Re: Stus-List surfing hulls

2014-10-31 Thread Jim Watts via CnC-List
I owned two Hinterhoeller built Sharks over the years. Great boats. Jim Watts Paradigm Shift C&C 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 31 October 2014 13:44, jimmy kelly via CnC-List wrote: > most amazing was 24ft shark design..by g hinterholler a cnc mfg founding > company. his early h30 also great sur

Stus-List surfing hulls

2014-10-31 Thread jimmy kelly via CnC-List
most amazing was 24ft shark design..by g hinterholler a cnc mfg founding company. his early h30 also great surfer.shark reported back in 1970s passing c&c 53 bonaventure in windy long distance race...shark was built for number years by cnc. ___ Th

Stus-List c&c surfing hulls

2014-10-31 Thread jimmy kelly via CnC-List
rob is rightearlier cca influence on cnc design did produce hulls that under right conditions would surf...notably crusader redline35,redline41,cnc43 early models...redline requires 4to8 ftwaves20 plus knots of wind aftwent from niagara to oswego on lake ontario ..surfed all the way

Re: Stus-List CnC-List Digest, Vol 105, Issue 89

2014-10-31 Thread Brent Driedger via CnC-List
I find the 27 mkV is very easy to surf. Keeping it there is the hard part. 15 knots of true wind with a swell will do it and is key to racing well. I have not managed to make her surf with wind alone and I'm not sure it can without blowing something up. Be interesting to hear otherwise. Brent

Re: Stus-List Planing/Surfing C&C hulls?

2014-10-31 Thread Robert Mazza via CnC-List
As long as we are comparing "war stories", despite previously maligning IOR hulls, the fastest I've gone in a keel boat was on *Marauder* in the long distance race of the 1975 Canada's Cup on Lake St. Clair, when it was blowing the shingles off the roof, and we had a #2 on the spinnaker pole. The b

Re: Stus-List Planing/Surfing C&C hulls?

2014-10-31 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
The 35 MK I does not come close to planning like a modern sport boat. The best I have done in flat water is 11 knots boatspeed with 50-60 knots on the stern and the working job up. At that speed the stern is sunk nearly to water level. In any kind of the waves the boat will surf/plane DOWN the wa

Re: Stus-List Planing/Surfing C&C hulls?

2014-10-31 Thread Martin DeYoung via CnC-List
>… older CCA type hulls, C&C 35s, 43s, and certainly the 61s were better off >the wind than the later IOR influenced hulls, which were better upwind than >the older boats. However, it would be interesting to hear from owners on that >subject. < Our 43 is a very well behaved boat on a reach or r

Re: Stus-List Planing/Surfing C&C hulls?

2014-10-31 Thread Russ & Melody via CnC-List
Hi Rob, This is from the notes section on the page of the link that Don sent. The first seven hulls where built at Evelyn’s Formula Yachts shop in Groton, CT. (C&C Yachts (Middletown, RI USA), built the rest (after 1984). The early hulls had Divinycell cores while the later ones had balsa co

Re: Stus-List Planing/Surfing C&C hulls?

2014-10-31 Thread Frederick G Street via CnC-List
The first year I had my 30mkI, I had to deliver from Duluth, MN to Bayfield, WI in time for charter season; we moved the boat the day after a big storm on Lake Superior, in the first half of May. The storm had spawned these huge rollers, about eight feet high, coming from the WSW and parallelin

Re: Stus-List Planing/Surfing C&C hulls?

2014-10-31 Thread Robert Mazza via CnC-List
Don, What years did C&C build these? Rob On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 12:11 PM, D Harben via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > C&C yard built but designed by Robert Evelyn > > http://sailboatdata.com/viewrecord.asp?class_ID=1164 > > > > On Oct 31, 2014, at 11:59 AM, D Harben via CnC-List >

Re: Stus-List CnC-List Digest, Vol 105, Issue 89

2014-10-31 Thread Alan Bergen via CnC-List
My best surfing experience was 12 knots boat speed, in 42 knots true wind speed, down the Straits of Juan de Fuca ---until my spinnaker exploded. It was a hell of a ride while it lasted. Alan Bergen 35 Mk III Thirsty Rose City YC Portland, OR Hi Rob and Hank, Did any of the C&C models hav

Re: Stus-List Planing/Surfing C&C hulls?

2014-10-31 Thread D Harben via CnC-List
C&C yard built but designed by Robert Evelyn http://sailboatdata.com/viewrecord.asp?class_ID=1164 > On Oct 31, 2014, at 11:59 AM, D Harben via CnC-List > wrote: > > Evelynn 32-2 > > Huge smile fun... Mike Dale and I were sailing from Oakville to Hamilton > Ontario for a regatta with strong

Re: Stus-List Planing/Surfing C&C hulls?

