Heh, yes. I'm also reading about "Hume's Law". Maybe that's what confused me?
On September 9, 2021 5:03:16 PM PDT, Frank Wimberly <wimber...@gmail.com> wrote: >Did you read the article about aborting babies with Down Syndrome? > >--- >Frank C. Wimberly >140 Calle Ojo Feliz, >Santa Fe, NM 87505 > >505 670-9918 >Santa Fe, NM > >On Thu, Sep 9, 2021, 6:00 PM ⛧ glen <geprope...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Apples can be red. ... Wait what? What were we talking about? "I have no >> idea what's goin' on." >> >> On September 9, 2021 4:54:42 PM PDT, Marcus Daniels <mar...@snoutfarm.com> >> wrote: >> >Puppies are adorable. >> > >> >From: Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com> On Behalf Of Frank Wimberly >> >Sent: Thursday, September 9, 2021 4:33 PM >> >To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam@redfish.com >> > >> >Subject: Re: [FRIAM] gen'fur >> > >> >Down's babies are adorable. >> >--- >> >Frank C. Wimberly >> >140 Calle Ojo Feliz, >> >Santa Fe, NM 87505 >> > >> >505 670-9918 >> >Santa Fe, NM >> > >> >On Thu, Sep 9, 2021, 3:32 PM Marcus Daniels <mar...@snoutfarm.com<mailto: >> mar...@snoutfarm.com>> wrote: >> >Or they are reprogramming their people to be smarter! >> >(Actually, deCODE is owned by Amgen now.) >> > >> >Selection is already occurring, so it isn't as if this is some sci-fi >> thing. >> > >> > >> https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/12/the-last-children-of-down-syndrome/616928/ >> >-----Original Message----- >> >From: Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com<mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com>> >> On Behalf Of David Eric Smith >> >Sent: Thursday, September 9, 2021 2:12 PM >> >To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam@redfish.com >> <mailto:friam@redfish.com>> >> >Subject: Re: [FRIAM] gen'fur >> > >> >Aha! This is why Iceland has the highest per-capita fraction of >> published authors in the world. I had assumed it was the weather…. >> > >> >> On Sep 10, 2021, at 2:17 AM, Marcus Daniels <mar...@snoutfarm.com >> <mailto:mar...@snoutfarm.com>> wrote: >> >> >> >> That can be screened as well with a large population-wide survey such >> has been done in the UK or Iceland. >> >> Of course, it is unlikely that complex behaviors will be governed by >> isolated mutations, so the task is to look for highly predictive motifs >> (e.g. regular expressions). >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com<mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com>> >> On Behalf Of u?l? ?>$ >> >> Sent: Thursday, September 9, 2021 10:12 AM >> >> To: friam@redfish.com<mailto:friam@redfish.com> >> >> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] gen'fur >> >> >> >> Ha! Now you're trolling. The answer is: "because the sites that >> generate reading ability (or whatever) *also* generate other 'abilities'", >> with "abilities" in scare quotes because many abilities are considered bad >> ... like the ability of a pimply faced white dude to shoot up a church or >> blow up a federal building. >> >> >> >> In addition to polyphenism, there's robustness. If more than 1 site >> generates the same functional ability (reading), then do we write them all? >> ... just one of them? ... a probabilistically predictive handful of them? >> >> >> >> On 9/9/21 10:00 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote: >> >>> So find the sites that correspond to reading ability, or whatever, and >> WRITE them. >> >>> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >> >>> From: Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com<mailto: >> friam-boun...@redfish.com>> On Behalf Of u?l? ?>$ >> >>> Sent: Thursday, September 9, 2021 9:51 AM >> >>> To: friam@redfish.com<mailto:friam@redfish.com> >> >>> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] gen'fur >> >>> >> >>> I was alerted to this article this morning: >> >>> >> >>> Can Progressives Be Convinced That Genetics Matters? >> >>> https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/09/13/can-progressives-be-con >> >>> v >> >>> inced-that-genetics-matters >> >>> >> >>> It should delight those amongst us who rant about the "woke". 8^D But >> it dovetails nicely with the fraught concept of equality in the other >> thread. >> >>> >> >>> Coincidentally, also on 9/6, the BIAPT announced their early career >> prize winner Emily McTernan: >> >>> https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fwww.associationfo >> >>> rpoliticalthought.ac.uk<http://rpoliticalthought.ac.uk >> >%2fbiapt-2021-early-care&c=E,1,Je9MVNdO8lpJQOd >> >>> 6fZwUNe-4z5yuFq0upxNIzMBFjmLFh_h5a63ueVVpd8lkEdWeUx5Xx1RaoPg3T5Ph8YlG >> >>> 0558qqHLZD8-DKeBPEC3YYM,&typo=1 >> >>> er-prize-winner-dr-emily-mcternan/ >> >>> >> >>> "In her forthcoming monograph, Dr McTernan develops her work on social >> equality further, to advance a pioneering conceptual account – and robust >> normative defence – of the phenomenon of ‘taking offence’. Therein, >> McTernan contends, we should understand taking offence, under appropriate >> conditions, as a civic virtue rather than a vice, as an emotion that >> embodies the resistance of social inequalities within a community." >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> On 9/8/21 8:06 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote: >> >>>> From about a cancer rate of 10% (without mutation) to 50% (with) but >> it depends on the BRCA variant. >> >>>> >> >>>> https://www.cdc.gov/genomics/disease/breast_ovarian_cancer/breast_ca >> >>>> n >> >>>> c >> >>>> er.htm >> >>>> <https://www.cdc.gov/genomics/disease/breast_ovarian_cancer/breast_c >> >>>> a >> >>>> n >> >>>> cer.htm> >> >>>> >> >>>>> On Sep 8, 2021, at 4:07 PM, Frank Wimberly <wimber...@gmail.com >> <mailto:wimber...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Is the Braca gene that little correlated with breast cancer? >> >>>>> >> >>>>> --- >> >>>>> Frank C. Wimberly >> >>>>> 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, >> >>>>> Santa Fe, NM 87505 >> >>>>> >> >>>>> 505 670-9918 >> >>>>> Santa Fe, NM >> >>>>> >> >>>>> On Wed, Sep 8, 2021, 4:57 PM Marcus Daniels <mar...@snoutfarm.com >> <mailto:mar...@snoutfarm.com> <mailto:mar...@snoutfarm.com<mailto: >> mar...@snoutfarm.com>>> wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Yeah, it is hard to get excited about “unusual” variance. Modern >> >>>>> classification algorithms like gradient boosting make it possible >> >>>>> to predict phenotypes, and to me that is a lot more interesting >> >>>>> (and still possible to deconstruct).____ >> >>>>> >> >>>>> __ __ >> >>>>> >> >>>>> *From:* Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com<mailto: >> friam-boun...@redfish.com> <mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com<mailto: >> friam-boun...@redfish.com>>> *On Behalf Of *Eric Charles >> >>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 8, 2021 3:53 PM >> >>>>> *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group < >> friam@redfish.com<mailto:friam@redfish.com> <mailto:friam@redfish.com >> <mailto:friam@redfish.com>>> >> >>>>> *Subject:* [FRIAM] gen'fur____ >> >>>>> >> >>>>> __ __ >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Gen'fur this, gen'fur that... and also the realities of >> biological complexity.... >> >>>>> ____ >> >> -- glen ⛧ - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . 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