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om: "Dennis C." mailto:capt...@yahoo.com>> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>" mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> Subject: Re: Stus-List New Head and holding tank system Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2013 13:24:25 -0500 Danny, I

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that the toilet will actually be pumping > uphill to the tank and will require more fresh water to clear the hose all > the way to the tank, filling the tank faster. > > am I seeing things correctly? > > Danny > > > -- Original Message -- > From: "Denni

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things correctly? > > Danny > > > ------ Original Message ------ > From: "Dennis C." > To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" > Subject: Re: Stus-List New Head and holding tank system > Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2013 13:24:25 -0500 > > Danny, >

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all the way to the tank, filling the tank faster. am I seeing things correctly? Danny -- Original Message -- From: "Dennis C." To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" Subject: Re: Stus-List New Head and holding tank system Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2013 13:24:25 -0500 Danny,

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t; it gives life to it's (its) inhabitants each > morning! > > Imagine what it could give birth to if I really do get the holding tank > there... > > Danny > > > > > -- Original Message ------ > From: "Dennis C." > To: &

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riginal Message -- From: "Dennis C." To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" Subject: Re: Stus-List New Head and holding tank system Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2013 12:26:59 -0500 Danny, Is the platform under the v-berth cushions screwed down? If so, take it up, install the tank and replace it. Den

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t; Any ideas or insight, as always, will be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks, > Danny > > > -- Original Message -- > From: Paul Fountain > To: > Subject: Re: Stus-List New Head and holding tank system > Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 12:09:49 -0400 > &

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--- Original Message -- From: Paul Fountain To: Subject: Re: Stus-List New Head and holding tank system Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 12:09:49 -0400 Marek, Check with Paynes in Burlington, they carry the hoses – but are strictly a wholesaler – they will have a local retailer who can ord

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Okay. I'm cleaning out my 'drafts' folder but still think this is funny. You wrote: So no vented loop? just straight to a tank? what stops things from wanting to go back through the joker valve? Ahhh, the Joker Valve. I really need to turn this internet connection off. La Bomba. (which

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iginal Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Steve Thomas Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2013 7:54 AM To: billb...@sbcglobal.net; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List New Head and holding tank system. Excellent idea! -Original Message-

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-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Marek Dziedzic Sent: October-24-13 11:33 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List New Head and holding tank system Steve, where did you source the replacement hoses (in Canada)? From what I know you should use only the very specific type (all

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Canada)? From what I know > you should use only the very specific type (all others permeate the smell > in 3-4 months) > > Marek > in Ottawa > > Message: 8 > Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 10:24:40 -0400 > From: Stevan Plavsa > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-Li

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: Stus-List New Head and holding tank system. Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" I changed my hoses when it was cold out. Smell is less .. impacting .. when it's cold. But it's harder to get the hoses off. They'll be hard to remove in any cas

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Good idea Bill! For the Canadians we have the same tools at Princess Auto: *http://tinyurl.com/mjncndk* * * Steve Suhana, C&C 32 Toronto On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 10:55 AM, Bill Bina wrote: > I meant to include this link: > > http://www.harborfreight.com/**automotive-motorcycle/exhaust.**html

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I meant to include this link: http://www.harborfreight.com/automotive-motorcycle/exhaust.html Bill Bina On 10/24/2013 10:40 AM, Bill Bina wrote: I'm not sure if it was on this list where I saw it. But one tip I plan to try the next time I need to change a hose is to pre-expand the end with th

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Excellent idea! -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]On Behalf Of Bill Bina Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2013 10:40 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List New Head and holding tank system. I'm not sure if it was on this list where

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Head and holding tank system. I'm not sure if it was on this list where I saw it. But one tip I plan to try the next time I need to change a hose is to pre-expand the end with the tool they use for expanding automotive muffler pipes to make them slip over adjoining pipes. They come in diff

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rass � From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of djhaug...@juno.com Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 7:00 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.comSubject: Re: Stus-List New Head and holding tank system. � I'm not really sure what the banana would do... �Lol I have thought about

