Re: on the usr/doc symlink

2002-09-13 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
g of policy as well? I find people wanting lintian to > > not > > debian-policy (3.5.7.0) unstable; urgency=low > > [...] > > * Removed the /usr/doc/ symlink clause. closes: Bug#47298, > Bug#69311 > excellent. Now as soon as I get the perl errors to go away I can release this thing. (-:

Re: on the usr/doc symlink

2002-09-13 Thread Martin Michlmayr
5.7.0) unstable; urgency=low [...] * Removed the /usr/doc/ symlink clause. closes: Bug#47298, Bug#69311 -- Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sat, 31 Aug 2002 02:18:02 -0500 -- Martin Michlmayr [EMAIL PROTECTED]

on the usr/doc symlink

2002-09-13 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
I am aware that joeyh removed the code from debhelper to support the links and the discussion seemed to indicate that we felt the compatibility links were no longer required. Is this the standing of policy as well? I find people wanting lintian to not report the warning on their package howeve

Bug#47298: marked as done (Making /usr/doc/XXX symbolic link to ../share/doc/XXX is BAD idea)

2002-08-31 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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Bug#69311: marked as done ([PROPOSAL] Symlinks in /usr/doc not mandatory anymore.)

2002-08-31 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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Re: /usr/doc link

2002-08-23 Thread Othmar Pasteka
Hi, On Mon, Aug 19, 2002 at 02:39:00PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > Of course policy still says we must. I don't know when we want to change > that; now or when a lot of packages have stopped including it, or what. because i hate not having some static place where to look how things should be done,

Re: /usr/doc link

2002-08-19 Thread Peter Palfrader
On Mon, 19 Aug 2002, Andrew Suffield wrote: > in /usr/doc/package. To realize a > smooth migration to > /usr/share/doc/package, each package > + added a symlink /usr/doc/package > + that pointed to the new location of its documentation in

Re: /usr/doc link

2002-08-19 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Mon, Aug 19, 2002 at 02:39:00PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > > On Mon, 19 Aug 2002, Oliver Elphick wrote: > > > Are we still supposed to maintain the /usr/share/doc/x -> /usr/doc/x > > > link for uploads to sarge? > > >

Re: /usr/doc link

2002-08-19 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Mon, 19 Aug 2002, Joey Hess wrote: > Of course policy still says we must. I don't know when we want to change > that; now or when a lot of packages have stopped including it, or what. Well, if we simply change policy not to say anything, then including it is not against policy. Later we forbid

Re: /usr/doc link

2002-08-19 Thread Joey Hess
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Mon, 19 Aug 2002, Oliver Elphick wrote: > > Are we still supposed to maintain the /usr/share/doc/x -> /usr/doc/x > > link for uploads to sarge? > > No. Of course policy still says we must. I don't know when we want to chan

Re: /usr/doc link

2002-08-19 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Mon, 19 Aug 2002, Oliver Elphick wrote: > Are we still supposed to maintain the /usr/share/doc/x -> /usr/doc/x > link for uploads to sarge? No. -- "One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of R

/usr/doc link

2002-08-19 Thread Oliver Elphick
Are we still supposed to maintain the /usr/share/doc/x -> /usr/doc/x link for uploads to sarge? -- Oliver Elphick[EMAIL PROTECTED] Isle of Wight, UK http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver GPG: 1024D/3E1D0C1C: CA12 09E0 E8D5 8870 5839 932A 6

Re: /usr/doc

2002-08-09 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sat, Jul 20, 2002 at 09:10:34PM -0500, Adam Heath wrote: > > (What about /usr/info <-> /usr/share/info ?) > > /usr/info/dir was just recently moved, with dpkg 1.10. That file is now a > symlink to /usr/share/info/dir. Once all files are moved from > /usr/info(there's a few left), and all info

Re: /usr/doc

2002-07-29 Thread Martin Schulze
Chris Lawrence wrote: > On Jul 20, Joey Hess wrote: > > So would anyone murder me if the code in debhelper to make postinst > > scripts manage /usr/doc links just went missing? This would of course > > cause the link to go away when packages were upgraded to versions b

