Re: Stus-List boat insurance

2013-03-13 Thread Indigo
ACE have always treated me well - small premium increases and payout for the one claim I made Jonathan Indigo 35iii - Southport -- Jonathan Trade Show Services Cell: (203) 395 0225 www.tradeshowservicesusa.com On Mar 14, 2013, at 0:23, Alan Bergen wrote: > Call BoatUS. They'll give you a qu

Re: Stus-List boat insurance

2013-03-13 Thread Alan Bergen
Call BoatUS. They'll give you a quote, and if it's a good quote, you can become a member and get their insurance. Personally, I wouldn't get insurance from anyone who doesn't specialize in boat insurance. You want to make sure you have adequate coverage: hull, liability, fuel spill, etc. If you

Re: Stus-List boat insurance

2013-03-13 Thread billbruce
I have a LF38 insured through Allstate...not a problem Bill Bruce Josh Muckley wrote: > Nope never heard of it. Call Gowrie Group. > > -- > When security matters. > http://www.secure-my-email.com > On Mar 13, 2013 2:43 PM, "David Knecht" wrote: > > > I am looking for insurance on the C

Re: Stus-List mainsheet blocks for 29'

2013-03-13 Thread Rick Brass
I have a 3:1 Garhauer mainsheet arrangement on the traveler car on my 38, and the 81 year old guy who used to trim the main had no problems with it. It is a lot faster to sheet, and it seems like there are several miles less line laying on the cockpit sole. Once you are on the wind I use the vang

Re: Stus-List mainsheet blocks for 29'

2013-03-13 Thread Dennis C.
We use a 6:1 harken carboblock system on Touché. Had it for over 12 years. Like the simplicity. If you don't mind a bunch of line in the cockpit, it works well. Dennis C. Touché 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA Sent from my iPhone On Mar 13, 2013, at 6:33 PM, "tim" wrote: > Hi, > >I’m in the

Stus-List Mirage Progress

2013-03-13 Thread Harry Hallgring
Big day at the yard (for me anyway!)...1st coat of non-skid applied.Awlcraft 200050-50% Chevy White/Whisper Gray50% flattened75-25% coarse/extra coarse gritMIRAGE PicturesHarryMIRAGENortheast 39 ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.

Re: Stus-List mainsheet blocks for 29'

2013-03-13 Thread Tom Christopher
Tim,   When I moved my traveler from cabintop to cockpit, I tried a 6:1 triple.too much rope.   I went to a 5:1 Hobie 16 setup,  works great.  Bought one off fleabay. Tom C&C 30 mk 2 Port Colborne ON From: tim To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Wednesday, M

Re: Stus-List mainsheet blocks for 29'

2013-03-13 Thread Joel Aronson
I went from 4:1 to 6:1 with a camcleat on my 35/3. Used Garhauer blocks. Made a huge difference. No longer need to use a winch in a breeze. Traveler is original. Joel Aronson On Mar 13, 2013, at 7:34 PM, tim wrote: Hi, I’m in the process of replacing the traveler, mainsheet blocks on m

Stus-List mainsheet blocks for 29'

2013-03-13 Thread tim
Hi, I'm in the process of replacing the traveler, mainsheet blocks on my 29'. Think I still have original equipment and is in the cockpit. Can others provide me with types of blocks they use or recommendations? I viewed the Harken site, with recommendation a 6:1 triple block system (hexrat

Re: Stus-List boat insurance

2013-03-13 Thread Josh Muckley
Nope never heard of it. Call Gowrie Group. -- When security matters. http://www.secure-my-email.com On Mar 13, 2013 2:43 PM, "David Knecht" wrote: > I am looking for insurance on the C&C34+ I am hopefully purchasing and ran > into an unusual response from Allstate. They told me they could not

Re: Stus-List Fwd: C&C 38 Landfall on ebay

2013-03-13 Thread Joe Della Barba
We paid more for the boat than our house and that house is currently worth about $500,000. So in my mind, she is more than that :) Joe Della Barba j...@dellabarba.com From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Ronald B. Frerker Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 5:28 PM T