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I'm not sure if it was on this list where I saw it. But one tip I plan to try the next time I need to change a hose is to pre-expand the end with the tool they use for expanding automotive muffler pipes to make them slip over adjoining pipes. They come in different diameters. You slip it into t

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is so willing to help a complete stranger. She >>> said she would prefer a phone call because she could transfer more >>> information in 45 minutes to an hour conversation than loads of back and >>> fourth emails. >>> >>> I'll share whatever info I get if

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in 45 minutes to an hour conversation than loads of back and >> fourth emails. >> >> I'll share whatever info I get if you all are interested. >> >> Danny, >> Lolita >> 1973 Viking 33 >> Westport Point, MA >> >> >> >>

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conversation than loads of back and fourth emails. > > I'll share whatever info I get if you all are interested. > > Danny, > Lolita > 1973 Viking 33 > Westport Point, MA > > > > > -- Original Message -- > From: "j...@svpaws.net"

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riginal Message -- From: "j...@svpaws.net" To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" Subject: Re: Stus-List New Head and holding tank system. Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2013 16:35:52 -0400 Ah Are you sure about the lectrasan? You seem to be implying that their use is legal in a no discharge z

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--- Original Message - From: <mailto:timg...@gmail.com>Tim Goodyear To: <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 7:09 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List New Head and holding tank system. Danny, what are the reasons you are going with the Raritan PH

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maybe 40% of the time and I decided the Raritan was the way to go. Danny -- Original Message -- From: Tim Goodyear To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List New Head and holding tank system. Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2013 07:09:26 -0400 Danny, what are the reasons you are goi

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he thru hull, but was >> pumping OK into the holding tank. I put the lube in, and after about 15 >> pumps, here came the water! No project. >> >> Gary >> - Original Message - >> From: Tim Goodyear >> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com >> Sent: Wednes

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regional commander of the coasties! James S/V Delaney 1976 C&C 38 Oriental, NC - Original Message - From: j...@svpaws.net To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 4:35 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List New Head and holding tank system. Ah Are you sure a

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ALL inland waters are No Discharge. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( On Oct 23, 2013, at 4:42 PM, "Rick Brass" wrote: > I’d need to look at the USCG website to see if the Great Lakes are a No > Discharge zone, or if the discharg

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@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List New Head and holding tank system. No Discharge means NOTHING overboard within 3 NM of the coast or the Colregs Line on the chart. There are a few official No Discharge areas along the east coast, with the largest being the waters of Rhode Island and the Florida

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where you might contribute to an algae bloom. Rick Brass From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of j...@svpaws.net Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 4:36 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List New Head and holding tank system. Ah Are you sure

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Designated No Discharge Zones mean NO discharge. In many of these zones, they are just as worried about adding nutrients as anything else. They don't care how you pretreated the stuff, you cannot pump it overboard in places such as Narragansett Bay, Rhode Island,

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a type I MSD. > > Rick Brass > > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of > djhaug...@juno.com > Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 7:00 AM > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List New Head and holding tank system. > > I'

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Discharge” means and the CG rules for a type I MSD. Rick Brass From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of djhaug...@juno.com Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 7:00 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List New Head and holding tank system. I'm not r

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@juno.com" To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List New Head and holding tank system. Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2013 18:56:27 GMT Hi Tim, Well after months reading on this topic, I've read and re-read posts on forums from Peggie Hall "the head queen" (nice right?!). She is the

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and I decided the Raritan was the way to go. Danny -- Original Message -- From: Tim Goodyear To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List New Head and holding tank system. Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2013 07:09:26 -0400 Danny, what are the reasons you are going with the Raritan PH

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into the holding tank. I put the lube in, and after about 15 > pumps, here came the water! No project. > > Gary > > - Original Message - > *From:* Tim Goodyear > *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com > *Sent:* Wednesday, October 23, 2013 7:09 AM > *Subject:* Re: Stus-

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about 15 pumps, here came the water! No project. Gary - Original Message - From: Tim Goodyear To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 7:09 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List New Head and holding tank system. Danny, what are the reasons you are going with the Ra

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Danny, what are the reasons you are going with the Raritan PHC (there are many options out there)? I am done with replacing the pump annually on the Wilcox Crittenden / Thetford Headmate head in Mojito and was looking at a replacement. Now, if only the pumps were interchangeable between models...

