Hi Danny,
I have the model cousin to your "33". They can easily be mistaken as
sisters from a short distance away.
Your rudder top looks better than mine did which had quite a bit of
water in it. For repairs I used a burr & pencil grinder (similar to
the handy Dremel tool) and hogged out a bunch of crap near the rudder
stock where it enters the rudder and ground out an old patch/filler
at the bottom for a vent. Then I propped it upside down for a couple
of months in the shop. Sometimes I left a lamp under it to help the drying.
When ready, freshen up the surfaces with the tool, remove debris with
vacuum and start pouring in resin (with the rudder upright). First
batch was neat and next batches had filler but not thick at all.
It looks like the crack along the top could use epoxy & tape at the
final stages of repair too.
No problems six years later and still looks good at the haulout inspection.
Cheers, Russ
Sweet 35 mk-1
At 01:53 PM 11/11/2013, you wrote:
Okay,
I removed the rudder today. It does not weigh much at all,
There are no bearings. It is just a fiberglass tube that fits
tightly around the 1-7/8" shaft. There were just 2 - 4"x1/4"
nylon(?) washers between the pin that holds the rudder in place and
the aluminum flange fitting in the cockpit.
It really is just hung there. I couldn't help but to think that a
SS washer on top of the 2 nylon(?) washers would be a good idea. It
was apparent that these washers had been switched around a few times
by the marks from the pin on both sides of both nylon(?) washers.
So my thoughts ar maybe to just re install it and add a big 'ol
fender washer for the pin to rest on.
However, my only concern is what the stainless shaft looks like
inside the rudder...
https://korpoq.blu.livefilestore.com/y2pq2xBqhOTnVi8a3qjlKe3d3z5mZu4DLyvgdLO1n4y4kIAj-jz0KUR4EKzhrOKdm1UOBEIjnGtt3_lyaNLYnVRVciZi9tZT2-gzJtkcwoy1K8/20131111_132315.jpg
In case that link doesn't work, here is a link to a folder with a
bunch of boat pics. The photos from today are all the way at the end.
Thanks again for any insights, observations or ideas.
Danny
---------- Original Message ----------
From: Martin DeYoung <mdeyo...@deyoungmfg.com>
To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Rudder bearing
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 17:54:01 +0000
> It doesn't weigh much. Not sure if that is good or bad. <
Calypso's displacement is in the 24,000lb range. I have been told
the original Bruckmann built rudder was lost in the early 70's on
the way to Bermuda. The replacement rudder may be overbuilt but I
do not worry it will fail under any conditions we are likely to push
Calypso into in the near future.
Much of the rig and steering related gear on the early Bruckmann
built 43's appears to be the same spec as what was used on the early
61's. The lower rudder bearing assembly is cast bronze and bolts on
from the outside. Think 2' long and 1' wide, faired into the hull
shape, penetrating 1' into the hull with a machined load bearing
collar/stuffing box assembly on top. Frick'n massive, and heavy.
Given that we mostly race Calypso these days and the propensity for
light air in the PNW a lighter rudder may not be bad. Having said
that our last day of racing saw steady winds in the mid 20's and
gusts close to 30. The rudder/steering gear work this summer was a
comfort as we ducked a starboard tacker with maybe a little too much
mainsheet on.
Martin
Calypso
1971 C&C 43
Seattle
-----Original Message-----
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of
Della Barba, Joe
Sent: Friday, November 01, 2013 10:24 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Rudder bearing
OTOH I can carry my rudder around myself. It doesn't weigh much. Not
sure if that is good or bad.
Joe Della Barba
Coquina
C&C 35 MK I
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Martin DeYoung
Sent: Friday, November 01, 2013 1:18 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Rudder bearing
> I guess I should commandeer a couple people to help drop that rudder.<
When dropping Calypso's rudder (large fiberglass over balsa with 3"
dia. SS heavy wall tube shaft) this summer we used 4 to 5
people. My guess is it weighs 200 to 250 lbs. We were just barely
able to clear the pavement with the boat in its normal yard
position. The backup plan was to spend the $$ to have the travel
lift raise Calypso to give us the extra clearance.
We had cushioning material under the rudder in case it slipped from
our grip and set up blocks to stabilize it 1/2 way out to allow for
re-positioning of the muscle.
Prior to this summer's rudder repair project I dreaded the need to
drop it out of the boat. Now that I have done it the project seems
no worse than any other yard project. The more difficult part was
working in the tight spaces around the quadrant.
Do take pictures and measurements of how the steering gear is set
up. I should have taken much better measurements of the position of
the quadrant to avoid having to make a 3/8" adjustment to perfect
the steering cable alignment.
Calypso's rudder bearing assemblies are much different than those
described for a Viking 33 but I did perform a complete inspection of
the shaft and the bearing surfaces looking for wear and
corrosion. I made detailed measurements of the rudder and shaft in
case of future repairs.
Martin
Calypso
1971 C&C 43
Seattle
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djhaug...@juno.com
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 7:22 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Rudder bearing
"what, it's the first hole I dug?"
the 33 came with a tiller too. Mine was converted over to a wheel
but, the tiller fitting is still there.
I guess I should commandeer a couple people to help drop that rudder.
Danny
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