Re: /usr/doc

2002-07-22 Thread Chris Lawrence
off if some newcomers to this issue want to go back and read > over the several thousand old messages about this transition to > familiarize themselves with the TC decision.) IMO we could offer it (/usr/doc as a symlink) as a base-config question at the lowest priority, with a default of no

OT: named dirs [was Re: /usr/doc]

2002-07-22 Thread Clint Adams
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~>doc=/usr/share/doc > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~>less ~doc/debian-policy/policy.txt.gz > > Nice. however how is this different from setting doc to /usr/share/doc > and then using $doc to refer to it? The only thing I can see is that it > get's expanded if I use tab completion, bu

Re: /usr/doc

2002-07-22 Thread Chris Waters
On Mon, Jul 22, 2002 at 12:02:56PM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: > retitle 69311 [PROPOSAL] Symlinks in /usr/doc not mandatory anymore. > thanks > [ I naively proposed something like this after the release of potato, > but it was not the right time... ]. > Proposed patch to

Re: /usr/doc

2002-07-22 Thread Joey Hess
Colin Watson wrote: > Seconded. I believe this is consistent with the original proposal > approved by the TC. Likewise seconded. -- see shy jo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: /usr/doc

2002-07-22 Thread Peter Palfrader
On Mon, 22 Jul 2002, Santiago Vila wrote: > retitle 69311 [PROPOSAL] Symlinks in /usr/doc not mandatory anymore. > thanks > > [ I naively proposed something like this after the release of potato, > but it was not the right time... ]. > > Proposed patch to current po

Bug#69311: PROPOSAL] Symlinks in /usr/doc not mandatory anymore.

2002-07-22 Thread Roland Mas
-- debian-policy-3.5.6.1.orig/policy.sgmlThu Mar 14 19:17:48 2002 > +++ debian-policy-3.5.6.1/policy.sgml Mon Jul 22 11:19:58 2002 > @@ -7383,48 +7383,6 @@ > > > > - > - Accessing the documentation > - > - > - Former Debian releases pla

Re: /usr/doc

2002-07-22 Thread Colin Watson
1:19:58 2002 > @@ -7383,48 +7383,6 @@ > > > > - > - Accessing the documentation > - > - > - Former Debian releases placed all additional documentation > - in /usr/doc/package. To realize a > - smooth migration to > - /us

Bug#69311: PROPOSAL] Symlinks in /usr/doc not mandatory anymore.

2002-07-22 Thread Santiago Vila
-policy-3.5.6.1/policy.sgml Mon Jul 22 11:19:58 2002 @@ -7383,48 +7383,6 @@ - - Accessing the documentation - - - Former Debian releases placed all additional documentation - in /usr/doc/package. To realize a - smooth migration to - /usr

Re: /usr/doc

2002-07-22 Thread Roland Mas
Santiago Vila (2002-07-22 12:02:56 +0200) : [...] > I'm looking for seconds for this proposal, which is *just* to stop > requiring symlinks. Seconded. Roland. -- Roland Mas ar c t e l l ièu ai ia mi. -- Signatures à collectionner, série n°1, partie 2/3. pgpW2LKqAfnY

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2002-07-22 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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Re: /usr/doc

2002-07-22 Thread Santiago Vila
retitle 69311 [PROPOSAL] Symlinks in /usr/doc not mandatory anymore. thanks [ I naively proposed something like this after the release of potato, but it was not the right time... ]. Proposed patch to current policy: diff -r -u debian-policy-3.5.6.1.orig/policy.sgml debian-policy-3.5.6.1

Re: /usr/doc

2002-07-22 Thread Santiago Vila
pose Santiago'll also be uploading a base-files without > /usr/doc, if he hasn't already. I did that in base-files_2.2.15 but restored it in base-files_3.0.0 because, according to Manoj, it was completely acceptable for a package to blindly assume that /usr/doc exists when creating o

Re: /usr/doc

2002-07-22 Thread Peter Palfrader
On Mon, 22 Jul 2002, Joey Hess wrote: > Santiago Vila wrote: > > We have never released "suddenly" a new stable distribution, and I don't > > think sarge will be an exception. People have the complete lifetime of > > woody to change habits, if they are very use