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you wrote: Corn cobs? Do we get to hear that story? I presume it involves large quantities of tequila or rum? Actually it involves Homesteading when Iowa was the Wild Wild West. see: Although, actually, toilet paper

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you wrote: Corn cobs? Do we get to hear that story? I presume it involves large quantities of tequila or rum? Actually it involves Homesteading when Iowa was the Wild Wild West. see: Although, actually, toilet paper

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Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 3:59 PM To: w...@wbryant.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List New Head and holding tank system. So no vented loop? just straight to a tank? what stops things from wanting to go back through the joker valve? -- Original Message -- From:

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So no vented loop? just straight to a tank? what stops things from wanting to go back through the joker valve? -- Original Message -- From: Wally Bryant To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List New Head and holding tank system. Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2013 22:22:25 +

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Corn cobs?  Do we get to hear that story?  I presume it involves large quantities of tequila or rum?  On Oct 22, 2013, at 6:22 PM, Wally Bryant wrote:Martin wrote:All output of the head goes directly into the holding tank.  From there we can pump out at a dock or use a macerator

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Martin wrote: All output of the head goes directly into the holding tank. From there we can pump out at a dock or use a macerator type pump overboard. We put in two vents, one each side of the boat to be sure the KO brand (now sold by Raritan) holding tank treatment had plenty of air. In ov

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; commandeer that space. So, this is starting to sound like more of a >> project than I want it to be... I could use the same location as the >> existing bladder but, then these is no real way to empty the tank without >> another pump that I can think of. Then the cost g

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t; Here is a diagram of what I was thinking of... > http://sdrv.ms/18Gs2FG > > > -- Original Message -- > From: Stevan Plavsa > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List New Head and holding tank system. > Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2013 08:33:31 -0400

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m: Stevan Plavsa To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List New Head and holding tank system. Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2013 08:33:31 -0400 My original tank was made by Kracor. I just went through this exercise last season. The kracor tank for my boat is still available from Kracor but they

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e, Oct 22, 2013 8:34 am Subject: Re: Stus-List New Head and holding tank system. My original tank was made by Kracor. I just went through this exercise last season. The kracor tank for my boat is still available from Kracor but they wanted $700 plus shipping .. and shipping to Canada would have been

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l and for the amount of time we need it, it may well be a good solution. However, it grossed out the admiral. So, I'm on to this solution of a good holding tank design. T-Mobile. America’s First Nationwide 4G Network - Reply message - From: "bobmor99 ." To: Subj

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it may well be a good solution. However, it grossed out the admiral. > So, I'm on to this solution of a good holding tank design. > > > T-Mobile. America’s First Nationwide 4G Network > > ----- Reply message ----- > From: "bobmor99 ." > To: > Subject: St

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well be a good solution. However, it grossed out the admiral. So, I'm on to this solution of a good holding tank design. T-Mobile. America’s First Nationwide 4G Network - Reply message - From: "bobmor99 ." To: Subject: Stus-List New Head and holding tank system. Date:

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Bill, Thanks for the offer. I'm thinking that may be a bit too small for us as well... Danny T-Mobile. America’s First Nationwide 4G Network - Reply message - From: "Bill Coleman" To: Subject: Stus-List New Head and holding tank system. Date: Mon, Oct 21, 2013 5:0

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Danny, I've been on this list for over a decade.  I don't recall a single thread on failure of a bladder tank. I do recall several threads on failures of rigid tanks.  I have bladder tanks for both waste and fresh water. Something to think about. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA

