Did you read the article about aborting babies with Down Syndrome? --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505
505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Thu, Sep 9, 2021, 6:00 PM ⛧ glen <geprope...@gmail.com> wrote: > Apples can be red. ... Wait what? What were we talking about? "I have no > idea what's goin' on." > > On September 9, 2021 4:54:42 PM PDT, Marcus Daniels <mar...@snoutfarm.com> > wrote: > >Puppies are adorable. > > > >From: Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com> On Behalf Of Frank Wimberly > >Sent: Thursday, September 9, 2021 4:33 PM > >To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam@redfish.com > > > >Subject: Re: [FRIAM] gen'fur > > > >Down's babies are adorable. > >--- > >Frank C. Wimberly > >140 Calle Ojo Feliz, > >Santa Fe, NM 87505 > > > >505 670-9918 > >Santa Fe, NM > > > >On Thu, Sep 9, 2021, 3:32 PM Marcus Daniels <mar...@snoutfarm.com<mailto: > mar...@snoutfarm.com>> wrote: > >Or they are reprogramming their people to be smarter! > >(Actually, deCODE is owned by Amgen now.) > > > >Selection is already occurring, so it isn't as if this is some sci-fi > thing. > > > > > https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/12/the-last-children-of-down-syndrome/616928/ > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com<mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com>> > On Behalf Of David Eric Smith > >Sent: Thursday, September 9, 2021 2:12 PM > >To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam@redfish.com > <mailto:friam@redfish.com>> > >Subject: Re: [FRIAM] gen'fur > > > >Aha! This is why Iceland has the highest per-capita fraction of > published authors in the world. I had assumed it was the weather…. > > > >> On Sep 10, 2021, at 2:17 AM, Marcus Daniels <mar...@snoutfarm.com > <mailto:mar...@snoutfarm.com>> wrote: > >> > >> That can be screened as well with a large population-wide survey such > has been done in the UK or Iceland. > >> Of course, it is unlikely that complex behaviors will be governed by > isolated mutations, so the task is to look for highly predictive motifs > (e.g. regular expressions). > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com<mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com>> > On Behalf Of u?l? ?>$ > >> Sent: Thursday, September 9, 2021 10:12 AM > >> To: friam@redfish.com<mailto:friam@redfish.com> > >> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] gen'fur > >> > >> Ha! Now you're trolling. The answer is: "because the sites that > generate reading ability (or whatever) *also* generate other 'abilities'", > with "abilities" in scare quotes because many abilities are considered bad > ... like the ability of a pimply faced white dude to shoot up a church or > blow up a federal building. > >> > >> In addition to polyphenism, there's robustness. If more than 1 site > generates the same functional ability (reading), then do we write them all? > ... just one of them? ... a probabilistically predictive handful of them? > >> > >> On 9/9/21 10:00 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > >>> So find the sites that correspond to reading ability, or whatever, and > WRITE them. > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com<mailto: > friam-boun...@redfish.com>> On Behalf Of u?l? ?>$ > >>> Sent: Thursday, September 9, 2021 9:51 AM > >>> To: friam@redfish.com<mailto:friam@redfish.com> > >>> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] gen'fur > >>> > >>> I was alerted to this article this morning: > >>> > >>> Can Progressives Be Convinced That Genetics Matters? > >>> https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/09/13/can-progressives-be-con > >>> v > >>> inced-that-genetics-matters > >>> > >>> It should delight those amongst us who rant about the "woke". 8^D But > it dovetails nicely with the fraught concept of equality in the other > thread. > >>> > >>> Coincidentally, also on 9/6, the BIAPT announced their early career > prize winner Emily McTernan: > >>> https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fwww.associationfo > >>> rpoliticalthought.ac.uk<http://rpoliticalthought.ac.uk > >%2fbiapt-2021-early-care&c=E,1,Je9MVNdO8lpJQOd > >>> 6fZwUNe-4z5yuFq0upxNIzMBFjmLFh_h5a63ueVVpd8lkEdWeUx5Xx1RaoPg3T5Ph8YlG > >>> 0558qqHLZD8-DKeBPEC3YYM,&typo=1 > >>> er-prize-winner-dr-emily-mcternan/ > >>> > >>> "In her forthcoming monograph, Dr McTernan develops her work on social > equality further, to advance a pioneering conceptual account – and robust > normative defence – of the phenomenon of ‘taking offence’. Therein, > McTernan contends, we should understand taking offence, under appropriate > conditions, as a civic virtue rather than a vice, as an emotion that > embodies the resistance of social inequalities within a community." > >>> > >>> > >>> On 9/8/21 8:06 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > >>>> From about a cancer rate of 10% (without mutation) to 50% (with) but > it depends on the BRCA variant. > >>>> > >>>> https://www.cdc.gov/genomics/disease/breast_ovarian_cancer/breast_ca > >>>> n > >>>> c > >>>> er.htm > >>>> <https://www.cdc.gov/genomics/disease/breast_ovarian_cancer/breast_c > >>>> a > >>>> n > >>>> cer.htm> > >>>> > >>>>> On Sep 8, 2021, at 4:07 PM, Frank Wimberly <wimber...@gmail.com > <mailto:wimber...@gmail.com>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Is the Braca gene that little correlated with breast cancer? > >>>>> > >>>>> --- > >>>>> Frank C. Wimberly > >>>>> 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, > >>>>> Santa Fe, NM 87505 > >>>>> > >>>>> 505 670-9918 > >>>>> Santa Fe, NM > >>>>> > >>>>> On Wed, Sep 8, 2021, 4:57 PM Marcus Daniels <mar...@snoutfarm.com > <mailto:mar...@snoutfarm.com> <mailto:mar...@snoutfarm.com<mailto: > mar...@snoutfarm.com>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> Yeah, it is hard to get excited about “unusual” variance. Modern > >>>>> classification algorithms like gradient boosting make it possible > >>>>> to predict phenotypes, and to me that is a lot more interesting > >>>>> (and still possible to deconstruct).____ > >>>>> > >>>>> __ __ > >>>>> > >>>>> *From:* Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com<mailto: > friam-boun...@redfish.com> <mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com<mailto: > friam-boun...@redfish.com>>> *On Behalf Of *Eric Charles > >>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 8, 2021 3:53 PM > >>>>> *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group < > friam@redfish.com<mailto:friam@redfish.com> <mailto:friam@redfish.com > <mailto:friam@redfish.com>>> > >>>>> *Subject:* [FRIAM] gen'fur____ > >>>>> > >>>>> __ __ > >>>>> > >>>>> Gen'fur this, gen'fur that... and also the realities of > biological complexity.... > >>>>> ____ > >> > >> > >> -- > >> ☤>$ > -- > glen ⛧ > > - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam > un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ > archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ >
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