I thought you kept your blabber tank filled with helium - on the leeward side of course, to offset heel. And when you are blabbing on the VHF it gives your voice that special tone that the coastguard loves!

Graham Collins
Secret Plans
C&C 35-III #11

On 2013-10-29 10:46 PM, Jim Watts wrote:
I have a blabber tank on PShift, but I'm having a hard time finding enough nitrous oxide to fill it.


On 29 October 2013 13:40, Dennis C. <capt...@yahoo.com <mailto:capt...@yahoo.com>> wrote:

    You're probably seeing them correctly. Use a water level to confirm.

    I don't have a problem with bladder tanks. I'd just go with a
    simple replacement in the existing location.

    I have a blabber tank on Touché.  It's located outboard of the
    head between the hull and liner.

    Dennis C.



    Sent from my iPhone

    On Oct 29, 2013, at 1:55 PM, "djhaug...@juno.com
    <mailto:djhaug...@juno.com>" <djhaug...@juno.com
    <mailto:djhaug...@juno.com>> wrote:

    Dennis,
    Thanks!  Do you think this is preferable to the current location
    of the bladder tank?
    There is actually a thru hull I was planning on getting rid of
    under the starboard settee.  It is a transducer of some ancient
    equipment long abandoned.  I guess, as a pro, I could run a hose
    from the tank to that thru hull for possible dumping.
    That way, I could have a wye valve for direct discharge or tank
    flushing and then not need a wye valve for pumping/dumping.  2-
    connections on the tank.  I may even be able to pull off a
    gravity drain as the tank will be a little higher than the
    through-hull.  I would have to have the outlet at the bottom of
    the tank for that, and that does worry me some.  I could always
    mount a manual pump I guess...
    The only biggest con I see is that the toilet will actually be
    pumping uphill to the tank and will require more fresh water to
    clear the hose all the way to the tank, filling the tank faster.
    am I seeing things correctly?
    Danny


    ---------- Original Message ----------
    From: "Dennis C." <capt...@yahoo.com <mailto:capt...@yahoo.com>>
    To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>"
    <cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
    Subject: Re: Stus-List New Head and holding tank system
    Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2013 13:24:25 -0500

    Danny,
    I just got on Touché and looked at the platform. Yup, it's part
    of the interior pan.
    Plan B - cut out the platform above the center storage. Use a
    jigsaw or a multimax vibrating saw. Drop in the tank. Put the
    cutout back by letting it rest on new wooden cleats under the
    cut. Just like the access panel except screwed down.
    Dennis C.

    Sent from my iPhone

    On Oct 29, 2013, at 12:47 PM, "djhaug...@juno.com
    <mailto:djhaug...@juno.com>" <djhaug...@juno.com
    <mailto:djhaug...@juno.com>> wrote:

        No, it is one large piece tabbed to the hull.  It has just
        the one hatch for access.
        my boat has a "V-birth!"  it gives life to it's (its)
        inhabitants each morning!
        Imagine what it could give birth to if I really do get the
        holding tank there...
        Danny


        ---------- Original Message ----------
        From: "Dennis C." <capt...@yahoo.com <mailto:capt...@yahoo.com>>
        To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>"
        <cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
        Subject: Re: Stus-List New Head and holding tank system
        Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2013 12:26:59 -0500

        Danny,
        Is the platform under the v-berth cushions screwed down?  If
        so, take it up, install the tank and replace it.
        Dennis C.

        Sent from my iPhone

        On Oct 29, 2013, at 9:05 AM, "djhaug...@juno.com
        <mailto:djhaug...@juno.com>" <djhaug...@juno.com
        <mailto:djhaug...@juno.com>> wrote:

            Well,
            I went down to the boat on Saturday to get the frame up
            for the cover.  I looked around a bit more and realized
            just how little room there is up in the V-birth.
            It seems, in order to get a tank up there, I'm going to
            be doing some cutting.  There is a drawer and cubby on
            each side where the removable piece comes out.  I don't
            really want to lose those and if I did take the one right
            up against the bulkhead to the head, it is so small that
            I would not only have to cut the bed platform for access,
            I'd have to hack out the bulkhead below the platform to
            get anywhere near and adequate sized tank.
            So, that leaves the center storage area below the
            V-birth.  This would entail having to open the platform
            in order drop a tank in there.  The access hatch is way
            too small to get a tank through.  This also creates a
            longer hose run from the toilet and back to the through hull.
            I could put the tank back where the bladder is now.
             Which is under the "L" shaped settee just aft of the
            head.  This is probably the most convenient location.
             Which is why the bladder is there now.
            I'm not really sure how Big a tank I can get in there but
            I think that is where I'll end up putting it.  I can't
            really see any reason not to put it there really.  Short
            hose runs,  close to the existing pump out.  I was kind
            of hoping to add some more water storage there.
            Any ideas or insight, as always, will be greatly appreciated.
            Thanks,
            Danny


            ---------- Original Message ----------
            From: Paul Fountain <paul.fount...@sympatico.ca
            <mailto:paul.fount...@sympatico.ca>>
            To: <cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
            Subject: Re: Stus-List New Head and holding tank system
            Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 12:09:49 -0400

            Marek,

            Check with Paynes in Burlington, they carry the hoses --
            but are strictly a wholesaler -- they will have a local
            retailer who can order for you -- in the
            Burlington/Oakville area I use Dockside Marine -- I am
            sure James would ship to you if you wantd.

            *From:*CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]
            *On Behalf Of *Marek Dziedzic
            *Sent:* October-24-13 11:33 AM
            *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
            *Subject:* Re: Stus-List New Head and holding tank system

            Steve,

            where did you source the replacement hoses (in Canada)?
            From what I know you should use only the very specific
            type (all others permeate the smell in 3-4 months)

            Marek

            in Ottawa

            Message: 8
            Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 10:24:40 -0400
            From: Stevan Plavsa <stevanpla...@gmail.com
            <mailto:stevanpla...@gmail.com>>
            To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
            Subject: Re: Stus-List New Head and holding tank system.
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            I changed my hoses when it was cold out. Smell is less ..
            impacting .. when
            it's cold. But it's harder to get the hoses off. They'll
            be hard to remove
            in any case. If I was doing it over again I'de use one of
            those multi-tools
            to put a slit in the hose end and replace the fitting if
            it got damaged.
            Would save a lot of frustration.

            Have those big heavy duty contractor grade garbage bags
            on hand. They'll
            contain anything....

            Steve
            Suhana, C&C 32
            Toronto

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