Re: [FRIAM] gen'fur

2021-09-11 Thread Barry MacKichan
When I was (much) younger, I tended strongly to the nurture side of the nature vs nurture divide. My wife and I raised four kids, two from her previous marriage, one that we are responsible for, and one biracial adopted son. So, four kids, three fathers, and two mothers. It did not take long t

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2021-09-10 Thread Marcus Daniels
descriptions we use because we are poor computers. From: Friam On Behalf Of thompnicks...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, September 10, 2021 8:57 PM To: 'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group' Subject: Re: [FRIAM] gen'fur Marcus, Would require a conversation. The chance tha

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2021-09-10 Thread thompnickson2
gmail.com> thompnicks...@gmail.com <https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/> https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ From: Friam On Behalf Of Marcus Daniels Sent: Friday, September 10, 2021 1:25 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] gen'

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2021-09-10 Thread Frank Wimberly
> Sent: Friday, September 10, 2021 12:16 PM > To: friam@redfish.com > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] gen'fur > > It's your fault for focusing on reading ability instead of some less > subjective trait. Had you focused on, say, tool use < > https://ec.europa.eu/research-and-innova

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2021-09-10 Thread Marcus Daniels
I should have known to hide the drugs from the addicts. -Original Message- From: Friam On Behalf Of u?l? ?>$ Sent: Friday, September 10, 2021 12:16 PM To: friam@redfish.com Subject: Re: [FRIAM] gen'fur It's your fault for focusing on reading ability instead of some le

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2021-09-10 Thread uǝlƃ ☤ $
Friday, September 10, 2021 11:56 AM > *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group > *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] gen'fur > >   > > Wimberly's Conjecture:  There is no correct, reductionist explanation of > consciousness. > > --- > Frank C. Wimberly

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2021-09-10 Thread Marcus Daniels
How did we get started on consciousness again? The thread started with some snark about the power of GWAS associations.. From: Friam On Behalf Of Frank Wimberly Sent: Friday, September 10, 2021 11:56 AM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] gen

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2021-09-10 Thread Frank Wimberly
; > Sure. Of course. Why is this so profound to y’all? > > > > > > > > *From:* Friam *On Behalf Of * > thompnicks...@gmail.com > > *Sent:* Friday, September 10, 2021 10:20 AM > > *To:* 'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group&

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2021-09-10 Thread uǝlƃ ☤ $
.  Of course.  Why is this so profound to y’all?  > >   > > *From:* Friam *On Behalf Of > *thompnicks...@gmail.com > *Sent:* Friday, September 10, 2021 10:20 AM > *To:* 'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group' > *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] gen'fur > &

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2021-09-10 Thread Marcus Daniels
ubject: Re: [FRIAM] gen'fur Which takes us back to thermostats, intentionality, intensional inexistence, Sober’s epiphomenator, spandrels, and Lorenz’s law: The goal is never the function. If you build a bird that measures competing male robins in terms of “brown stick with red fluff” you ev

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2021-09-10 Thread thompnickson2
m: Friam On Behalf Of Steve Smith Sent: Friday, September 10, 2021 12:30 PM To: friam@redfish.com Subject: Re: [FRIAM] gen'fur Sometimes all you need is a good aphorism https://sketchplanations.com/goodharts-law or maybe boost it up with a cartoon https://sketchplanations.com/ I can

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2021-09-10 Thread Steve Smith
.com/magazine/archive/2020/12/the-last-children-of-down-syndrome/616928/ >> -Original Message- >> From: Friam On Behalf Of David Eric Smith >> Sent: Thursday, September 9, 2021 2:12 PM >> To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group >> Subject:

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2021-09-10 Thread uǝlƃ ☤ $
>>>>>> On September 9, 2021 2:31:39 PM PDT, Marcus Daniels >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> Or they are reprogramming their people to be smarter! >>>>>>> (Actually, deCODE is owned by Amgen now.) >>>>>>> >

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2021-09-10 Thread Marcus Daniels
rcus Daniels >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> Or they are reprogramming their people to be smarter! >>>>>> (Actually, deCODE is owned by Amgen now.) >>>>>> >>>>>> Selection is already occurring, so it isn't as if thi

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2021-09-10 Thread uǝlƃ ☤ $
M PDT, Marcus Daniels >>>>> wrote: >>>>> Or they are reprogramming their people to be smarter! >>>>> (Actually, deCODE is owned by Amgen now.) >>>>> >>>>> Selection is already occurring, so it isn't as if this is

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2021-09-10 Thread Marcus Daniels
so it isn't as if this is some sci-fi >>>> thing. >>>> >>>> https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/12/the-last-children-of-down-syndrome/616928/ >>>> -Original Message- >>>> From: Friam On Behalf Of David Eric

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2021-09-10 Thread uǝlƃ ☤ $
ginal Message- >>> From: Friam On Behalf Of David Eric Smith >>> Sent: Thursday, September 9, 2021 2:12 PM >>> To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group >>> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] gen'fur >>> >>> Aha! This is why Icel

