Hi,
just for the record, did you tried to use some presets?
I understand dt can appear difficult, so you can try to apply a preset and
then - if needed - only adjust some sliders.

Tanks,
Maurizio

Il giorno lun 5 nov 2018 alle ore 09:06 Andrey <parihaar...@gmail.com> ha
scritto:

> I like your work. We have got a nice bench, lever is ok, but the bear..
> darktable vs dpp:
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=1G026G5va8h-V8Mqn0HlghslN7vKnfvwG
> darktable vs rawtherapee:
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=15hxaZDOh0Cqrs3IptcEdH_kPjSuu-NR9
> I've tried to recover the bear, but my result is still far from
> competitors (shadows are awful too).
> Don't you see it's too complex for regular users? I've tried to combine
> several denoise tools with no luck (unlike you).
> We both spent too much time with single image doing something on a hunch.
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=1xWAXmF2_I7BD2XnLgGABoQMMf3ATDBC4
> One could expect super quality from these tons of sliders, switches and so
> on. But we can't get it work like single tool in RT or DPP.
> Rule of thumb: *do not* process noisy image with darktable.
> Could DT just borrow denoise tool from RT? It's very clear, simple and
> makes a great result.
>
>
> пн, 5 нояб. 2018 г. в 7:24, William Ferguson <wpfergu...@gmail.com>:
>
>> I loaded DPP and played with the image to see how Canon processed it.
>> Then, I went back to darktable and tried again.
>>
>> Here's what I came up with.
>> https://drive.google.com/open?id=1sM3oq7EDWXtAdqWyMMqwENcf1oP7wK_G
>>
>> XMP is attached.
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 4, 2018 at 3:25 AM Andrey <parihaar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Just compare the pictures side by side. Your result is rather good for
>>> DT, not for RT or Canon DPP.
>>> Stains, colored lever, bear's fur is blured.
>>> Look at this:
>>> https://drive.google.com/open?id=1_s1WzY2D_fgxTs0sjP4ygsPUcnf_GfkA
>>> Pay attention to history and NR tool clarity.
>>> DT may replace all denoise tools with just a huge list of denoise
>>> profiles. We will try to apply one by one untill good enough result.
>>>
>>> вс, 4 нояб. 2018 г. в 2:10, Per Inge Oestmoen <p...@coldsiberia.org>:
>>>
>>>> I noticed that this image shows major loss of contrast and there are
>>>> large amounts of noice in the shadows:
>>>>
>>>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz9fwFLCJOjNNnZWNjVSYXhaX28/view
>>>>
>>>> Per Inge Oestmoen
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  > Andrey wrote:
>>>> > I've spent a huge amount of time watching youtube videos, reading
>>>> > different tutorials and testing all the tools DT has.
>>>> > Here are the crops you may look at:
>>>> > https://drive.google.com/open?id=1rqPfr8rHalwvbjJ03Ho-pze4Uxsq3ggh
>>>> > DT gives unacceptable result. I've tried to pop this theme up year by
>>>> > year - without any success.
>>>> > DT is a great tool, you are men.. but! One of the most fundamental
>>>> > functions is useless compared to opensource competitor (!).
>>>> > DT's target audience are bachelors of mathematics with cameras (for a
>>>> > while).
>>>> > I will pray for you to get DT close to regular users.
>>>> > Thanks for feedback. And sorry for my english.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > сб, 3 нояб. 2018 г. в 21:05, William Ferguson <wpfergu...@gmail.com
>>>> > <mailto:wpfergu...@gmail.com>>:
>>>> >
>>>> >     Try this...
>>>> >
>>>> >     To add the styles to darktable - save the styles, then in
>>>> lighttable
>>>> >     mode open the styles dialog and click import, select the files,
>>>> then
>>>> >     import them.  Each one is standalone, so if you start with 1 and
>>>> >     it's not enough then you try 2, 2 will overwrite 1.  The higher
>>>> the
>>>> >     number the stronger the settings and I add more modules.
>>>> >
>>>> >     Hope this helps,
>>>> >
>>>> >     Bill
>>>> >
>>>> >     On Sat, Nov 3, 2018 at 12:59 PM Andrey L <parihaar...@gmail.com
>>>> >     <mailto:parihaar...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >         Hello, guys. Canon DPP makes me crazy, but DT is unable
>>>> >         to compete with neither Canon DPP, nor RawTherapee :(
>>>> >         Could you please pay some attention to DarkTable's noise
>>>> removal
>>>> >         opportunities?
>>>> >         I have to spend senconds with Canon DPP to suppress noise on
>>>> >         high-iso image,
>>>> >         I need minutes to get a good result in RawThrerapee, but
>>>> nobody
>>>> >         can spend hours
>>>> >         to make bad result with tons of noise reduction tools. Please,
>>>> >         break the last barrier to DT :`|
>>>> >         Here my example:
>>>> >         original image:
>>>> >         https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Bz9fwFLCJOjNMnJlTzgwcHZOdTA
>>>> >         canon dpp:
>>>> >         https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Bz9fwFLCJOjNc1RoWW9kN3d3V0k
>>>> >         rawtherapee:
>>>> >         https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Bz9fwFLCJOjNNnZWNjVSYXhaX28
>>>> >
>>>> >         The best efforts In general lead to green noise on barbells.
>>>> >         It's too complex problem for regular photographer.
>>>> >
>>>> >
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>>>> Noise Reduction is just another word for Image Destruction.
>>>>
>>>> Per Inge Oestmoen, Norway
>>>>
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