of l

Re: [FRIAM] Could this possibly be true?

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Re: [FRIAM] the cancellation arc

Quick answer to your specific question below, Steve. Whether or not it says more about the concept or about my accidental window on it, of course, I cannot know. But to me, the cleanest example of a true epiphenomenon is the way neoclassical economics in its pure Arrow-Debreu form treats instit

Re: [FRIAM] Could this possibly be true?

es >>> above. >>> >>> Frankly, you shouldn’t have any faith that my average psychology colleague >>> will rescue me. 90% of them, directly or indirectly, make their living off >>> The Hard Problem. >>> >>> EricC and JonZ might d

Re: [FRIAM] the cancellation arc

What do you call a Jewish Uber driver in Texas who takes women to clinics, because an upstander accepts danger and difficulty? An Uber-mensch. > On Sep 18, 2021, at 2:20 AM, Steve Smith wrote: > > >> More mob justice: >> >> US rightwing group targets academics with Professor Watchlist >> h

Re: [FRIAM] unplanned [sen|obsol]escence

That might be where the Havana syndrome is coming from. There actually are microwave-powered agents stalking these various CIA, and they need to recharge in situ from time to time, with a little sideband cooking of the biologicals in the beamline. > On Sep 23, 2021, at 5:17 AM, Marcus Daniels

Re: [FRIAM] ivermectin

So the Monbiot article below is really interesting. Let me put in the link to a pdf (I don’t know whether legitimate or in violation of some paywall) to an article I mentioned before: https://campus.albion.edu/gcocks/files/2013/08/Fascinating-Fascism.pdf

Re: [FRIAM] Advertents and Inadvertents

Hi Nick, Sorry to be slow. A dozen branches on the exchange so far in which it would be nice to engage, but I have to forego almost-all those. There may not be much I can offer to the question you ask below, even by way of opinion. My general take is that if somebody wants to build something,

Re: [FRIAM] unplanned [sen|obsol]escence

Yes, this seems really important to me: > That "antifa affiliated" guy who shot Tiny is probably susceptible to peer > pressure to *stop* carrying his gun to town, much like the Proud Boys coach > their participants not to start fights and always cooperate with the cops. > The more organized An

Re: [FRIAM] ivermectin

of the Nazis, often at midnight. Hitler's dogs, Hitler's drugs, Hitler's home > in Austria, etc. For me it feels as if the past is haunting us. There might > be a psychological aspect behind (collective) spooky phenomena :-/ > > -J. > > > Original m

Re: [FRIAM] Advertents and Inadvertents

Yeah. What a guy. I had the impression there wasn’t anything he could master. Currently: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dabacon/ Eric > On Sep 24, 2021, at 6:09 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > > I once had an office by Dave Bacon. Years later, and for many

Re: [FRIAM] A pretty cellular automata video

Doh! I’m such a dolt, watching the pretty pictures. They’re both Turing complete, correct? Is there a natural sense of writing a program that, in that algorithmic representation, you know is somehow algorithmically deep in 110, which then becomes something algorithmically interesting under th

Re: [FRIAM] Newborn Heart Rate

I feel in this, Frank, like your comments will fall on deaf ears, for an interesting reason. The thing you summarize for Nick is precisely the thing he wants to object to. It seems to me that Nick believes that Zeno’s arrow paradox, https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/paradox-zeno/

Re: [FRIAM] Newborn Heart Rate

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Re: [FRIAM] Newborn Heart Rate

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Re: [FRIAM] Newborn Heart Rate

>> understand it a category error is a type error in natural language. Most >> people ignore them outside of tight, logical discourse I think analogous to >> the behavior of forgiving compilers. >> >> It's been 50 years since I studied compiler theory but I&#

Re: [FRIAM] Newborn Heart Rate

Maybe some viruses are alive in some definitions and some are > not? > > From: Friam mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com>> On > Behalf Of David Eric Smith > Sent: Sunday, October 3, 2021 9:39 AM > To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <mailto:friam@redf

