Apples can be red. ... Wait what? What were we talking about? "I have no idea what's goin' on."
On September 9, 2021 4:54:42 PM PDT, Marcus Daniels <mar...@snoutfarm.com> wrote: >Puppies are adorable. > >From: Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com> On Behalf Of Frank Wimberly >Sent: Thursday, September 9, 2021 4:33 PM >To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam@redfish.com> >Subject: Re: [FRIAM] gen'fur > >Down's babies are adorable. >--- >Frank C. Wimberly >140 Calle Ojo Feliz, >Santa Fe, NM 87505 > >505 670-9918 >Santa Fe, NM > >On Thu, Sep 9, 2021, 3:32 PM Marcus Daniels ><mar...@snoutfarm.com<mailto:mar...@snoutfarm.com>> wrote: >Or they are reprogramming their people to be smarter! >(Actually, deCODE is owned by Amgen now.) > >Selection is already occurring, so it isn't as if this is some sci-fi thing. > >https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/12/the-last-children-of-down-syndrome/616928/ >-----Original Message----- >From: Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com<mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com>> On >Behalf Of David Eric Smith >Sent: Thursday, September 9, 2021 2:12 PM >To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group ><friam@redfish.com<mailto:friam@redfish.com>> >Subject: Re: [FRIAM] gen'fur > >Aha! This is why Iceland has the highest per-capita fraction of published >authors in the world. I had assumed it was the weather…. > >> On Sep 10, 2021, at 2:17 AM, Marcus Daniels >> <mar...@snoutfarm.com<mailto:mar...@snoutfarm.com>> wrote: >> >> That can be screened as well with a large population-wide survey such has >> been done in the UK or Iceland. >> Of course, it is unlikely that complex behaviors will be governed by >> isolated mutations, so the task is to look for highly predictive motifs >> (e.g. regular expressions). >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com<mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com>> On >> Behalf Of u?l? ?>$ >> Sent: Thursday, September 9, 2021 10:12 AM >> To: friam@redfish.com<mailto:friam@redfish.com> >> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] gen'fur >> >> Ha! Now you're trolling. The answer is: "because the sites that generate >> reading ability (or whatever) *also* generate other 'abilities'", with >> "abilities" in scare quotes because many abilities are considered bad ... >> like the ability of a pimply faced white dude to shoot up a church or blow >> up a federal building. >> >> In addition to polyphenism, there's robustness. If more than 1 site >> generates the same functional ability (reading), then do we write them all? >> ... just one of them? ... a probabilistically predictive handful of them? >> >> On 9/9/21 10:00 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote: >>> So find the sites that correspond to reading ability, or whatever, and >>> WRITE them. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com<mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com>> >>> On Behalf Of u?l? ?>$ >>> Sent: Thursday, September 9, 2021 9:51 AM >>> To: friam@redfish.com<mailto:friam@redfish.com> >>> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] gen'fur >>> >>> I was alerted to this article this morning: >>> >>> Can Progressives Be Convinced That Genetics Matters? >>> https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/09/13/can-progressives-be-con >>> v >>> inced-that-genetics-matters >>> >>> It should delight those amongst us who rant about the "woke". 8^D But it >>> dovetails nicely with the fraught concept of equality in the other thread. >>> >>> Coincidentally, also on 9/6, the BIAPT announced their early career prize >>> winner Emily McTernan: >>> https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fwww.associationfo >>> rpoliticalthought.ac.uk<http://rpoliticalthought.ac.uk>%2fbiapt-2021-early-care&c=E,1,Je9MVNdO8lpJQOd >>> 6fZwUNe-4z5yuFq0upxNIzMBFjmLFh_h5a63ueVVpd8lkEdWeUx5Xx1RaoPg3T5Ph8YlG >>> 0558qqHLZD8-DKeBPEC3YYM,&typo=1 >>> er-prize-winner-dr-emily-mcternan/ >>> >>> "In her forthcoming monograph, Dr McTernan develops her work on social >>> equality further, to advance a pioneering conceptual account – and robust >>> normative defence – of the phenomenon of ‘taking offence’. Therein, >>> McTernan contends, we should understand taking offence, under appropriate >>> conditions, as a civic virtue rather than a vice, as an emotion that >>> embodies the resistance of social inequalities within a community." >>> >>> >>> On 9/8/21 8:06 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote: >>>> From about a cancer rate of 10% (without mutation) to 50% (with) but it >>>> depends on the BRCA variant. >>>> >>>> https://www.cdc.gov/genomics/disease/breast_ovarian_cancer/breast_ca >>>> n >>>> c >>>> er.htm >>>> <https://www.cdc.gov/genomics/disease/breast_ovarian_cancer/breast_c >>>> a >>>> n >>>> cer.htm> >>>> >>>>> On Sep 8, 2021, at 4:07 PM, Frank Wimberly >>>>> <wimber...@gmail.com<mailto:wimber...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Is the Braca gene that little correlated with breast cancer? >>>>> >>>>> --- >>>>> Frank C. Wimberly >>>>> 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, >>>>> Santa Fe, NM 87505 >>>>> >>>>> 505 670-9918 >>>>> Santa Fe, NM >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Sep 8, 2021, 4:57 PM Marcus Daniels >>>>> <mar...@snoutfarm.com<mailto:mar...@snoutfarm.com> >>>>> <mailto:mar...@snoutfarm.com<mailto:mar...@snoutfarm.com>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Yeah, it is hard to get excited about “unusual” variance. Modern >>>>> classification algorithms like gradient boosting make it possible >>>>> to predict phenotypes, and to me that is a lot more interesting >>>>> (and still possible to deconstruct).____ >>>>> >>>>> __ __ >>>>> >>>>> *From:* Friam >>>>> <friam-boun...@redfish.com<mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com> >>>>> <mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com<mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com>>> *On >>>>> Behalf Of *Eric Charles >>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 8, 2021 3:53 PM >>>>> *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group >>>>> <friam@redfish.com<mailto:friam@redfish.com> >>>>> <mailto:friam@redfish.com<mailto:friam@redfish.com>>> >>>>> *Subject:* [FRIAM] gen'fur____ >>>>> >>>>> __ __ >>>>> >>>>> Gen'fur this, gen'fur that... and also the realities of biological >>>>> complexity.... >>>>> ____ >> >> >> -- >> ☤>$ -- glen ⛧ - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . 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