That might be where the Havana syndrome is coming from. There actually are microwave-powered agents stalking these various CIA, and they need to recharge in situ from time to time, with a little sideband cooking of the biologicals in the beamline.
> On Sep 23, 2021, at 5:17 AM, Marcus Daniels <mar...@snoutfarm.com> wrote: > > Yes, I like the induction loop idea. Or if I could switch between physical > realizations, a form that would allow for direct microwave delivery from > outer space. Sure I might glow a little bit, but that would pass. > > From: Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com> On Behalf Of Steve Smith > Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 1:02 PM > To: friam@redfish.com > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] unplanned [sen|obsol]escence > > > > Marcus - > I was a user of Soylent for a while. A problem with it is that it uses rice > flour that spoils. > I guess I didn't know there was a ?commercial? product by that name. > > I was of course, referencing that 70s B movie with Charlton Heston > <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UPDUpjkHg0> (the era of OmegaManHeston and > PlanetO'ApesHeston) before NRAColdDeadHandsHeston and after BenHurHeston and > MosesHeston. > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UPDUpjkHg0 > <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UPDUpjkHg0> > What’s the point of it if you have to worry about preparation and its > integrity? I want to pop in a battery my leg and be good to go! > Wouldn't it be even more convenient to have inductive charging loops > everywhere and just stay topped off all the time (while in Eloi territory > anyway)? In the meantime, tinfoil hatters would imagine you can draw directly > from the power grid inductively. My great uncles were famous for tapping the > power lines going by with a coil of wire on a long pole they could lay up > close to the wires going over and > > If I were going fully post/trans human I think I'd want to grow a > peacock-like photosynthetic tailfeather array to capture sunlight directly. > Though I think the efficiency would have to be pretty high to support a 2000W > lifestyle <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UPDUpjkHg0>. At a solar flux of > 1000W/m^2 that looks like a shadow-print of 1mx2m or the cross section of at > typical grave? 3 m diameter peacock fan? > > > From: Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com> <mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com> On > Behalf Of Steve Smith > Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 11:21 AM > To: friam@redfish.com <mailto:friam@redfish.com> > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] unplanned [sen|obsol]escence > > > > On 9/22/21 12:00 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > Steve writes: > > < Is it a single spectrum? I propose a few components: > > Self Exploration > Creativity Enhancement > Medicating for Social Anxiety > Medicating for Depression > Self Identity/Expression > Avoidance > ... > > > Being a vegan, for example, is an inconvenience and one will tend to impact a > group. Not participating in the hedonism around you will make you stick > out. > I was fairly pure vegetarian from age 14-32. I eased out of Vegetarianism by > eating meat whenever it was served and not "sharing" my vegetarianism > overtly, it was definitely making me "stick out" and I didn't enjoy the > conversations I usually had around it with both vegetarians and > non-vegetarians. I am now back to mostly vegetarian with a lean toward > veganism, based mostly on my broadening empathy with all living things and my > growing distaste for all things mega-industrial (agri-industry, animal > edition especially) and the implications for the health of the biosphere (and > maybe more acutely, the noosphere). To most, this probably just seems like > knee-jerk bleeding-heart ned-ludd-channeling tedium. > > My peers are no longer whigged by any dietary preference/restriction I might > express (though I try to keep my dietary preferences to myself). They don't > even blink at anyone eschewing anything... Alcohol, sugar, gluten, caffiene, > meat products, animal products, orange colored food, GMO, non-GMO, etc. > For health/vitality reasons, I have tried a number of dietary restrictions > (metabolism and inflammation related) so do occasionally have to "eat around" > what is served/offered as quietly as possible (or more likely just stick to a > green salad and water which is almost always available and almost always fits > any dietary restriction). > > I'm surprised you would have no takers on a GMO-positive food club. I have a > number of acquaintances who lean heavily into the food-replacement (e.g Huel) > and even synthetic food game. > > https://huel.com/ > <https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fhuel.com%2f&c=E,1,kfx_imZq85_c5LNLIPljGjH6CamnJvfnwyFzW25n8gK2ECWlcMyDKXf3LbIKlgNd2kKHRufoFflpi75jFPGiHVLf30yCaX7RCj4Y-iUqbxo,&typo=1> > https://www.eater.com/2019/5/14/18623258/impossible-foods-synthetic-lab-grown-meat-science > > <https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fwww.eater.com%2f2019%2f5%2f14%2f18623258%2fimpossible-foods-synthetic-lab-grown-meat-science&c=E,1,UdZHSSiexxxvRp0agBFJ6FfeEsTAQoJhcuQX00ZT0A9_HVgCnjnFueACBKdybi_SAuQq4Rn6NfP_z7BhTW_pfE6cDuxmFfy0gTKQflfpPrlG-cw_&typo=1> > I'm still haunted by the spectre of Soylent Green. > > I'll opt for continuing to dabble in home gardening, aquaponics, and raising > egg-laying chickens. > > > > > From: Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com> <mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com> On > Behalf Of Steve Smith > Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 10:53 AM > To: friam@redfish.com <mailto:friam@redfish.com> > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] unplanned [sen|obsol]escence > > > > > > Generation X are heavy, risky drinkers. Will anything ever persuade us to > stop? > https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/sep/22/generation-x-heavy-drinkers-will-anything-persuade-us-to-stop > > <https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fwww.theguardian.com%2fsociety%2f2021%2fsep%2f22%2fgeneration-x-heavy-drinkers-will-anything-persuade-us-to-stop&c=E,1,_OtQ9sqZZbpg3A40TzEuF2nFo6LTUqsPvO4ukhtl_u5ZIluQ4DlCll1dnuhaYA-C9K8T2Sm9QnUgE2z6pb2GWvtlUp5fp4tOJzxd0MQoHw72_sHiCAY,&typo=1> > > "There’s one other factor: the odiousness of comparison. Or, to put that more > simply, generation X was never that extreme, it’s just the millennials, or > generation sensible, are making us look bad. They drink less overall, and are > more likely to renounce drinking altogether. Generation Z drink less still > ..." > At least among some subcultures, Generation B(oomer) were much more alcohol > abusing, not only in our youth (I turned 18 not long after the drinking age > was (temporarily) reduced to 18 or 19 in many states), but in our > "middle-age" (day drinkers) and into our twilight years as high functioning > (or low-demand) alcoholics. At least you X-drinkers had craft brew to hide > behind, we were arguing over Coors vs Budweiser or lauding the praises of > 40oz Schlitz Malt Liquor (for lunch?). > > "People are so cynical: they say millennials are just taking drugs or smoking > weed instead. But that’s not the case: we’ve seen declines in all drug use." > > > If anything makes me worry about the future of society, it's this Puritanism > infecting our youngsters. Alcohol is poison. But the other drugs are much > less so. Maybe, just maybe, we'll see loosening of controls (like marijuana, > X, and psi) and that will allow DIY body modification, implants, and such to > flower. It's important to see it as a spectrum. > Is it a single spectrum? 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