Re: [FRIAM] Newborn Heart Rate

I think about as opposite to nugatory as one could get. Wu wei more like having an affect “get itself done” without making a big noise about doing it. A kind of more efficient getting-done by avoiding the distractions of self-conscious effort. > On Oct 3, 2021, at 11:35 PM, > wrote: > > S

Re: [FRIAM] Newborn Heart Rate

Gilding the lily, since I don’t disagree with anything that has specifically been said. I have felt like, somewhere between the deliberate distortion of Emerson that reads “consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds” (Fun ref see https://www.lawfareblog.com/foolish-consistency-hobgoblin-littl

Re: [FRIAM] Copernican thresholds; was: Newborn Heart Rate

be less bored, to have more options, or just to see something really new, would be great. Eric > On Oct 8, 2021, at 2:48 AM, Prof David West wrote: > > David Eric Smith wrote: > > "I cannot juggle hundreds of variables, and produce a result that would fail > _any_

Re: [FRIAM] Newborn Heart Rate

. That one will stay with me. Eric > On Oct 8, 2021, at 2:48 AM, Prof David West wrote: > > David Eric Smith wrote: > > "I cannot juggle hundreds of variables, and produce a result that would fail > _any_ test for randomness. I can conceive that maybe there are pe

Re: [FRIAM] Unexpected success

I believe this observation connects to the thread on bogus medical predictions by AIs. Also to the thread on “we speak different languages”, where somebody ran a translator program on the most-trollish non-language of the comments sections on social-media posts. > To become successful [in t

Re: [FRIAM] [dis]integrated

Yeah I don’t know. For some years I was working in ocean-floor engineering, and got a feel for seawater. For all the devices you design, it is all-surrounding and omnipresent. It relentlessly intrudes through any crack, seam, or pore, and it corrodes whatever it touches. For whatever reaso

Re: [FRIAM] Schwill Rock?

Would this be of any use? https://www.molgen.de/ It sounded like you were doing something that you want to be fast and in-line, and I don’t know if MOLGEN grants an API that offers that degree of flexibility. People I know who have worked with it say that it is fairly

Re: [FRIAM] Schwill Rock?

On 3: https://depth-first.com/articles/2020/05/04/stereochemistry-and-atom-parity-in-smiles/ > On Oct 13, 2021, at 12:54 PM, Jon Zingale wrote: > > Thanks Roger, Marcus. I am a newbie in this area and s

Re: [FRIAM] Schwill Rock?

Yes. Needing to do graph canonicalization deep in a loop that must run many times was a core problem for these guys: https://cheminf.imada.sdu.dk/mod/ They are very Very concerned to use the most efficient algorithm known at any time for graph isomorphism and

Re: [FRIAM] Schwill Rock?

> On Oct 13, 2021, at 6:42 PM, Roger Critchlow wrote: > > 2. In practice, do the edge cases that Roger mentioned effectively get added > into the rewrite rules for the grammar or are they a separate kind of thing? > > The edge cases are yours to deal with, they're totally legit potential > m

Re: [FRIAM] [dis]integrated

ey're repulsive *because* > they're so pitiable?) What we need is an education program that gives the > pathetic True Believers some tools that help them climb out of their hole. > But like the cops responding to a call from a homeless camp littered with > human feces a

Re: [FRIAM] [dis]integrated

Very nice line in Hossenfelder's podcast, which works because of her rather Aspergers delivery. What one hears (with a fully sincere affect): The society of truth-loving men no longer exists. Had there been a written version, one might have found: The “Society of Truth-Loving Men” no longer

Re: [FRIAM] stygmergy, CA's, and [biological] development

When I was a very very little kid, there was a “question” my parents pointed out to me, which they thought might be an important puzzle to work through, but they were busy enough holding life together (more or less like hoping they could keep the various dams from breaking from one day to the ne

