You're probably seeing them correctly. Use a water level to confirm. 

I don't have a problem with bladder tanks. I'd just go with a simple 
replacement in the existing location. 

I have a blabber tank on Touché.  It's located outboard of the head between the 
hull and liner. 

Dennis C.



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> On Oct 29, 2013, at 1:55 PM, "djhaug...@juno.com" <djhaug...@juno.com> wrote:
> 
> Dennis,
>  
> Thanks!  Do you think this is preferable to the current location of the 
> bladder tank?
>  
> There is actually a thru hull I was planning on getting rid of under the 
> starboard settee.  It is a transducer of some ancient equipment long 
> abandoned.  I guess, as a pro, I could run a hose from the tank to that thru 
> hull for possible dumping.
>  
> That way, I could have a wye valve for direct discharge or tank flushing and 
> then not need a wye valve for pumping/dumping.  2- connections on the tank.  
> I may even be able to pull off a gravity drain as the tank will be a little 
> higher than the through-hull.  I would have to have the outlet at the bottom 
> of the tank for that, and that does worry me some.  I could always mount a 
> manual pump I guess...
>  
> The only biggest con I see is that the toilet will actually be pumping uphill 
> to the tank and will require more fresh water to clear the hose all the way 
> to the tank, filling the tank faster.
>  
> am I seeing things correctly?
>  
> Danny
> 
> 
> ---------- Original Message ----------
> From: "Dennis C." <capt...@yahoo.com>
> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List New Head and holding tank system
> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2013 13:24:25 -0500
> 
> Danny,
>  
> I just got on Touché and looked at the platform. Yup, it's part of the 
> interior pan. 
>  
> Plan B - cut out the platform above the center storage. Use a jigsaw or a 
> multimax vibrating saw. Drop in the tank. Put the cutout back by letting it 
> rest on new wooden cleats under the cut. Just like the access panel except 
> screwed down. 
>  
> Dennis C.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Oct 29, 2013, at 12:47 PM, "djhaug...@juno.com" <djhaug...@juno.com> wrote:
> 
> No, it is one large piece tabbed to the hull.  It has just the one hatch for 
> access.
>  
> my boat has a "V-birth!"  it gives life to it's (its) inhabitants each 
> morning!
>  
> Imagine what it could give birth to if I really do get the holding tank 
> there...
>  
> Danny
>  
>  
> 
> 
> ---------- Original Message ----------
> From: "Dennis C." <capt...@yahoo.com>
> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List New Head and holding tank system
> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2013 12:26:59 -0500
> 
>  
> 
> Danny,
>  
> Is the platform under the v-berth cushions screwed down?  If so, take it up, 
> install the tank and replace it. 
>  
> Dennis C. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Oct 29, 2013, at 9:05 AM, "djhaug...@juno.com" <djhaug...@juno.com> wrote:
> 
> Well,
>  
> I went down to the boat on Saturday to get the frame up for the cover.  I 
> looked around a bit more and realized just how little room there is up in the 
> V-birth.
>  
> It seems, in order to get a tank up there, I'm going to be doing some 
> cutting.  There is a drawer and cubby on each side where the removable piece 
> comes out.  I don't really want to lose those and if I did take the one right 
> up against the bulkhead to the head, it is so small that I would not only 
> have to cut the bed platform for access, I'd have to hack out the bulkhead 
> below the platform to get anywhere near and adequate sized tank.
>  
> So, that leaves the center storage area below the V-birth.  This would entail 
> having to open the platform in order drop a tank in there.  The access hatch 
> is way too small to get a tank through.  This also creates a longer hose run 
> from the toilet and back to the through hull.
>  
> I could put the tank back where the bladder is now.  Which is under the "L" 
> shaped settee just aft of the head.  This is probably the most convenient 
> location.  Which is why the bladder is there now.
>  
> I'm not really sure how Big a tank I can get in there but I think that is 
> where I'll end up putting it.  I can't really see any reason not to put it 
> there really.  Short hose runs,  close to the existing pump out.  I was kind 
> of hoping to add some more water storage there.
>  
> Any ideas or insight, as always, will be greatly appreciated.
>  
> Thanks,
> Danny
> 
> 
> ---------- Original Message ----------
> From: Paul Fountain <paul.fount...@sympatico.ca>
> To: <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List New Head and holding tank system
> Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 12:09:49 -0400
> 
>  
> 
> Marek,
> 
>  
> 
> Check with Paynes in Burlington, they carry the hoses – but are strictly a 
> wholesaler – they will have a local retailer who can order for you – in the 
> Burlington/Oakville area I use Dockside Marine – I am sure James would ship 
> to you if you wantd.
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Marek 
> Dziedzic
> Sent: October-24-13 11:33 AM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List New Head and holding tank system
> 
>  
> 
> Steve,
> 
>  
> 
> where did you source the replacement hoses (in Canada)? From what I know you 
> should use only the very specific type (all others permeate the smell in 3-4 
> months)
> 
>  
> 
> Marek
> 
> in Ottawa
> 
>  
> 
> Message: 8
> Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 10:24:40 -0400
> From: Stevan Plavsa <stevanpla...@gmail.com>
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List New Head and holding tank system.
> Message-ID:
> <caddevn7ltnt0etmohbesacyfruo5usyabbefj2ysa53ozm0...@mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
> 
> I changed my hoses when it was cold out. Smell is less .. impacting .. when
> it's cold. But it's harder to get the hoses off. They'll be hard to remove
> in any case. If I was doing it over again I'de use one of those multi-tools
> to put a slit in the hose end and replace the fitting if it got damaged.
> Would save a lot of frustration.
> 
> Have those big heavy duty contractor grade garbage bags on hand. They'll
> contain anything....
> 
> Steve
> Suhana, C&C 32
> Toronto
> 
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