Re: /usr/doc

2002-07-22 Thread Joe Drew
erhaps? Do we really have to enforce the FHS on users' systems? If we remove all the symlinks in /usr/doc (which should be all that is in there from up-to-date Debian packages, right?), check if /usr/doc is empty, and remove it if so, shouldn't that be enough? There's no reason even

Re: /usr/doc

2002-07-22 Thread Joey Hess
Anthony Towns wrote: > Anyway, I'd thought we were considering removing all the symlinks in one > shot rather than waiting for every package to be updated. Indeed, Manoj's > message to the tech ctte said: Yes, we can do that. Things to watch out for: - old aliened packages

Re: /usr/doc

2002-07-21 Thread Joey Hess
Santiago Vila wrote: > We have never released "suddenly" a new stable distribution, and I don't > think sarge will be an exception. People have the complete lifetime of > woody to change habits, if they are very used to do "cd /usr/doc". zsh-folk may find t

Re: /usr/doc

2002-07-21 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sun, Jul 21, 2002 at 05:12:52PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > If noone who is faimilar with the history and aims of this transition > has any objects, the I will upload the new debhelper tomorrow, I guess. Sounds good. I suppose Santiago'll also be uploading a base-files without /usr

Re: /usr/doc

2002-07-21 Thread Santiago Vila
Adam Heath wrote: > We first need a script to remove /usr/doc itself, and make it a symlink to > share/doc, before you start removing the debhelper code. > > Otherwise, suddenly /usr/doc becomes empty, and those that access > documentation thru that location suddenly can't. We

Re: /usr/doc

2002-07-21 Thread Santiago Vila
Adam Heath wrote: > Er, this symlink was just recently made. Which means all existing browsers > still use /usr/info/dir. I don't know about the others, but the standard info reader (from the texinfo package) supports the dir file being either in /usr/info or /usr/share/info. It uses whichever on

Re: /usr/doc

2002-07-21 Thread Bdale Garbee
ion is complete, /usr/doc is no more, and /usr/share/doc is the place to look might be worth including when the time comes... if we get it done. :-) Bdale -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: /usr/doc

2002-07-21 Thread Adam Heath
On Sun, 21 Jul 2002, Joey Hess wrote: > No, I want to see no /usr/doc. If you want to make some symlink be my guest, > but /usr/doc is a FHS violation. So? We have other FHS violations. We don't follow it strictly. > The transition plan, which you have had 3 years to comment

Re: /usr/doc

2002-07-21 Thread Joey Hess
Adam Heath wrote: > That was years ago. And, now that we are at this point, we should do > it right, and not following the recommendation given by some group of > people long ago that didn't forsee this problem. That is false. We forsaw this problem 3 years ago, discussed this very issue, came up

Re: /usr/doc

2002-07-21 Thread Joey Hess
Adam Heath wrote: > So, you'd rather see a half-empty /usr/doc, which is not very useful, then to > have a script, that links /usr/doc to share/doc, and would not cause any loss > of functionality? > /usr/doc is much shorter to type, than /usr/share/doc. No, I want to see no

Re: /usr/doc

2002-07-21 Thread Adam Heath
s years ago. And, now that we are at this point, we should do it right, and not following the recommendation given by some group of people long ago that didn't forsee this problem. > Yes, a half-empty /usr/doc is the next stage of the plan, just like a > half-empty /usr/share/doc was

Re: /usr/doc

2002-07-21 Thread Chris Waters
On Sun, Jul 21, 2002 at 03:32:46PM -0500, Adam Heath wrote: > So, you'd rather see a half-empty /usr/doc, which is not very > useful, then to have a script, that links /usr/doc to share/doc, and > would not cause any loss of functionality? Oh, no no no! We're not reopenin

Re: /usr/doc

2002-07-21 Thread Adam Heath
On Sun, 21 Jul 2002, Joey Hess wrote: > Adam Heath wrote: > > Otherwise, suddenly /usr/doc becomes empty, and those that access > > documentation thru that location suddenly can't. > > Um, those people have had a major release of debian which documents that > the do

Re: /usr/doc

2002-07-21 Thread Joey Hess
Adam Heath wrote: > Otherwise, suddenly /usr/doc becomes empty, and those that access > documentation thru that location suddenly can't. Um, those people have had a major release of debian which documents that the docs are in /usr/share/doc, and several years to become prepared for