Re: [FRIAM] stygmergy, CA's, and [biological] development

There is a formalism for discrete-event dynamical systems known as “bond graphs”. I haven’t read much about it, but Alan Perelson did some work on this when he was young and not famous. Bond graphs seem to be a slightly more flexible construction than hypergraphs, and they contain a subset tha

Re: [FRIAM] A Question For Tomorrow

Hi Marcus et al. > On Apr 30, 2019, at 10:41 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > > Eric writes: > > < The important consequence of this understanding is that we have > mathematical formalizations of the concept of state and of observable, and > they are two different kinds of concept. It is precisel

Re: [FRIAM] A Question For Tomorrow

On May 1, 2019, at 12:58 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote: Marcus wrote: > < Why do people seek this (as Eric puts it) emotional comfort with their ways > of knowing? > > > Either spacetime works in a surprising way and commonsense intuition is just > wrong -- to cling to a familiar way of knowing a

Re: [FRIAM] A Question For Tomorrow

> On May 1, 2019, at 2:33 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > > I was just throwing out two, the wormhole idea of Maldacena & Susskind and > super-determinism described by Hooft.They seem very different to me, and > could imply two very different universes. That QM works for either doesn't > he

Re: [FRIAM] A Question For Tomorrow

Hi Nick, in turn, > On May 1, 2019, at 5:15 AM, Nick Thompson wrote: > > I knew I would get my ears boxed for this: Not boxed; just conversed with. > > I was in a forum with a bunch of physicists last year many of whom were > wedded to the notion that nature was determined by things beyond

Re: [FRIAM] A Question For Tomorrow

Okay, one last, and then I die, having created as much chaos in the world as it was my place to create. > On May 1, 2019, at 8:09 AM, Nick Thompson wrote: > > The Schrodinger's cat can be both dead and un-dead, but I cannot know a thing > and not know it, except by equivocating on the meaning

Re: [FRIAM] A Question For Tomorrow

> On May 2, 2019, at 8:21 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > > Eric writes: > > < 4. The values of those microscopic observables can evolve jointly with > values of more complicated large-actor observables that we describe as > apparatus measuring spins etc., and the branches of the large-actor st

Re: [FRIAM] All hail confirmation bias!

I think Ortega y Gasset had things to say about that in Man and Crisis. I haven’t read enough to know yet whether I think his take is important. But it would be hard to find someone who picked up the question in terms more identical to those that Nick uses below to frame it. Eric > On Jul 2

Re: [FRIAM] All hail confirmation bias!

> -Original Message- > From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com > <mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com>] On Behalf Of David Eric Smith > Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2019 5:19 PM > To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <mailto:friam@redfish.com>>

Re: [FRIAM] All hail confirmation bias!

action and this view of the structure-preserving map.) > > davew > > > On Mon, Jul 29, 2019, at 12:15 PM, David Eric Smith wrote: >> Hi Nick, >> >> The part of the book that prompted me to forward it to the list was most of >> the first 3 (short) chapt

Re: [FRIAM] All hail confirmation bias!

Hi Steve, I agree with what you say below, and had a similar reaction to reading Ortega. From today’s perspective and my own scientific experience set, it would rarely seem natural to me to think of a complex human function as a novel and irreducible thing. We can see so many areas of cogniti

Re: [FRIAM] All hail confirmation bias!

> nick > > Nicholas S. Thompson > Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology > Clark University > http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ > <http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/> > > From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.c

Re: [FRIAM] people figuring out WTF

Given the seriousness of this, the fact that it causes real harm to people that could have been avoided, it is terrible that I notice early in the article that many of the diplomats were disturbed “by a buzzing sound or high-pitched noise” prior to falling ill. It may be that I am primed for su

Re: [FRIAM] climate change questions

And not only forests. Restructure agriculture. The perennial polyculture concept for which Wes Jackson founded the Land Institute https://landinstitute.org/ Is meant to base farming on a cropping system with the structure of a prairie sod. Either farmland or prairi

Re: [FRIAM] NO LANL IN SANTA FE! Wednesday, 12; 00 outside SF City Hall; bring friends