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2021-09-10 Thread Marcus Daniels
616928/ >> -Original Message- >> From: Friam On Behalf Of David Eric Smith >> Sent: Thursday, September 9, 2021 2:12 PM >> To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group >> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] gen'fur >> >> Aha! This is why Iceland

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2021-09-10 Thread ⛧ glen
Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group >Subject: Re: [FRIAM] gen'fur > >Aha! This is why Iceland has the highest per-capita fraction of published >authors in the world. I had assumed it was the weather…. > >> On Sep 10, 2021, at 2:17 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote: >

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2021-09-09 Thread Jon Zingale
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2021-09-09 Thread thompnickson2
Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] gen'fur Did you read the article about aborting babies with Down Syndrome? --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Thu, Sep 9, 2021, 6:00 PM ⛧ glen mailto:geprope...@gmail.com> > wrote:

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2021-09-09 Thread thompnickson2
offee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] gen'fur Apples can be red. ... Wait what? What were we talking about? "I have no idea what's goin' on." On September 9, 2021 4:54:42 PM PDT, Marcus Daniels wrote: >Puppies are adorable. > >From: Friam On Behalf Of Frank Wimber

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2021-09-09 Thread David Eric Smith
Thursday, September 9, 2021 10:12 AM > To: friam@redfish.com > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] gen'fur > > Ha! Now you're trolling. The answer is: "because the sites that generate > reading ability (or whatever) *also* generate other 'abilities'", with > &

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2021-09-09 Thread ⛧ glen
4:42 PM PDT, Marcus Daniels >> wrote: >> >Puppies are adorable. >> > >> >From: Friam On Behalf Of Frank Wimberly >> >Sent: Thursday, September 9, 2021 4:33 PM >> >To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group > > >> >Subject: Re

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2021-09-09 Thread Frank Wimberly
what's goin' on." > > On September 9, 2021 4:54:42 PM PDT, Marcus Daniels > wrote: > >Puppies are adorable. > > > >From: Friam On Behalf Of Frank Wimberly > >Sent: Thursday, September 9, 2021 4:33 PM > >To: The Friday Morning Applied Complex

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2021-09-09 Thread ⛧ glen
4:33 PM >To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group >Subject: Re: [FRIAM] gen'fur > >Down's babies are adorable. >--- >Frank C. Wimberly >140 Calle Ojo Feliz, >Santa Fe, NM 87505 > >505 670-9918 >Santa Fe, NM > >On Thu, Sep 9, 2021, 3:32 PM

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2021-09-09 Thread Marcus Daniels
Puppies are adorable. From: Friam On Behalf Of Frank Wimberly Sent: Thursday, September 9, 2021 4:33 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] gen'fur Down's babies are adorable. --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 50

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2021-09-09 Thread Frank Wimberly
September 9, 2021 2:12 PM > To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] gen'fur > > Aha! This is why Iceland has the highest per-capita fraction of published > authors in the world. I had assumed it was the weather…. > > > On Sep 10, 20

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2021-09-09 Thread Marcus Daniels
ssage- From: Friam On Behalf Of David Eric Smith Sent: Thursday, September 9, 2021 2:12 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] gen'fur Aha! This is why Iceland has the highest per-capita fraction of published authors in the world. I had assumed

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2021-09-09 Thread Marcus Daniels
Message- From: Friam On Behalf Of u?l? ?>$ Sent: Thursday, September 9, 2021 10:12 AM To: friam@redfish.com Subject: Re: [FRIAM] gen'fur Ha! Now you're trolling. The answer is: "because the sites that generate reading ability (or whatever) *also* generate other 'abilities&

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2021-09-09 Thread uǝlƃ ☤ $
AM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > So find the sites that correspond to reading ability, or whatever, and WRITE > them. > > -Original Message- > From: Friam On Behalf Of u?l? ?>$ > Sent: Thursday, September 9, 2021 9:51 AM > To: friam@redfish.com > Subject:

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2021-09-09 Thread Marcus Daniels
So find the sites that correspond to reading ability, or whatever, and WRITE them. -Original Message- From: Friam On Behalf Of u?l? ?>$ Sent: Thursday, September 9, 2021 9:51 AM To: friam@redfish.com Subject: Re: [FRIAM] gen'fur I was alerted to this article this morni

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2021-09-09 Thread uǝlƃ ☤ $
I was alerted to this article this morning: Can Progressives Be Convinced That Genetics Matters? https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/09/13/can-progressives-be-convinced-that-genetics-matters It should delight those amongst us who rant about the "woke". 8^D But it dovetails nicely with the fr

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2021-09-08 Thread Marcus Daniels
mailto:friam@redfish.com>> Subject: [FRIAM] gen'fur Gen'fur this, gen'fur that... and also the realities of biological complexity [cid:image001.png@01D7A4CA.1A385F10] - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fri