Re: /usr/doc

2002-07-21 Thread Adam Heath
On Sat, 20 Jul 2002, Joey Hess wrote: > So would anyone murder me if the code in debhelper to make postinst > scripts manage /usr/doc links just went missing? This would of course > cause the link to go away when packages were upgraded to versions built > with the new debhelper. Si

Re: /usr/doc

2002-07-21 Thread Adam Heath
On Sun, 21 Jul 2002, Santiago Vila wrote: > Adam Heath wrote: > > /usr/info/dir was just recently moved, with dpkg 1.10. That file is now a > > symlink to /usr/share/info/dir. > > We should not need /usr/info/dir as a symlink. install-info works ok > without the symlink, the standard info browser

Re: /usr/doc

2002-07-21 Thread Santiago Vila
Joey Hess wrote: > So would anyone murder me if the code in debhelper to make postinst > scripts manage /usr/doc links just went missing? There would be reasons to murder you if you *don't* do that change ;-) Adam Heath wrote: > /usr/info/dir was just recently moved, with dpkg 1.

Re: /usr/doc

2002-07-20 Thread Colin Watson
On Sat, Jul 20, 2002 at 09:09:26PM -0500, Adam Heath wrote: > On Sat, 20 Jul 2002, Joey Hess wrote: > > So would anyone murder me if the code in debhelper to make postinst > > scripts manage /usr/doc links just went missing? This would of course > > cause the link to go aw

Re: /usr/doc

2002-07-20 Thread Adam Heath
On Sat, 20 Jul 2002, Marco d'Itri wrote: > (What about /usr/info <-> /usr/share/info ?) /usr/info/dir was just recently moved, with dpkg 1.10. That file is now a symlink to /usr/share/info/dir. Once all files are moved from /usr/info(there's a few left), and all info browsers read from /usr/sha

Re: /usr/doc

2002-07-20 Thread Adam Heath
On Sat, 20 Jul 2002, Joey Hess wrote: > So would anyone murder me if the code in debhelper to make postinst > scripts manage /usr/doc links just went missing? This would of course > cause the link to go away when packages were upgraded to versions built > with the new debhelper. Si

Re: /usr/doc

2002-07-20 Thread Chris Waters
On Sat, Jul 20, 2002 at 12:56:10PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > So would anyone murder me if the code in debhelper to make postinst > scripts manage /usr/doc links just went missing? We really should make the corresponding change to policy too, but I won't complain if debhelper leads pol

Re: /usr/doc

2002-07-20 Thread Chris Lawrence
On Jul 20, Joey Hess wrote: > So would anyone murder me if the code in debhelper to make postinst > scripts manage /usr/doc links just went missing? This would of course > cause the link to go away when packages were upgraded to versions built > with the new debhelper. Since we'

Re: /usr/doc

2002-07-20 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Jul 20, Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >So would anyone murder me if the code in debhelper to make postinst >scripts manage /usr/doc links just went missing? This would of course Please do. (What about /usr/info <-> /usr/share/info ?) -- ciao, Marco -- To UNS

Re: /usr/doc

2002-07-20 Thread Joerg Jaspert
Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > So would anyone murder me if the code in debhelper to make postinst > scripts manage /usr/doc links just went missing? This would of course > cause the link to go away when packages were upgraded to versions built > with the new debhelp

Re: /usr/doc

2002-07-20 Thread Roland Mas
Joey Hess (2002-07-20 12:56:10 -0400) : > So would anyone murder me if the code in debhelper to make postinst > scripts manage /usr/doc links just went missing? I wouldn't. And this is a second. Roland. -- Roland Mas Un clavier azerty en vaut deux. pgpTKbZSRcLyw.pgp Descr

Re: /usr/doc

2002-07-20 Thread Peter Palfrader
On Sat, 20 Jul 2002, Joey Hess wrote: > So would anyone murder me if the code in debhelper to make postinst > scripts manage /usr/doc links just went missing? This would of course > cause the link to go away when packages were upgraded to versions built > with the new debhelper. Si