I remember getting the inside story on the state of Global Circulation Modeling from Chick Hearn of IGPP (Institute of Geophysics and Planetary Physics at LANL) back in the day when I couldn’t have got that kind of field-leading judgment/perspective from anyone else I had access to. In the ge

Re: [FRIAM] NO LANL IN SANTA FE! Wednesday, 12; 00 outside SF City Hall; bring friends

I think I have been influenced on preferred frames for this question by two sources in particular. One was the writing Krugman did in the 1970s-90s on economic geography, which translating into my own current language is very much a perspective of institutional ecology with an emphasis on criti

Re: [FRIAM] Murdoch and Trump

Would be interesting to know what the buffers are, that weren’t in that run of models. Temperatures are lower than forecast, but Greenland and Antarctic ice sheet melting rates are higher. They seem like small land areas, and the ice volume small, but specific heat of melting is large per volu

Re: [FRIAM] Murdoch and Trump

Sorry… My own typos are bad enough, but usually comprehensible. But when the damned computer helpfully comes in and substitutes the word it thinks I must have meant, the result is a true obscurity: > One also wants to take into account arctic se ice, which if I really is on a > faster melting

Re: [FRIAM] Trumps motives not judiciable because they are "in his head"

I’m glad to have these resources, particularly the lawfare breakdowns. However, in this conversation I would like to see us separate the things we credit with reflecting on real ideas from patent political nonsense and bad faith. Dershowitz exists to prove the maxim that there isn’t really any

Re: [FRIAM] Trumps motives not judiciable because they are "in his head"

I don’t think finding a language to talk will come from being co-opted in a bad-faith narrative where up is down and black is white, just because some people are angry and have been led to believe they want to tear truth up to revert to a game in which it is only who has power — wrongly believin

Re: [FRIAM] Eric Smith's interview on Jim Rutt's podcast

Thanks for this, Steve, Yes, it was Grinspoon. Sara Walker told me that at the last AbSciCon meeting, but in the running stream of conversation with Jim I had forgotten it. Your Freudian typo was fun, unless it was your computer that did it. A mixture of Grinspoon and Greenspan. Given what h

Re: [FRIAM] Eric Smith's interview on Jim Rutt's podcast

Thanks Steve, Yes, there is a certain thread of literature and experience that is always in my mind on this topic. It began some years ago when David Krakauer waved a copy of Richard Novikovsky’s book Games of No Chance in front of me, and that was my introduction to the modern work that had b

Re: [FRIAM] wishing I believed in karma

The thing I particularly liked in this was that Rebecca held off on dealing with him, in the hope that perhaps brain damage would make him smarter. Of course that hope doesn’t do any good for his daughter. > On Feb 13, 2020, at 6:35 AM, glen wrote: > > https://skepchick.org/2020/02/jordan-pet

Re: [FRIAM] A longer response to Dave's question

So Dave, > What kind of vocabulary can we apply to the substance/essence of > altered-states-of-consciousness experiences? Metaphor certainly, but > "concept," "idea," or even "knowledge?" is it possible to develop a > philosophy, an epistemology, that would be inclusive of "experience" beyond

Re: [FRIAM] Outbreak Simulation

Yes, exactly. > 1.8 million people at a 1% fatality rate. That’s what you get in countries that can give the best of their health service to patients who get very sick. Italy’s death rate is currently around 10%. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Re: [FRIAM] Coronavirus New Mexico numbers.xlsx

So this article looks like it points to interesting data: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/30/health/coronavirus-restrictions-fevers.html The limitation there will be representativeness of the sample, since there will

Re: [FRIAM] RedState/BlueState OneState/TwoState

> Has china actually eliminated the virus from the population and the are > merely putting out sparks that have blown in from other places? I would bet very high odds that is not the case. They have probably greatly reduced the caseload. Friends there say they are rebuilding daily activities

Re: [FRIAM] RedState/BlueState OneState/TwoState

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Re: [FRIAM] RedState/BlueState OneState/TwoState

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