Well, Peggie Hall is supposed to be the utmost authority on an odor free boat.  
She says the biggest cause of odor is anaerobic bacteria that thrives in an 
environment with little or no air.  Aerobic bacteria supposedly does not smell 
and, will kill off the anaerobic bacteria, needs good ventilation to thrive.  
So she recommends 2, at least 1" vents to keep the aerobic bacteria healthy and 
alive which in turn breaks down the waste without odor. Allowing your hoses to 
droop causing traps will allow waste to pool there and begin braking down.  
Again this will anaerobic breakdown and cause odor and eventually permeate the 
hoses.  It seems necessary to flush the whole thing with fresh water at least 
at the end of the day or when you're about to close up the boat for any length 
of time.  also, you really need to use sanitary hose for the water intake line. 
 I can attest to the stench you get out of those braided, clear hoses. Geeze, I 
guess I have been doing some reading on this topic...  LOL  now, lets hope it 
pays off in practice! Danny

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From: Andrew Burton <a.burton.sai...@gmail.com>
To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Subject: Re: Stus-List New Head and holding tank system.
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 10:27:28 -0400


Hadn't though about doing it in the cold. Good idea. Maybe I'll use a 
respirator, too!

Has anyone got thoughts on how to avoid fragrant whiffs for the vent whenever 
someone uses the head?
 AndyC&C 40Peregrine



On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 10:24 AM, Stevan Plavsa <stevanpla...@gmail.com> wrote:
I changed my hoses when it was cold out. Smell is less .. impacting .. when 
it's cold. But it's harder to get the hoses off. They'll be hard to remove in 
any case. If I was doing it over again I'de use one of those multi-tools to put 
a slit in the hose end and replace the fitting if it got damaged. Would save a 
lot of frustration. Have those big heavy duty contractor grade garbage bags on 
hand. They'll contain anything....
 SteveSuhana, C&C 32Toronto
 

On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 10:19 AM, Andrew Burton <a.burton.sai...@gmail.com> 
wrote:
Please do share. I'm replacing smelly hoses this year.AndyPeregrineC&C 40



On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 10:14 AM, djhaug...@juno.com <djhaug...@juno.com> wrote:
Okay,&#65533;So, I sent Peggie Hall a private message on "Cruisers Forum" and 
she wrote back saying she would be happy to help me design a solid system for 
my boat. &#65533;I have a phone call scheduled with her this evening! 
&#65533;That is pretty amazing that she is so willing to help a complete 
stranger. &#65533;She said she would prefer a phone call because she could 
transfer more information in 45 minutes to an hour conversation than loads of 
back and fourth emails.&#65533;I'll share whatever info I get if you all are 
interested.&#65533;Danny,Lolita1973 Viking 33Westport Point, 
MA&#65533;&#65533;&#65533;

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 To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Subject: Re: Stus-List New Head and holding tank system.Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2013 
16:35:52 -0400

Ah.... Are you sure about the lectrasan? &#65533;You seem to be implying that 
their use is legal in a no discharge zone?&#65533;John

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On Oct 23, 2013, at 4:27 PM, "Rick Brass" <rickbr...@earthlink.net> wrote:

 Did an offshore passage in a boat with a composting head, and heartily 
recommend the concept. The only downside I found to the installation I 
experienced was the need to climb up onto the head &#65533; this one was pretty 
tall.
&#65533;
I removed the holding tank on my 38 a few years ago and installed in its place 
a Lectra-San, a 9 gallon tank, and a group 24 deep cycle battery to power the 
Lectra-San and the windlass. In the past 4 years or so I&#65533;ve never had to 
worry about a pumpout or overboard discharge &#65533; though I have had to 
explain to a couple of Coasties and USCG Auxilliary folks what &#65533;No 
Discharge&#65533; means and the CG rules for a type I MSD.
&#65533;
Rick Brass
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Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 7:00 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.comSubject: Re: Stus-List New Head and holding tank 
system. 
&#65533;
I'm not really sure what the banana would do... &#65533;Lol


I have thought about the porta potty and then thought the composting toilet 
would have been a better idea. &#65533;I'm still not completely convinced that 
it isn't. &#65533;It is an easy install and for the amount of time we need it, 
it may well be a good solution. &#65533;However, it grossed out the admiral. 
&#65533;So, I'm on to this solution of a good holding tank design.
 
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 To: <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Subject: Stus-List New Head and holding tank system.
Date: Mon, Oct 21, 2013 9:51 pm
&#65533;
I'm mainly a daysailor who has so far avoided the poo issue. If I were to forgo 
my very comfortable bed and spend a night aboard Ox, I would first try to 
address the poo problem at the source - with bananas. Beyond that, I'd go Porta 
Potti and deal with it.
Bob M
Ox 33-1
Jax, FL
&#65533;
On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 11:27 AM, djhaug...@juno.com <djhaug...@juno.com> wrote:
Okay guys,
&#65533;
I'm planning a new waste system. &#65533;I'm going with the Raritan PHC head 
and a new holding tank. &#65533;I currently have a very old Jabsco head and a 
bladder holding tank. &#65533;I really don't like the bladder. &#65533;It has 
worked okay but, one day it will fail and it will be disgusting! &#65533;I just 
want rid of it...
&#65533;
I'm looking for ideas on the design. &#65533;i.e. &#65533;Where to install the 
tank and how to pipe it. &#65533;I've been reading and I was thinking to try 
and install about a 16-18 gallon tank, that conforms to the hull, behind the 
head. &#65533;However, after a closer look on Saturday, I'm not sure there is 
enough room there. &#65533;I was kind of hoping to install it there in order to 
pipe up a gravity drain for when I'm in an area where that is possible. 
&#65533;This would also keep the hose runs very short and I could easily vent 
and pipe the pump-out fitting in the side deck above.
&#65533;
Of course that would have the need of piping up hill to get into the tank and 
make it a bit harder to clear the waste from the hose with every flush. 
&#65533;Then I heard it might be better to have the waste run downhill to the 
tank. &#65533;That would create the need of pumping overboard if I were in an 
area that allowed it and the need of another pump. &#65533;
&#65533;
I'm not exactly sure how the pump-out system works when having it done at a 
pump-out station. &#65533;Is it a fitting that attaches to the deck fitting and 
sucks it up the hose or, do they run a smaller hose down into the tank and suck 
it directly out with their hose?
&#65533;
Anyway, &#65533;As always, any and all advice, insights and colorful comments 
are appreciated!
&#65533;
Danny
Lolita
1973 Viking 33
Westport Point, MA
 
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