/usr/doc

2002-07-20 Thread Joey Hess
So would anyone murder me if the code in debhelper to make postinst scripts manage /usr/doc links just went missing? This would of course cause the link to go away when packages were upgraded to versions built with the new debhelper. Since we'll be recompiling lots of stuff anyway in sarge fo

Removal of /usr/doc/ symlinks

2002-05-21 Thread Bob Hilliard
Any packages uploaded to unstable now are (presumably) intended for woody+1. Is it appropriate to omit the /usr/doc/ symlinks in packages being uploaded currently, or should this wait for a post-woody release of debian-policy? Bob -- _ |_) _ |_ Robert D. Hilliard <[EM

Bug#102199: marked as done ([ACCEPTED 2001/07/11] Next stage in usr/doc -> usr/share/doc transition)

2001-08-18 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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Bug#102199: Next stage in usr/doc -> usr/share/doc transition

2001-06-26 Thread Joey Hess
d error messages (sorta common)? > > Programmatically, mainly. Well then I don't have any real objections. Aside from the web servers, and possibly document indexing systems like dhelp and so on, I suppose the number of programs that hard code /usr/doc is pretty rare. And a sizable chunk of

Bug#102199: Next stage in usr/doc -> usr/share/doc transition

2001-06-26 Thread Stephen Stafford
ian, so if this is way off base then > ignore me) Further to this: stephen:~$ cat wrongmanpages undocumented.7 (not really apposite as /usr/doc *is* a valid place for undocumented.7 to point to, /usr/share/doc should be listed first maybe, or even listed at all?) liloconfig.8 k

Bug#102199: Next stage in usr/doc -> usr/share/doc transition

2001-06-26 Thread Stephen Stafford
ht way to go about generating a list of affected packages? (I don't really have any idea of the internals of lintian, so if this is way off base then ignore me) > > It also has the problem of the web server policy still requiring that > "HTML documents for a package are stored in

Bug#102199: Next stage in usr/doc -> usr/share/doc transition

2001-06-26 Thread Anthony Towns
f grepping. > It also has the problem of the web server policy still requiring that > "HTML documents for a package are stored in `/usr/share/doc/' > but should be accessed via symlinks as `/usr/doc/'" (So at the > minimum, your policy patch needs to deal with that

Bug#102199: Next stage in usr/doc -> usr/share/doc transition

2001-06-26 Thread Joey Hess
Anthony Towns wrote: > I think the most efficient way of handling usr/doc for woody will be to > have everything reference /usr/share/doc, and require all packages to > put their files in /usr/share/doc, and to make symlinks in /usr/doc. The > latter is mainly for partial upgrades. >

Bug#102199: Next stage in usr/doc -> usr/share/doc transition

2001-06-25 Thread Chris Waters
uments for a package are stored in > -/usr/share/doc/package but should > -be accessed via symlinks as > -/usr/doc/package > - > - for backward compatibility

Bug#102199: Next stage in usr/doc -> usr/share/doc transition

2001-06-25 Thread Stephen Stafford
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 25 June 2001 11:42 am, Anthony Towns wrote: > Package: debian-policy > Version: 3.5.5.0 > > I think the most efficient way of handling usr/doc for woody will be > to have everything reference /usr/share/doc, and require all pa

Bug#102199: Next stage in usr/doc -> usr/share/doc transition

2001-06-25 Thread Colin Watson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Anthony Towns wrote: >I think the most efficient way of handling usr/doc for woody will be to >have everything reference /usr/share/doc, and require all packages to >put their files in /usr/share/doc, and to make symlinks in /usr/doc. The &

Bug#102199: Next stage in usr/doc -> usr/share/doc transition

2001-06-25 Thread Anthony Towns
Package: debian-policy Version: 3.5.5.0 I think the most efficient way of handling usr/doc for woody will be to have everything reference /usr/share/doc, and require all packages to put their files in /usr/share/doc, and to make symlinks in /usr/doc. The latter is mainly for partial upgrades. To

Bug#89807: marked as done (packaging-manual still refers to /usr/doc)

2001-03-15 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Your message dated Thu, 15 Mar 2001 23:35:23 + with message-id <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> and subject line Bug#89807: packaging-manual still refers to /usr/doc has caused the attached Bug report to be marked as done. This means that you claim that the problem has been dealt with. If this is n

