Re: [darktable-dev] Noise reduction

2022-05-02 Thread Heiko Bauke
Dear Jan, Am 02.05.22 um 09:22 schrieb Jan Ingwer Baer: Are there any plans to add additional NR algorithms like KREMY (http://aggregate.org/DIT/KREMY/) to DT? for incorporation into darktable, 3rd party components must be published as open source under a license that is compatible with the G

Re: [darktable-dev] noise

2018-11-05 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Andrey [11-05-18 15:02]: > New feature (filters stack widget) to rearrange filters, pin filter to > apply changes in place where it was initiated :) > *It's not clear where the last change (on top of the history) is applied. > > > пн, 5 нояб. 2018 г. в 22:29, William Ferguson : > > > I like t

Re: [darktable-dev] noise

2018-11-05 Thread Andrey
New feature (filters stack widget) to rearrange filters, pin filter to apply changes in place where it was initiated :) *It's not clear where the last change (on top of the history) is applied. пн, 5 нояб. 2018 г. в 22:29, William Ferguson : > I like the last photo. I think that really captures

Re: [darktable-dev] noise

2018-11-05 Thread Moritz Moeller
On 5.11.18 09:34, Rolf Meyerhoff wrote: if you have followed the UI refactoring discussion lately then you will have noticed that the intended target audience for DT are programmers and graphics nerds who really know what each module does, [...] Rolf nails the issue. The basic problem this dis

Re: [darktable-dev] noise

2018-11-05 Thread William Ferguson
I like the last photo. I think that really captures the essence of darktable. :-) I stopped at the denoise and didn't really set out to finish processing the image, so the colors on the bear aren't the same. However, the detail is still there and wasn't affected by the denoising. I did blow th

Re: [darktable-dev] noise

2018-11-05 Thread Jan Ingwer Baer
After reading all the posts in this thread i want send my own view to this. RT and DT are both great tools with different pros and cons. The most important points for me are: RT is much simpler to use and the denoise-modul gives great results without hour-long parameter tweaking or years of le

Re: [darktable-dev] noise

2018-11-05 Thread Rolf Meyerhoff
Hi, I'm a programmer, graphics nerd and photographer so DT fits me very well. :-) I really like to have all the power of DT available when I need it. Recently I had to edit over 1500 scans of very degenerated photos from the 70s and DT did a fantastic job that no other raw converter could have do

Re: [darktable-dev] noise

2018-11-05 Thread Andrey
Thank you for the detailed answer. It is worth placing on DT's main page. пн, 5 нояб. 2018 г. в 17:47, Rolf Meyerhoff : > Hi, > > if you have followed the UI refactoring discussion lately then you will > have noticed that the intended target audience for DT are programmers > and graphics nerds wh

Re: [darktable-dev] noise

2018-11-05 Thread Maurizio Paglia
Hi Rolf, I am not a programmer nor a graphic nerd. I simply take potographs in my spare time. I like dt because I know I have in my hands a powerful tool. No matter if I use it 100% or 10% I know dt is SO powerful thereby I have a large margin for improvement. Moreover I feel curious and I like to

Re: [darktable-dev] noise

2018-11-05 Thread Rolf Meyerhoff
Hi, if you have followed the UI refactoring discussion lately then you will have noticed that the intended target audience for DT are programmers and graphics nerds who really know what each module does, in which order the modules have to be edited, how the modules interact with each other, when t

Re: [darktable-dev] noise

2018-11-05 Thread Andrey
You are the man! At last I saw it with my own eyes. I will try to repeat this but I would appreciate for preset to learn on. Thanks, Dominik! пн, 5 нояб. 2018 г. в 16:30, Dominik Markiewicz : > Hi, > > > The issue with darktable is that nobody can make the image as clear, as > with RT or DPP. Wit

Re: [darktable-dev] noise

2018-11-05 Thread johannes hanika
..that old picture again? it has a ton of noise in green. fwiw i like what i can do in dt better than the fine grained noise that stays in the OP's RT version. but as pascal pointed out, it seems to be a waste of time to comment on this here. noise preferences are very subjective, and yes, by all m

Re: [darktable-dev] noise

2018-11-05 Thread Andrey
I like DT. I've spent a lot of time exploring related materials, trying to get most of nr. I prepared a demonstrative picture and asked people to teach me (time to time - forums and irc channel - last 2 years). Yes, I keep using DPP. What is the point of my last try here you think?! To sit on a mod

Re: [darktable-dev] noise

2018-11-05 Thread Dominik Markiewicz
Hi, > The issue with darktable is that nobody can make the image as clear, as with RT or DPP. With all of it's power and all of competitors' 2-slider weakness. I believe it's quite good: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1BSQA2Q49RwLVcs9TzB8v79ROW-vR-V4n/view?usp=sharing (also a few seconds, becau

