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Chuck Gilchrest
S/V Half Magic
1983 35 Landfall
Padanaram, MA
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I can't speak for the C&C 44, b
(it normally spins very freely). It felt like
> the Edson pedestal brake was on, but it wasn’t. Any thoughts on what may
> have caused the resistance?
>
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> From: Steve Martin via CnC-List
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> Subject: Stus-List Rudder bearing questions...
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>
> C&C 44 with spade rudder and harken top bearing...
> How much play is too
pedestal brake was on, but it wasn’t. Any thoughts on what may have
caused the resistance?
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Subject: Stus-List Rudder bearing questions...
C&C 44 with spade rudder and ha
I can't speak for the C&C 44, but the rudder bearings on my 37+ were
Delrin. I used a jig saw and split the bearings at approximately 90
degrees apart. A couple of taps and the bearings came right out.
Gary
S/V Kaylarah
'90 C&C 37+
East Greenwich, RI, USA
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On Thu, Dec 6, 2018
C&C 44 with spade rudder and harken top bearing...How much play is too much and
does anyone know sizes and how to remove upper and lower bearings... and any
other info on what I might be in for tackling this job...Thanks
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Lower ring is just an acetyl bushing/spacer. After cleaning and roughing
up the chipped out area I would use your favorite faring putty/thickened
epoxy to fill.
Welcome to the list.
We all kinda like to know where you're from so we have sign offs similar to
the following.
Josh Muckley
S/V Sea H
The image link below is of my rudder bearing. It looks to me like it has
dropped down. Being new to me I dont know what it is supposed to look like.
Is the lower ring supposed to be exposed? Or should it be up in the tube?
http://imgur.com/oy4FKng
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Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 21:12:54 -0500
From: "Della Barba, Joe"
To: "Dennis C." , "cnc-list@cnc-list.com"
Subject: Re: Stus-List Rudder bearing
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Rudder bearing
Alex,
I had upper rudder bearing remade. On Touche' it's screwed to cockpit bulkhead
at top of rudder post. Sent you a pic.
Dennis
From: Alex Giannelia mailto:a...@airsensing.com>>
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Alex,
I had upper rudder bearing remade. On Touche' it's screwed to cockpit bulkhead
at top of rudder post. Sent you a pic.
Dennis
>
> From: Alex Giannelia
>To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com"
>Sent: Wednesday, November 13,
ar plugs. After ten years of experience everyone on board would need
to swap glasses.
Wal
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Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 09:50:49 -0800 (PST)
From: "Dennis C."
To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com"
Subject: Re: Stus-List Rudder bearing
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> Subject: Re: Stus-List Rudder bearing
> Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 19:28:06 +
>
> While you have the rudder out, did you notice if there was a plastic
> washer (delrin or nylon) between your rudder and hull? It's probably
> worth replacing, i
there was nothing between the rudder and the hull and maybe a 1/4" to 3/8" gap.
Danny
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From: Wally Bryant
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Rudder bearing
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 19:28:06 +
While you have the rudder out, did you
While you have the rudder out, did you notice if there was a plastic
washer (delrin or nylon) between your rudder and hull? It's probably
worth replacing, if there was one. Not having one can cause your rudder
to bounce up and down in rough seas.
Wal
uot;cnc-list@cnc-list.com"
Subject: Re: Stus-List Rudder bearing
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 13:45:24 -0500
Dan, How much play is there? �Looks like a pretty tight fit without a
bearing. �Can you lift up the rudder 1/4 inch to compensate for the SS
washer?� Joel
On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 1:40 PM, Jim W
get 1'-0" length of 3-5/8" delrin rod and have all those
>> pieces fabricated at a machine shop? Then,slap it all back together?
>>
>> I keep thinking I should improve upon what is there just because I have
>> it all apart.
>>
>>
>>
>&
t; length of 3-5/8" delrin rod and have all those
> pieces fabricated at a machine shop? Then,slap it all back together?
>
> I keep thinking I should improve upon what is there just because I have it
> all apart.
>
>
>
>
> -- Original Message --
> F
ld improve upon what is
there just because I have it all apart.
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From: "Dennis C."
To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com"
Subject: Re: Stus-List Rudder bearing
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 09:50:49 -0800 (PST)
I had a new upper rudder bearing made fo
eville, LA
>
> From: Jim Watts
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>Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 4:38 PM
>Subject: Re: Stus-List Rudder bearing
>
>
>
>Those bearing discs are probably Delrin, aka Acetal. I think Dennis C. and/or
>Joe D.B. scored some made from PEEK o
FWIW A trick I used to address a worn inserts in a rudder tube on a Cat-27 I
had long ago was to buy a plastic 'for sale' sign at a big box store.
trimmed so it would rollup around rudder shaft and slide down rudder tube as
far as it would go. Material was just thick enough to address slop and
la
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Okay,
I removed the rudder today. It does not weigh much at all,
There are no bearings. It is just a fiberglass tube that f
The photos from today are all the way at the end.