Bug#89807: packaging-manual still refers to /usr/doc

2001-03-15 Thread Adrian Bunk
Package: packaging-manual Version: 3.2.1.0 Severity: normal $ zgrep usr/doc /usr/doc/packaging-manual/packaging.text.gz `/usr/doc/copyright/GPL' in the Debian GNU/Linux distribution or on dpkg --fsys-tarfile .deb | tar xof usr/doc/<\*>copyright | less file fro

Bug#42477: marked as done ([OLD PROPOSAL] delay the /usr/doc transition till after potato)

2001-02-21 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
700 Received: from xtifr by thrak with local (Exim 2.11 #1 (Debian)) id 11CA34-0003Gd-00; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 16:02:14 -0700 From: Chris Waters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PROPOSED} delay the /usr/doc transition till after potato Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7

Bug#40864: marked as done (debian-policy: Section 5.8 refers to /usr/doc/package)

2001-02-21 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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Bug#40706: marked as done ([REJECTED 21/7/99] /usr/share/doc vs. /usr/doc transition)

2001-02-21 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
02:27:02 +0200 Date: Sun, 4 Jul 1999 02:27:01 +0200 From: Roland Rosenfeld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: /usr/share/doc vs. /usr/doc Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/0.96.3i Sender: [EMAIL P

Bug#69311: PROPOSAL] Finishing the /usr/doc -> /usr/share/doc transition.

2000-08-28 Thread Joey Hess
Anthony Towns wrote: > I think though, probably because policy wasn't very clear about this, > that packages in potato already look in /usr/share/doc for documentation, > so they're already broken, and this may no longer really matter. At least apache seems to still use /usr/d

Bug#69311: PROPOSAL] Finishing the /usr/doc -> /usr/share/doc transition.

2000-08-28 Thread Joey Hess
Santiago Vila wrote: > Please note that not every dependency or conflict is explicit. You > can't read new manpages using an old enough man-db package, unless you > make a little bit of tweaking in the configuration file, and we don't > speak about "breakage" because of the need of this tweaking.

Bug#69311: PROPOSAL] Finishing the /usr/doc -> /usr/share/doc transition.

2000-08-27 Thread Anthony Towns
can change the recommendation in policy something like: Former Debian releases placed all additional documentation in `/usr/doc/'. To realize a smooth migration to `/usr/share/doc/', each package must maintain a symlink `/usr/doc/' that points to the new location of its -

Bug#69311: PROPOSAL] Finishing the /usr/doc -> /usr/share/doc transition.

2000-08-26 Thread Santiago Vila
like current potato, which is a mix of FHS and non-FHS. "If you move things around, dpkg will get very upset" it was said a lot of times. Well, with the dpkg in potato this is no longer true, and for most (if not all) packages still using /usr/doc it is currently possible to do this: cd

Bug#69311: PROPOSAL] Finishing the /usr/doc -> /usr/share/doc transition.

2000-08-24 Thread Raul Miller
nsively during the development phase of Woody. Introducing breakage would slow down the release of Woody, and would interfere with proper testing of the rest of the system.] Also, introducing dependencies to manage the /usr/doc/ transition would add a whole new suite of problems. If you care to

Bug#69311: PROPOSAL] Finishing the /usr/doc -> /usr/share/doc transition.

2000-08-24 Thread Santiago Vila
dification of the original plan, by letting the two transitions which still have to be done to overlap: 1. Packages use /usr/share/doc. This transition is 79% complete. We expect it to be complete by the time woody is released. 2. Packages do not create any symlinks in /usr/doc. This transit

Bug#69311: PROPOSAL] Finishing the /usr/doc -> /usr/share/doc transition.

2000-08-23 Thread Manoj Srivastava
>>"Santiago" == Santiago Vila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Santiago> 930 packages when looking for usr/doc and Santiago> 3565/(3565+930) = 79% of packages already use /usr/share/doc. Santiago> This is exactly where I think there is a major flaw in the Santi

Bug#69311: PROPOSAL] Finishing the /usr/doc -> /usr/share/doc transition.