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I'm mainly a daysailor who has so far avoided the poo issue. If I were to forgo my very comfortable bed and spend a night aboard Ox, I would first try to address the poo problem at the source - with bananas. Beyond that, I'd go Porta Potti and deal with it. Bob M Ox 33-1 Jax, FL On Mon, Oct 21, 2

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@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Martin DeYoung Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 4:46 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List New Head and holding tank system. Ø … what is a reasonable sized holding tank. < Depends on intended boat use. Short trips, rarely living onboard for more

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Kracor did all the tanks on the LF38 (except for fuel), including the 35-gal holding tank. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( On Oct 21, 2013, at 3:53 PM, Joel Aronson wrote: > Danny, > > My water tank was made by > http://www.k

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r > > *C&C, Viking 33, as well as many other > boats,<http://www.hollandmarine.com/tank.html> > * > > you'll see the tank. > > Danny > > -- Original Message ------ > From: Andrew Burton > To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com"

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lons http://www.hollandmarine.com/ If you go the bottom and click on the link for C&C, Viking 33, as well as many other boats, you'll see the tank. Danny -- Original Message -- From: Andrew Burton To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" Subject: Re: Stus-List New Head and holding tank syste

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October 21, 2013 1:27 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List New Head and holding tank system. Danny, The 35/3 came with a 24 gallon tank. I pump out 1 or 2 times a season. The brochures on the website list tankage for various models. BTW, don't forget a vent! Joel On Mon,

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> notify that you need a pumpout by placing blue tape on your pumpout > fitting. So I really would never need more than a week's worth of holding. > > Danny > > > ------ Original Message -- > From: "Kim Brown" > To: > Subject: Stus-List New He

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that you need a pumpout by placing blue tape on your pumpout fitting. So I really would never need more than a week's worth of holding. Danny -- Original Message -- From: "Kim Brown" To: Subject: Stus-List New Head and holding tank system. Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2013

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Danny, Waste thoughts: Head up then down (loop hose) into holding tank - don't want the whole load set up to back siphon against that measly joker valve (buy a spare, change often) Holding tank exit to y valve then either up and out to pumpout or via a macerator pump through hull overboard. Whi

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Well, from the looks of things they may not stay wet for long around here… it snowed over the weekend. :^( Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( On Oct 21, 2013, at 11:45 AM, Jim Watts wrote: > I keep forgetting about the wet bits

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Very true Don, and I should have specified coastal areas. I keep forgetting about the wet bits in the middle. The grey water collection and pumpout scheme fell apart only after a lot of explaining the physics involved (and public ridicule) to chair-warmers in Ottawa. Even now, there's only about 30

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Just to clarify a point...In Canada only on the ocean coasts may overboard discharge be legal. In the Great Lakes, and the inland lakes of Ontario, not to many years ago, boaters faced impeding legislation that would have required all water from your boat collected and disposed of in an appropr

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Check this out> Skip did exactly the holding tank installation you're talking about on his C&C 40. The pump out is on deck and when he's offshore it drains straight out without a macerator pump. http://sailingsaralane.blogspot.com/2012/11/systems-review-warningpotentially-boring.html Andy C&C 40

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Pump-out fittings are a friction fit with the deck outlet. They scare the hell out of me. The last one I used, the previous user had turned the open/close lever at the business end to close before turning the pump off. This left the hose full of waste up to the shutoff. When I cracked the valve to

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Danny, Good luck! >From the head - discharge hose to Y valve. One branch to a thru-hull, one to the tank. The one to the tank needs a loop in it so it is above the water line at all times. The pump out connection is at the bottom of the tank and runs to a deck fitting. The pump-out fitting sits

Stus-List New Head and holding tank system.

Okay guys, I'm planning a new waste system. I'm going with the Raritan PHC head and a new holding tank. I currently have a very old Jabsco head and a bladder holding tank. I really don't like the bladder. It has worked okay but, one day it will fail and it will be disgusting! I just want ri