2014-10-31 Thread Robert Mazza via CnC-List
Not a definitive analysis, but my recollection is that the older CCA type hulls, C&C 35s, 43s, and certainly the 61s were better off the wind than the later IOR influenced hulls, which were better upwind than the older boats. However, it would be interesting to hear from owners on that subject. On

Re: Stus-List Planing/Surfing C&C hulls?

2014-10-31 Thread D Harben via CnC-List
Evelynn 32-2 Huge smile fun... Mike Dale and I were sailing from Oakville to Hamilton Ontario for a regatta with strong winds off the shore. EVE of Destruction had no working instruments but I did have a handheld Garmin. We were whooshing along eating our sandwiches, but we were curious to est

Re: Stus-List Running Lights >Approved LED bulbs

2014-10-31 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Touche' also has the Perko deck mounts on the bow casting. I keep a spare green lens on the boat. The dumb foredeck guy frequently drops the spin pole. The light is in exactly the right spot to get hammered by the end of the pole, breaking the lens. I need to talk to the foredeck guy. OK, Denn

Stus-List Planing/Surfing C&C hulls?

2014-10-31 Thread Dave Moore via CnC-List
Hi Rob and Hank, Did any of the C&C models have a particular strength in surfing (or planing) down wind in 15 to 20 knots true wind speed? Years ago I recall talking to Rob Ball about the importance of prismatic coefficient in surfing performance but I was remiss in not asking what C&C models ha

Re: Stus-List SAVE THE DATE -- 2015 C&C Northeast Rendezvous

2014-10-31 Thread David via CnC-List
Edd, Wow! This is impressive! Too damned impressive. Making us Northerners look like crap...😊 I assume you do not need the old website I was using? This prompts me to get a check out to Stu and close the thing down. Although there are pictures and movies on there...wonder if we can tra

Re: Stus-List Running Lights >Approved LED bulbs

2014-10-31 Thread Rick Brass via CnC-List
Those are exactly the lights I used to replace the lights on my 25 mk1. It was a direct replacement for the OEM lights. I think Perko offers them as well. Lenses for the lights are also available in the event your old stainless light is still functioning but the lens is cracked or scorched.

Re: Stus-List Running Lights >Approved LED bulbs

2014-10-31 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
Guys, One other point about unapproved lights -- The other boater would have to prove that the accident occurred because he could not see the lights. If your 1 nm light is only visible for .8 nm, how did that cause the accident? (and who is going to test the bulb?) Joel On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at

Re: Stus-List Running Lights >Approved LED bulbs

2014-10-31 Thread Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List
On 10/31/2014 10:45 AM, Rick Brass wrote: What you say is true, Bill; if you change the bulb the light fixture is no longer certified. Heck, if your wiring is corroded and delivers less than the voltage specified for testing, I'd bet is it no longer certified as well. Still certified, bu

Re: Stus-List Running Lights >Approved LED bulbs

2014-10-31 Thread Rick Brass via CnC-List
What you say is true, Bill; if you change the bulb the light fixture is no longer certified. Heck, if your wiring is corroded and delivers less than the voltage specified for testing, I’d bet is it no longer certified as well. But nowhere in the Consolidated Federal Regulations can I find a req

Re: Stus-List Running Lights >Approved LED bulbs

2014-10-31 Thread Ken Heaton via CnC-List
No, in 1973 the 35 Mk.1 had lights on top of the bow casting similar to these Perko Nav Lights: http://www.perko.com/catalog/navigation_lights_under_20_meters/76/horizontal_mount_side_light/ We fitted these as replacements for the originals a few years ago on a friends Mk.1 as they are CG Certifi

Re: Stus-List Running Lights >Approved LED bulbs

2014-10-31 Thread Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List
It is also important to consider mounting height when calculating how far away something can be seen. You lose distance due to curvature of the earth. Two 6 foot tall men standing on shores 6 miles across from each other cannot see each others heads, even without throwing even an inch of wave h

Re: Stus-List Running Lights >Approved LED bulbs

2014-10-31 Thread Burt Stratton via CnC-List
Does the 1973 MK1 have the flush mounted lights molded into the hull below the deck? My 1974 33 ¾ tonner does and I am having trouble just finding a lamp base for replacement. I am sure I will need to fabricate something. I had to fabricate new lenses. (green and red acrylic sheets). My lights each

Re: Stus-List Running Lights >Approved LED bulbs

2014-10-31 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
FYI - the running lights standard on the 1973 35 MK I, if you can find them, are sold as "not approved for new construction", so I think they do not meet modern standards either. I long ago switched to an Aquasignal 25 mounted on the pulpit which is MUCH more visible. Joe Della Barba Coquina C&

Re: Stus-List Running Lights >Approved LED bulbs

2014-10-31 Thread Bill Bina via CnC-List
Yes, you must comply with the regulations. NO, if you modify your existing light by changing from the original bulb as supplied with the fixture, it is no longer  legally CERTIFIED BY THE MANUFACTURER as being in compliance. If you end up in court, you will have t