2000-08-23 Thread Santiago Vila
On 22 Aug 2000, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > I see woody release and making not having docs in > /usr/share/doc/ as an RC bug as being the stick that shall > ensuer compliance (I currently have 170 packages on *my* machine that > are not compliant). > __> zgrep ^usr/do

Bug#69311: PROPOSAL] Finishing the /usr/doc -> /usr/share/doc transition.

2000-08-22 Thread Manoj Srivastava
>>"Santiago" == Santiago Vila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Santiago> On 20 Aug 2000, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> What is wrong with the plan currently in place? Santiago> It will slow down the goal of FHS compliance (inclusing an empty Santiago> /usr/do

Bug#69311: PROPOSAL] Finishing the /usr/doc -> /usr/share/doc transition.

2000-08-21 Thread Raul Miller
On Mon, Aug 21, 2000 at 12:20:08PM -0700, Chris Waters wrote: > Things have *not* gone as planned so far. So, saying "stick with the > plan, stick with the plan" seems a bit myopic. We're already not > sticking with the plan, which involved releasing Potato in time for > Christmas '99, IIRC. > >

Bug#69311: PROPOSAL] Finishing the /usr/doc -> /usr/share/doc transition.

2000-08-21 Thread Joey Hess
f actual dates in the decision point to that being the case. Not to mention the whole symlink thing. If we started removing /usr/doc links right now, what would happen? Apache's http://localhost/doc would start having holes in it for one. Yes, it still uses /usr/doc. I think dhelp would brea

Bug#69311: PROPOSAL] Finishing the /usr/doc -> /usr/share/doc transition.

2000-08-21 Thread Chris Waters
(Side comment: Joey, setting mail-followup-to both the bug number and the policy list, when the bug is a bug against policy, is really not a great plan.) On Sun, Aug 20, 2000 at 03:23:39PM -0700, Joey Hess wrote: > Have you read http://lists.debian.org/debian-ctte-9909/msg00023.html and > http://

Bug#69311: PROPOSAL] Finishing the /usr/doc -> /usr/share/doc transition.

2000-08-21 Thread Santiago Vila
On 20 Aug 2000, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > What is wrong with the plan currently in place? It will slow down the goal of FHS compliance (inclusing an empty /usr/doc) even more. I thought the plan was that for each given Debian distribution, we should be telling our users to look for docs i

Bug#69311: PROPOSAL] Finishing the /usr/doc -> /usr/share/doc transition.

2000-08-20 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, I think I must object to this proposal. I think nothing good can come out of this hastening of the planned transition; espescially since no good reaso is given as to why we must sccelrate the transition process. What is wrong with the plan currently in place? manoj -- You

Re: Bug#69311: [PROPOSAL] Finishing the /usr/doc -> /usr/share/doc transition.

2000-08-20 Thread Joey Hess
Santiago Vila wrote: > Now that potato has been released, I propose that we start deprecating > the /usr/doc compatibility symlinks, at the same time we make > using /usr/share/doc a nearly-release-goal for woody. Have you read http://lists.debian.org/debian-ctte-9909/msg00023.html

Bug#69311: PROPOSAL] Finishing the /usr/doc -> /usr/share/doc transition.

2000-08-20 Thread Chris Waters
On Sun, Aug 20, 2000 at 08:56:29PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: [re: getting rid of symlinks in /usr/doc] > That means it's already a bug if a package doesn't remove this link in > it's prerm. Ah, so it is. Good point. In that case, I withdraw my objection and second Santiag

Bug#69311: PROPOSAL] Finishing the /usr/doc -> /usr/share/doc transition.

2000-08-20 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sun, Aug 20, 2000 at 11:31:32AM -0700, Chris Waters wrote: > On Thu, Aug 17, 2000 at 12:16:34PM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: > > Now that potato has been released, I propose that we start deprecating > > the /usr/doc compatibility symlinks, at the same time we make > > u

Bug#69311: PROPOSAL] Finishing the /usr/doc -> /usr/share/doc transition.

2000-08-20 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sun, 20 Aug 2000, Chris Waters wrote: > I think an addendum is needed to this proposal -- if any package *has* > had symlinks in /usr/doc, then it needs to clean them up in its > install scripts, now, and possibly forever. > > This is one of the reasons I objected to the symlin

Bug#69311: PROPOSAL] Finishing the /usr/doc -> /usr/share/doc transition.

