New feature (filters stack widget) to rearrange filters, pin filter to apply changes in place where it was initiated :) *It's not clear where the last change (on top of the history) is applied.
пн, 5 нояб. 2018 г. в 22:29, William Ferguson <wpfergu...@gmail.com>: > I like the last photo. I think that really captures the essence of > darktable. :-) > > I stopped at the denoise and didn't really set out to finish processing > the image, so the colors on the bear aren't the same. However, the detail > is still there and wasn't affected by the denoising. I did blow the > highlights a little while I was processing and didn't bring them back in. > > I actually used fewer denoising modules and less denoising to achieve a > better result. The key to denoising in darktable, is making sure that the > image is ready to denoise. If you apply the basecurve, which happens > automatically, it amplifies the noise tremendously. When you try and > denoise, you then end up with the rainbow effects. I ran DPP, RT, and DT > all at the same time. I then adjusted DT's image (histogram) until it was > similar to RT. I then applied the gamma curve from DPP to both of them. > At that point there wasn't a lot of noise in the RT or DT image, so > denoisiing them became a simple process. I actually denoised DT's image > quicker because I only used 3 modules and 2 blending modes. It took longer > to work my way through RT's sliders and drop downs. :-) > > On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 3:05 AM Andrey <parihaar...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I like your work. We have got a nice bench, lever is ok, but the bear.. >> darktable vs dpp: >> https://drive.google.com/open?id=1G026G5va8h-V8Mqn0HlghslN7vKnfvwG >> darktable vs rawtherapee: >> https://drive.google.com/open?id=15hxaZDOh0Cqrs3IptcEdH_kPjSuu-NR9 >> I've tried to recover the bear, but my result is still far from >> competitors (shadows are awful too). >> Don't you see it's too complex for regular users? I've tried to combine >> several denoise tools with no luck (unlike you). >> We both spent too much time with single image doing something on a hunch. >> https://drive.google.com/open?id=1xWAXmF2_I7BD2XnLgGABoQMMf3ATDBC4 >> One could expect super quality from these tons of sliders, switches and >> so on. But we can't get it work like single tool in RT or DPP. >> Rule of thumb: *do not* process noisy image with darktable. >> Could DT just borrow denoise tool from RT? It's very clear, simple and >> makes a great result. >> >> >> пн, 5 нояб. 2018 г. в 7:24, William Ferguson <wpfergu...@gmail.com>: >> >>> I loaded DPP and played with the image to see how Canon processed it. >>> Then, I went back to darktable and tried again. >>> >>> Here's what I came up with. >>> https://drive.google.com/open?id=1sM3oq7EDWXtAdqWyMMqwENcf1oP7wK_G >>> >>> XMP is attached. >>> >>> On Sun, Nov 4, 2018 at 3:25 AM Andrey <parihaar...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Just compare the pictures side by side. Your result is rather good for >>>> DT, not for RT or Canon DPP. >>>> Stains, colored lever, bear's fur is blured. >>>> Look at this: >>>> https://drive.google.com/open?id=1_s1WzY2D_fgxTs0sjP4ygsPUcnf_GfkA >>>> Pay attention to history and NR tool clarity. >>>> DT may replace all denoise tools with just a huge list of denoise >>>> profiles. We will try to apply one by one untill good enough result. >>>> >>>> вс, 4 нояб. 2018 г. в 2:10, Per Inge Oestmoen <p...@coldsiberia.org>: >>>> >>>>> I noticed that this image shows major loss of contrast and there are >>>>> large amounts of noice in the shadows: >>>>> >>>>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz9fwFLCJOjNNnZWNjVSYXhaX28/view >>>>> >>>>> Per Inge Oestmoen >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> > Andrey wrote: >>>>> > I've spent a huge amount of time watching youtube videos, reading >>>>> > different tutorials and testing all the tools DT has. >>>>> > Here are the crops you may look at: >>>>> > https://drive.google.com/open?id=1rqPfr8rHalwvbjJ03Ho-pze4Uxsq3ggh >>>>> > DT gives unacceptable result. I've tried to pop this theme up year by >>>>> > year - without any success. >>>>> > DT is a great tool, you are men.. but! One of the most fundamental >>>>> > functions is useless compared to opensource competitor (!). >>>>> > DT's target audience are bachelors of mathematics with cameras (for a >>>>> > while). >>>>> > I will pray for you to get DT close to regular users. >>>>> > Thanks for feedback. And sorry for my english. >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > сб, 3 нояб. 2018 г. в 21:05, William Ferguson <wpfergu...@gmail.com >>>>> > <mailto:wpfergu...@gmail.com>>: >>>>> > >>>>> > Try this... >>>>> > >>>>> > To add the styles to darktable - save the styles, then in >>>>> lighttable >>>>> > mode open the styles dialog and click import, select the files, >>>>> then >>>>> > import them. Each one is standalone, so if you start with 1 and >>>>> > it's not enough then you try 2, 2 will overwrite 1. The higher >>>>> the >>>>> > number the stronger the settings and I add more modules. >>>>> > >>>>> > Hope this helps, >>>>> > >>>>> > Bill >>>>> > >>>>> > On Sat, Nov 3, 2018 at 12:59 PM Andrey L <parihaar...@gmail.com >>>>> > <mailto:parihaar...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> > Hello, guys. Canon DPP makes me crazy, but DT is unable >>>>> > to compete with neither Canon DPP, nor RawTherapee :( >>>>> > Could you please pay some attention to DarkTable's noise >>>>> removal >>>>> > opportunities? >>>>> > I have to spend senconds with Canon DPP to suppress noise on >>>>> > high-iso image, >>>>> > I need minutes to get a good result in RawThrerapee, but >>>>> nobody >>>>> > can spend hours >>>>> > to make bad result with tons of noise reduction tools. >>>>> Please, >>>>> > break the last barrier to DT :`| >>>>> > Here my example: >>>>> > original image: >>>>> > >>>>> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Bz9fwFLCJOjNMnJlTzgwcHZOdTA >>>>> > canon dpp: >>>>> > >>>>> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Bz9fwFLCJOjNc1RoWW9kN3d3V0k >>>>> > rawtherapee: >>>>> > >>>>> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Bz9fwFLCJOjNNnZWNjVSYXhaX28 >>>>> > >>>>> > The best efforts In general lead to green noise on barbells. >>>>> > It's too complex problem for regular photographer. >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> ___________________________________________________________________________ >>>>> > darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail >>>>> to >>>>> > darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org >>>>> > <mailto:darktable-dev%2bunsubscr...@lists.darktable.org> >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> ___________________________________________________________________________ >>>>> > darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to >>>>> > darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org >>>>> > <mailto:darktable-dev%2bunsubscr...@lists.darktable.org> >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> ___________________________________________________________________________ >>>>> > darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to >>>>> > darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Noise Reduction is just another word for Image Destruction. >>>>> >>>>> Per Inge Oestmoen, Norway >>>>> >>>> >>> ___________________________________________________________________________ >>> darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to >>> darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org >>> >> ___________________________________________________________________________ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
