Very nice line in Hossenfelder's podcast, which works because of her rather Aspergers delivery.
What one hears (with a fully sincere affect): The society of truth-loving men no longer exists. Had there been a written version, one might have found: The “Society of Truth-Loving Men” no longer exists. Both acceptable. God Bless Sabine. Eric > On Oct 14, 2021, at 7:03 PM, uǝlƃ ☤>$ <geprope...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Well, it seems obvious to me (admittedly at risk of imputation or > Dunning-Kruger) that we all have both modes in our repertoire. Maybe there > are subsets of us who lean hard one way or the other. But I guess that just > kicks the can down the road. Too much soldier ⇒ not recognizing when to > switch to scout mode. And vice versa, like those pitiful truth-s[uc|ee]kers > stuck in a conversation with a zero-sum logicbro. > > It's error-correcting self-attention loops all the way down ... and up. And > if you're not exercising your low/fast interrupts (capsaicin , yoga, LSD, > whatever), then you're probably not exercising your high/slow interrupts > (active listening, abandoning pet theories, etc.). The idea that we can > strengthen the high/slow interrupts without also strengthening the low/fast > ones seems fideistic to me ... like telekinesis or somesuch. > > Tangentially, I'm somewhat of a fan of Goertzel. But this worries me: > > Evidence for Psi: Thirteen Empirical Research Reports > https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fbookshop.org%2fbooks%2fevidence-for-psi-thirteen-empirical-research-reports%2f9780786478286&c=E,1,wzGTnONTUzfmGhmFisinj17cKD_FmLSmg1C_jkpPC7sVOugtqwM01wfgiWVMy-REH2Uh3iTdPDVZkxoyLD6KgPMA7EaeZbFT9W3s1xBj8TYNWS7w&typo=1 > > Maybe one of you has read it? I'm told it contains some fantastic nuggets > about statistics, which makes me want a copy. And this video presents a good > argument, regardless of the gist: > > How I learned to love pseudoscience > https://youtu.be/bWV0XIn-rvY > > But I worry about my own ability to switch from scout to soldier ... which is > why the right-wing morons I talk to at the pub don't immediately murder me. > Once they get to know me, they don't love me anymore. > > On 10/14/21 3:29 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote: >> Even with a scout mentality there is the problem of modeling the deck of >> alternative scenarios that arise from uncertainty in a map. The tendency >> to take imputed values for a set of unknown variables is a practical >> cognitive resource limitation that one can acknowledge or fail to >> acknowledge. To challenge a person’s gut feeling -- all those imputed >> values -- and to observe the exasperation (even perceived persecution) that >> may result from the challenge is how I distinguish scouts from soldiers. >> There are surely some tactical benefits to soldiers running toward the enemy >> with their bayonets to not spend a lot of time reflecting on how confident >> they are that the person they are running toward is their enemy. >> >> From: Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com> On Behalf Of Jon Zingale >> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2021 1:17 PM >> To: friam@redfish.com >> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] [dis]integrated >> >> >> The Scout Mindset >> >> https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fbookshop.org%2fbooks%2fthe-scout-mindset-why-some-people-see-things-clearly-and-others-don-t%2f9780735217553&c=E,1,3zlCRFjEuJJ-3kftNjvHchMqPeKe3NJ4etshrs4wu1bDoHn8FPIwjT3EQFSkYEwhrezzsXzlJpEUMPqu_LqT9xQCWzVTwu7FDuKwHQQxyx1k8f12UsFnn-dT&typo=1 > > > -- > "Better to be slapped with the truth than kissed with a lie." > ☤>$ uǝlƃ > > > .-- .- -. - / .- -.-. - .. --- -. ..--.. / -.-. --- -. .--- ..- --. .- - . > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn UTC-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam > un/subscribe > https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http%3a%2f%2fredfish.com%2fmailman%2flistinfo%2ffriam_redfish.com&c=E,1,oNtv9anMskayIBdLCUMVDec4kd4ozgMKDNHurar3RKqaQhwv5YOofhHy4BbEQGtyRR_FQLlJzsSFsVNYGsVEJCwGuBk-Q01arZUUD03AjKxgVMMSLQoVQQ,,&typo=1 > FRIAM-COMIC > https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http%3a%2f%2ffriam-comic.blogspot.com%2f&c=E,1,OMYM_NLjhTJjiLSukn3KsxvnPIlWBajEFAUrL-6Fl7SdPJhWLLUYZVs3u4_d0L4-YFO_riHzQNoMjW7YrqTfC0_V4T-XAYsMbJ8y9AiHrg,,&typo=1 > archives: > 5/2017 thru present > https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fredfish.com%2fpipermail%2ffriam_redfish.com%2f&c=E,1,k6sThdrRks9BGfx_CNvhzlmJTeSeZYCYEL7pAA1WpyBGUi56FUmsz9yrHitTpn4522wc9qDeCkMJmK1FAFG6t00XORfgvR3njkt-8kNzHZ03&typo=1 > 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/ .-- .- -. - / .- -.-. - .. --- -. ..--.. / -.-. --- -. .--- ..- --. .- - . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn UTC-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ archives: 5/2017 thru present https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/