Thanks again for any insights, observations or ideas.
Danny
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From: Martin DeYoung
To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com"
Subject: Re: Stus-List Rudder bearing
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 17:54:01 +
> It does
" <
> djhaug...@juno.com > wrote:
> >
> > Oops, I forgot the link to the folder...
> >
> > http://sdrv.ms/1bpnvZh
> >
> > Danny
> >
> >
> > -- Original Message --
> > From: "djhaug...@juno.com "
> &
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> From: "djhaug...@juno.com"
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Rudder bearing
> Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2013 21:53:25 GMT
>
> Okay,
>
> I removed the rudder today. It does not weigh much at all,
>
> There are no bearings. It is just a fiberg
to the folder...
>
> http://sdrv.ms/1bpnvZh
>
> Danny
>
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "djhaug...@juno.com"
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Rudder bearing
> Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2013 21:53:25 GMT
>
> Okay,
>
&
Oops, I forgot the link to the folder...
http://sdrv.ms/1bpnvZh
Danny
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From: "djhaug...@juno.com"
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Rudder bearing
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2013 21:53:25 GMT
Okay,
I removed the rudder today. It does
essage --
From: Martin DeYoung
To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com"
Subject: Re: Stus-List Rudder bearing
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 17:54:01 +
> It doesn't weigh much. Not sure if that is good or bad. <
Calypso's displacement is in the 24,000lb range. I have been told th
pso
1971 C&C 43
Seattle
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Joe
Sent: Friday, November 01, 2013 10:24 AM
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Rudder bearing
OTOH I can carry my rudder around myself. It does
.
>
> Joe Della Barba
> Coquina
> C&C 35 MK I
>
> -Original Message-
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Martin
> DeYoung
> Sent: Friday, November 01, 2013 1:18 PM
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> Subject: Re: Stus-List Rudder bearing
M
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Rudder bearing
> I guess I should commandeer a couple people to help drop that rudder.<
When dropping Calypso's rudder (large fiberglass over balsa with 3" dia. SS
heavy wall tube shaft) this summer we used 4 to 5 people. My guess
rom: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of
djhaug...@juno.com
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 7:22 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Rudder bearing
"what, it's the first hole I dug?"
the 33 came with a tiller too. Mine was converted over to a
The big deal is dropping the rudder, but after that, not much. As some of the
listers recall, when I had my new rudder etc. to install, I bought a chunk of
round black Delrin or Acetal and had a machine shop turn the inside so it would
fit into the tube and keep the top surface of the rudder se
ckson"
To:
Subject: Stus-List Rudder bearing
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2013 20:01:06 -0400
I had to dig a hole about 18" deep to drop the rudder out of my V28. It was
very heavyrudder shaft is solid stainless. It was held in by a single
pin through the top of the rudder shaft and the tiller
5 GMT
From: "djhaug...@juno.com"
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Rudder bearing
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Bob, really?? That sounds pretty easy. just get the right size o
ckson"
To:
Subject: Stus-List Rudder bearing
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2013 14:43:53 -0400
My previous boat was a little brother to yours – 1974 Viking 28.
I dropped the rudder. There are plastic insert bushings at the top and bottom
end of the rudder tube that easily slide out.
My son machined 2 ne
Excellent advice...the hard problem is dropping the ruddder if it's
anything like my boat
On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 3:43 PM, Bob Hickson wrote:
> My previous boat was a little brother to yours – 1974 Viking 28.
>
> I dropped the rudder. There are plastic insert bushings at the top and
> botto
My previous boat was a little brother to yours - 1974 Viking 28.
I dropped the rudder. There are plastic insert bushings at the top and
bottom end of the rudder tube that easily slide out.
My son machined 2 new bushings from a piece of Delrin rod worked great
problem solved
Best reg
I'd be tempted to dismantle the steering and drop the rudder. You will then be
able to see what the construction is and what needs doing. If you need new
Delrin inserts or some other work, it should be relatively easy to get them
turned at any competent machine shop. It will also give you an opp
Depends on how your rudder/tube is constructed. Many assemblies have no
bearings, they rely on a film of grease in the rudder tube, plus delrin
bearing surfaces at deck level and where the rudder shaft exits the boat.
If yours is this construction, then your only recourse would be to line the
rudde
Hey,
Has anyone got any advise or insights on replacing a rudder bearing?
Mine is a bit too sloppy for my liking. is this huge PITA?
What would be the steps to doing a good repair/maintenance vs what the yard
might do.
I guess if it isn't actually broke yet, it would be considered preventativ
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