Re: [darktable-dev] noise

2018-11-05 Thread Oskar Maier
Hello Andrey, why do you discuss this on the dev mailing list? Is this supposed to be a bug report or a feature request? Than put it in the appropriate place (but with a proper description of the bug/desire feature). To me it looks more like something for the play raw sub forum ( https://discuss.p

Re: [darktable-dev] noise

2018-11-05 Thread Andrey
пн, 5 нояб. 2018 г. в 14:17, Sturm Flut : > Hi, > > ignoring that this is one of the cases where not setting the camera to > "Auto" would have resulted in a much better picture and avoided most of > the issue to begin with: > Av-priority. Just a technical image to explore nr tools. > > Profiled

Re: [darktable-dev] noise

2018-11-05 Thread Pascal Obry
Hi Andrey, Sorry guys - nobody showed me the power of dt yet. > Thanks. Sorry for disturbance. Good luck. > Your messages sound like nothing will make you change your mind. You're set on a mode where you think dt is a crap at denoising images. So no problem. Keep using DPP is this fits your need

Re: [darktable-dev] noise

2018-11-05 Thread Sturm Flut
Hi, ignoring that this is one of the cases where not setting the camera to "Auto" would have resulted in a much better picture and avoided most of the issue to begin with: Profiled Denoise in Wavelet mode with strength 0.2 already looks pretty identical to what DPP does, at least to me. XMP is at

Re: [darktable-dev] noise

2018-11-05 Thread Andrey
Sorry guys - nobody showed me the power of dt yet. Thanks. Sorry for disturbance. Good luck. пн, 5 нояб. 2018 г. в 13:48, Maurizio Paglia : > Ciao Andrey, > believe me: I understand your frustration but I can assure dt can give you > optimal results with no pain. > Its GUI can intimidate many use

Re: [darktable-dev] noise

2018-11-05 Thread Maurizio Paglia
Ciao Andrey, believe me: I understand your frustration but I can assure dt can give you optimal results with no pain. Its GUI can intimidate many users because it is "Linux style" (RT imitate LR so it is more friendly to many people) but you cannot have power with a 'single slider' interface... Mor

Re: [darktable-dev] noise

2018-11-05 Thread Andrey
I have read the manual. Please, read the whole discussion and try to process the image with RT close enough to DPP or RT. Note the time and compare results side by side. Thank you. пн, 5 нояб. 2018 г. в 12:57, Matej Martinovic : > I haven't read the whole discussion, but have you read the manual?

Re: [darktable-dev] noise

2018-11-05 Thread Matej Martinovic
I haven't read the whole discussion, but have you read the manual? If not, please read "3.4.4.3. Denoise – profiled" in https://www.darktable.org/usermanual/en/correction_group.html All you "need" are two instances. Both can be saved as presets to be automatically applied. BR Matej On

Re: [darktable-dev] noise

2018-11-05 Thread Andrey
I did tried some authored presets found somewhere on the web. And I am still on windows with dpp. You see.. this is not a photographer workflow. DT is some kind of technical toy. I wouldn't try to explain denoise tools logic of DT to my wife who got into photography. This is the main problem. And f

Re: [darktable-dev] noise

2018-11-05 Thread Maurizio Paglia
Hi, just for the record, did you tried to use some presets? I understand dt can appear difficult, so you can try to apply a preset and then - if needed - only adjust some sliders. Tanks, Maurizio Il giorno lun 5 nov 2018 alle ore 09:06 Andrey ha scritto: > I like your work. We have got a nice b

Re: [darktable-dev] noise

2018-11-05 Thread Andrey
I like your work. We have got a nice bench, lever is ok, but the bear.. darktable vs dpp: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1G026G5va8h-V8Mqn0HlghslN7vKnfvwG darktable vs rawtherapee: https://drive.google.com/open?id=15hxaZDOh0Cqrs3IptcEdH_kPjSuu-NR9 I've tried to recover the bear, but my result is

Re: [darktable-dev] noise

2018-11-04 Thread William Ferguson
I loaded DPP and played with the image to see how Canon processed it. Then, I went back to darktable and tried again. Here's what I came up with. https://drive.google.com/open?id=1sM3oq7EDWXtAdqWyMMqwENcf1oP7wK_G XMP is attached. On Sun, Nov 4, 2018 at 3:25 AM Andrey wrote: > Just compare the

Re: [darktable-dev] noise

2018-11-04 Thread Andrey
Just compare the pictures side by side. Your result is rather good for DT, not for RT or Canon DPP. Stains, colored lever, bear's fur is blured. Look at this: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1_s1WzY2D_fgxTs0sjP4ygsPUcnf_GfkA Pay attention to history and NR tool clarity. DT may replace all denoise