2000-08-20 Thread Chris Waters
On Thu, Aug 17, 2000 at 12:16:34PM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: > Now that potato has been released, I propose that we start deprecating > the /usr/doc compatibility symlinks, at the same time we make > using /usr/share/doc a nearly-release-goal for woody. I think an addendum is neede

Bug#69311: PROPOSAL] Finishing the /usr/doc -> /usr/share/doc transition.

2000-08-17 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Thu, Aug 17, 2000 at 12:16:34PM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: > > Now that potato has been released, I propose that we start deprecating > the /usr/doc compatibility symlinks, at the same time we make > using /usr/share/doc a nearly-release-goal for woody. [...] > I'm loo

Bug#69311: PROPOSAL] Finishing the /usr/doc -> /usr/share/doc transition.

2000-08-17 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Aug 17, Santiago Vila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Now that potato has been released, I propose that we start deprecating >the /usr/doc compatibility symlinks, at the same time we make >using /usr/share/doc a nearly-release-goal for woody. Seconded. -- ciao, Marco

Bug#69311: [PROPOSAL] Finishing the /usr/doc -> /usr/share/doc transition.

2000-08-17 Thread Santiago Vila
Package: debian-policy Severity: wishlist Now that potato has been released, I propose that we start deprecating the /usr/doc compatibility symlinks, at the same time we make using /usr/share/doc a nearly-release-goal for woody. The idea is, assuming this proposal is accepted: * We modify

Re: Bug#23661: usr/doc should not be accessible through http servers by default

2000-07-11 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, Though trying to provide the equivalent of /etc/hosts.{allow,deny} for services not controlled by tcp wrappers and inetd is laudable, this specific case could easily be addressed by a simple change in the default access.conf (this is apache specific, I am sure other servers have eq

Re: Bug#23661: usr/doc should not be accessible through http servers by default

2000-07-11 Thread Manoj Srivastava
e> from using the web to browse the docs from all the machines Steve> but one. Umm. Not quite. If the other machines are not running a web server, you can't access /usr/doc from them. Perhaps you meant, if they were all running web servers, and exporting /usr/doc, you cou

Bug#23661: usr/doc should not be accessible through http servers by default

2000-06-22 Thread Raul Miller
proposal, but I think this is better than just > referring to /usr/doc. > > I think this is more of a "show me the code" type of situation. I need to think through the concepts a bit more before I try tackling code. [A proof of concept doesn't seem hard -- what seems hard is a

Bug#23661: usr/doc should not be accessible through http servers by default

2000-06-21 Thread Julian Gilbey
stion > or three, so that people can choose whether they want this level of detail > at config time, and then leave the rest up to package implementation. This sounds really interesting. I think it needs some work before it becomes a policy proposal, but I think this is better tha

Bug#23661: usr/doc should not be accessible through http servers by default

2000-06-20 Thread Turbo Fredriksson
>>>>> "Martin" == Martin Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Martin> Julian Gilbey wrote: >> Here's an issue. About two years ago there was a proposal that >> the default httpd setup should not allow /usr/doc to be >>

Bug#23661: usr/doc should not be accessible through http servers by default

2000-06-20 Thread Martin Schulze
Julian Gilbey wrote: > Here's an issue. About two years ago there was a proposal that the > default httpd setup should not allow /usr/doc to be remotely > accessible, as it's a huge security risk. (Yes, we're talking about a > small amount of "security through ob

Bug#23661: usr/doc should not be accessible through http servers by default

2000-06-20 Thread Chris Waters
On Tue, Jun 20, 2000 at 02:35:45PM +0200, Petr Cech wrote: > On Tue, Jun 20, 2000 at 09:58:01AM +0100 , Julian Gilbey wrote: > > Here's an issue. About two years ago there was a proposal that the > > default httpd setup should not allow /usr/doc to be remotely > >

Bug#23661: usr/doc should not be accessible through http servers by default

2000-06-20 Thread Julian Gilbey
On Tue, Jun 20, 2000 at 09:13:47AM -0400, Steve Robbins wrote: > > Here's an issue. About two years ago there was a proposal that the > > default httpd setup should not allow /usr/doc to be remotely > > accessible, as it's a huge security risk. (Yes, we're ta

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