Hi Rob,
This is from the notes section on the page of the link that Don sent.
The first seven hulls where built at Evelyns
Formula Yachts shop in Groton, CT. (C&C Yachts
(Middletown, RI USA), built the rest (after
1984). The early hulls had Divinycell cores
while the later ones had balsa cores.
(Disp. as boat was first offered is shown here.)
Cheers, Russ
If you dream, dream big.
If you can think of a better world you will have a better world.
If pigs could fly imagine how good their wings would taste...
At 09:17 AM 31/10/2014, you wrote:
Don,
What years did C&C build these?
Rob
On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 12:11 PM, D Harben via
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C&C yard built but designed by Robert Evelyn
<http://sailboatdata.com/viewrecord.asp?class_ID=1164>http://sailboatdata.com/viewrecord.asp?class_ID=1164
On Oct 31, 2014, at 11:59 AM, D Harben via
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Evelynn 32-2
Huge smile fun... Mike Dale and I were sailing
from Oakville to Hamilton Ontario for a regatta
with strong winds off the shore. EVE of
Destruction had no working instruments but I
did have a handheld Garmin. We were whooshing
along eating our sandwiches, but we were
curious to estimate our speed and eta ....
Consistent 16 to 18 knots according to gps ....
Don
On Oct 31, 2014, at 11:45 AM, Dave Moore via
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Hi Rob and Hank,
Did any of the C&C models have a particular
strength in surfing (or planing) down wind in
15 to 20 knots true wind speed? Years ago I
recall talking to Rob Ball about the
importance of prismatic coefficient in surfing
performance but I was remiss in not asking
what C&C models have the strongest surfing potential.Â
Thank you
Dave
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On Oct 30, 2014, at 3:14 PM, henry evans via
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Hi Rob,
Your knowledge of the history of C&C designs
is truly amazing. I enjoyed reading your tutorial.Â
I never knew Eric was in the kitchen
business. After I and a bunch of others
left the faltering C&C, I spent 10 years in
brick manufacturing which landed me in Des
Moines, Iowa. Exiting that business, I
bought an Architectural Millwork company and
two years later a kitchen cabinet
manufacturing and remodeling company. We ran
those two for 20 years, quadrupled their size
and sold them to retire on our trawler. And
we did a few boat interior remodels as well,
both power and sail. Our C&C 29 "Illusion" is
still winning races on Lake Rathbun, in SE Iowa.
We are docked at the Naval Air Station Marina
in Jacksonville, FL where Ann has been
undergoing tests at Mayo Clinic. As I look
out into the mooring area I can see the
distinctive lines of a C&C 35 MK I. A few
docks is a Landfall 38. It is amazing how
many C&C's we see as we travel up and down
the ICW each year. They are still the best looking boats on the water !
Cheers from Queen Ann's Revenge,
Hank
Â
On Thursday, October 30, 2014 4:32 PM, Robert
Mazza via CnC-List <<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
Hi John,
Another interesting mid Cuthbertson and
Cassian design, before the creation of C&C
Yachts. Big George tells me that Psyche II,
designed for Bob Grant, a future Commodore of
RCYC, was essentially a sister to Ivanhoe II
which proceeded Psyche by a couple of years.
Ivanhoe II was design number 64-4 for Comm.
Ray Engholm, also of RCYC. She was built in
aluminium at Engholm's aluminium fabrication
company Macotta. In actual fact Erich
Bruckmann installed the interior in IvanhoeÂ
after he left Metro Marine and had gone into
the kitchen installation business. It was
probability the building the interior on
Ivanhoe which kept him in the boat business.
The building of the interior at the same time
as the hull led to all sorts of problems with
the aluminium welds in the hull, but that's
another story! Â Psyche was design number
66-4, and followed the Redwing 30, Inferno
II, and Red Jacket, and immediately preceded
the Redline 41 and the Whitby 45. Therefore,
unlike Ivanhoe, Psyche was designed with a
separate keel and rudder. She was also built
in aluminium by Enholm's company Macotta, but
I'm not sure who installed the interior.
Possibly Dick Kneulman at Ontario Yachts. Â
Ivanhoe, which had a full keel and attached
rudder was also later modified to the
separate keel and rudder configuration.
Neither boat was specifically successful on
the race course, since the Ivanhoe hull lines
preceded Red Jacket, and Engholm himself was
a tad more conservative then Perry Connolly
in the type of boat he wanted. The
Ivanhoe/Psyche "sisters" were part of the
transition in yacht design taking place in
the 1960s. It's great to see Psyche still looking so good. A remarkable boat.
Bob Grant would be part of a number of
Canada's Cup syndicates, and later owned a
C&C 48, one of George's last designs at C&C,
before he handed design responsibilities over
to Rob Ball. Bob Grant also bought an Aurora
40, I believe, Mark Elis' first design after
parting company from C&C Custom Sales.
Rob
<mailto:johnbobro...@gmail.com>On Wed, Oct
29, 2014 at 10:20 PM, J Roger
<<mailto:johnbobro...@gmail.com>johnbobro...@gmail.com> wrote:
The 1968 43' Aluminum PSYCHE II:
<http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/f152/43-aluminum-c-and-c-custom-sloop-1968-42-000-florida-132804.html>http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/f152/43-aluminum-c-and-c-custom-sloop-1968-42-000-florida-132804.html
Would be grand to learn more about the
history, building techniques and sailing characteristics.
Cheers
J
<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>On Tue, Oct 28,
2014 at 10:13 AM, Robert Mazza via CnC-List
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The first six were built by Kurt Beister, on
the East Frisian Islands in northern Germany.
Most likely designed by Henry Gruber, but
modified for North American requirements by
Cuthbertson and Cassian with the addition of
a CCA type yawl rig and the modification of
the ballast casting to add more lead. CN35Â
Hull #1, Ca Va, was owned by Ian Morch, who
would go on to found Belleville Marine and
become the first President of C&C Yachts. Ian
just passed away about two weeks ago. Hull
#6, Carousel. the first to be built by Cliff
Richardson in Ontario, but finished by Dick
Kneulman at Ontario Yachts, was owned by
Perry Connolly, who, of course would soon
commission Cuthbertson and Cassian to design
a 40 footer named Red Jacket. Amazing to see
hull #10 available. A truly historic vessel.
Rob Mazza
<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>On Mon, Oct 27,
2014 at 9:39 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List
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And I thought some of us had "old" boats. Take a peek at this:
<http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1962/C%26C-Canadian-Northern-Hull-%2310-2743930/Mobile/AL/United-States#.VE7zJhZNfh8><<http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1962/C%26C-Canadian-Northern-Hull-%2310-2743930/Mobile/AL/United-States#.VE7zJhZNfh8>http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1962/C%26C-Canadian-Northern-Hull-%2310-2743930/Mobile/AL/United-States#.VE7zJhZNfh8>
Note the "Star" on the bow cove stripe.
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
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