Re: [darktable-dev] noise

2018-11-04 Thread Andrey
Yes. But it hasn't rainbow on the bench and has a very detailed bear's fur. And this is just the first, fast try. Look at this: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1_s1WzY2D_fgxTs0sjP4ygsPUcnf_GfkA Pay attention to history and NR tool clarity. This tool IS for photographers. вс, 4 нояб. 2018 г. в 2:1

Re: [darktable-dev] noise

2018-11-03 Thread Per Inge Oestmoen
I noticed that this image shows major loss of contrast and there are large amounts of noice in the shadows: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz9fwFLCJOjNNnZWNjVSYXhaX28/view Per Inge Oestmoen > Andrey wrote: I've spent a huge amount of time watching youtube videos, reading different tutorial

Aw: Re: [darktable-dev] noise

2018-11-03 Thread Rikard Öxler
treff: Re: [darktable-dev] noise I've spent a huge amount of time watching youtube videos, reading different tutorials and testing all the tools DT has. Here are the crops you may look at: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1rqPfr8rHalwvbjJ03Ho-pze4Uxsq3ggh DT gives unacceptable result. I&#

Re: [darktable-dev] noise

2018-11-03 Thread Andrey
I've spent a huge amount of time watching youtube videos, reading different tutorials and testing all the tools DT has. Here are the crops you may look at: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1rqPfr8rHalwvbjJ03Ho-pze4Uxsq3ggh DT gives unacceptable result. I've tried to pop this theme up year by year -

Re: [darktable-dev] noise

2018-11-03 Thread William Ferguson
Try this... To add the styles to darktable - save the styles, then in lighttable mode open the styles dialog and click import, select the files, then import them. Each one is standalone, so if you start with 1 and it's not enough then you try 2, 2 will overwrite 1. The higher the number the stro

Re: [darktable-dev] noise

2018-11-03 Thread Ger Siemerink
did you try demosaic; PPG or Amaze and change those options? Op za 3 nov. 2018 om 17:59 schreef Andrey L : > Hello, guys. Canon DPP makes me crazy, but DT is unable to compete with > neither Canon DPP, nor RawTherapee :( > Could you please pay some attention to DarkTable's noise removal > opportu

Re: [darktable-dev] Noise profile Sony ILCE-7RM3

2017-12-17 Thread Bob Tregilus
Done! And thank you Stefan! :) And Pete, yes, I had found your blog at https://landscrapes.wordpress. com/2016/05/10/darktable/ regarding sensor profiling. Oops, now that I look at it, I take that back, I hadn't seen yours. Thanks, I'll review it. I'd really like to work through this process f

Re: [darktable-dev] Noise profile Sony ILCE-7RM3

2017-12-17 Thread Stefan Schöfegger
Hi please create a ticket at https://redmine.darktable.org/projects/darktable/issues/new and add your link there. I have done the noise profiling and I will attach it to your ticket. Result look good and can be used. Stefan > Hi - > > I've been muddling around attempting to create a noise

Re: [darktable-dev] Noise profile Sony ILCE-7RM3

2017-12-16 Thread Pete Hall
I wrote up the process I used for a Canon G3 X. Maybe that can help you get started. https://landscrapes.wordpress.com/2016/05/10/darktable/ My process may not produce enough midtone. I got around that when I did my T7i by draping a cable through the frame from top to bottom. With everything de

Re: [darktable-dev] Noise profiles Fujifilm X-Pro2

2017-12-15 Thread Roman Lebedev
On Sat, Dec 16, 2017 at 12:19 AM, David Vincent-Jones wrote: Hi. > My results and profile data is available at: > https://www.dropbox.com/sh/fnajmbsqdqbh48d/AACIXZfjmlfQLvv19DqQH1CWa?dl=0 Best to open a new issue in redmine, less chance of this being lost. > Works very well. > > David Roman. >

Re: [darktable-dev] Noise Profiles for Panasonic DMC G7/G70

2016-12-01 Thread Stefan Schöfegger
Hi, There was a bug in darktable < 2.2.0rc1 that effected noise profiling. Please rerun the script with an up to date version. Regards, Stefan > Hi, > > I have created noise profiles for the Panasonic Lumix DMC G7/G70 and > uploaded the resulting tar achive to: > > https://www.dropbox.com/s/zaf

Re: [darktable-dev] Noise profile for Sony A7II

2015-12-15 Thread François Tissandier
Ok, great, I will take the shots and share them. Thanks for your quick answer ! François On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 3:35 PM, Pedro Côrte-Real wrote: > On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 2:18 PM, François Tissandier > wrote: > > -is this page up to date ? > > Pretty much so, yes. There are some minor ch

Re: [darktable-dev] Noise profile for Sony A7II

2015-12-15 Thread Pedro Côrte-Real
On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 2:18 PM, François Tissandier wrote: > -is this page up to date ? Pretty much so, yes. There are some minor changes but the process is the same. > -if it is, should I download Darktable from the git repo ? I don't see the > "gen-profile" application on my computer (I'm usi