Re: Stus-List Fwd: C&C 38 Landfall on ebay

2013-03-13 Thread Ronald B. Frerker
'course, if you don't sell, then your boat has all the value you think it has!!! Ron Wild Cheri C&C 30 (valued at many times its current sales price) STL --- On Tue, 3/12/13, Della Barba, Joe wrote: From: Della Barba, Joe Subject: Re: Stus-List Fwd: C&C 38 Landfall on ebay To: "cnc-list@cnc-l

Re: Stus-List boat insurance

2013-03-13 Thread Knowles Rich
I'd ask a question or two and if they can't give you a sensible answer "Sorry we screwed up!" I'd run away really quickly. Rich Knowles INDIGO LF38 Halifax, NS. On 2013-03-13, at 3:43 PM, David Knecht wrote: I am looking for insurance on the C&C34+ I am hopefully purchasing and ran into a

Re: Stus-List boat insurance

2013-03-13 Thread Fred Hazzard
I have 2 sailboats insured thru State Farm. I lost the mast on Cal 20 and while I was insured for only $3500 they paid $3200 less $250 deductible. My agent then suggested that maybe I'd like to raise my coverage. Speaking of insurance, State Farm will not insure my boat in Mexico. I am plan

Re: Stus-List Lifesling case

2013-03-13 Thread Graham Collins
Hi Joel I've made a sunbrella case, using the original case as a pattern. Not a big job if you know someone who can use a sewing machine. Graham Collins Secret Plans C&C 35-III #11 On 2013-03-03 10:03 PM, Joel Aronson wrote: Has anyone wrapped their case in Sunbrella? Joel Sent from my iPad

Stus-List 4200 vs Lifeseal

2013-03-13 Thread Dennis C.
FYI, I've just about stopped using 4200.  Seems a lot of the tubes I've gotten were partially cured. I like Lifeseal better.  Seems to adhere to more things better. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Alb

Re: Stus-List boat insurance

2013-03-13 Thread John Schumpert
David, I have a 1991 34+ which is insured with BoatUS. I've been very happy with them and they give a discount on premiums each year if there have been no claims. Of course, the premiums will probably increase this year due to the damage by Sandy. Monty Schumpert Scandia 1991 C&C 34+ Annapolis, M

Re: Stus-List boat insurance

2013-03-13 Thread Andrew Burton
I just had good luck with Dawn at Gowrie Barden and Brett for Peregrine, and I just got insurance for the owner of an old boat I'm delivering from Central America through her. they understand boats. Andy C&C 40 Peregrine On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 2:43 PM, David Knecht wrote: > I am looking for insu

Re: Stus-List boat insurance

2013-03-13 Thread Della Barba, Joe
Allstate - from what I can tell and I have them for my house - might insure a fishing boat in your driveway, but wants nothing to do with "yacht insurance". I have been very happy with BOATUS insurance. Joe Della Barba From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of David Kn

Re: Stus-List boat insurance

2013-03-13 Thread Edd Schillay
David, I've never heard of that before. Suggest you give Total Dollar a call (www.totaldollar.com). Ask for Tom Carroll or Colin Fitzpatrick. Not only did they have the best price quote out there for my 37+, the coverage and claim response under Travelers has been phe

Stus-List boat insurance

2013-03-13 Thread David Knecht
I am looking for insurance on the C&C34+ I am hopefully purchasing and ran into an unusual response from Allstate. They told me they could not quote a policy because the underwriter will not insure a boat of more than 34 feet for coastal use. Has anyone heard of anything like this before? It

Re: Stus-List A convincing case in favor of boarding ladders

2013-03-13 Thread David Knecht
As to Wally's last point, I bought one of those Plastimo emergency boarding ladders a while back and it is really hard to get up one of those onto the boat in calm conditions. I would not want to try it with a boat lurching in high seas. Dave On Mar 13, 2013, at 12:24 PM, Wally Bryant wrote:

Re: Stus-List Fwd: C&C 38 Landfall on ebay

2013-03-13 Thread David Risch
I have a buddy who would be curious about the boat. Thanks for heading down. David F. Risch 1981 40-2 (401) 419-4650 (cell) From: joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 13:58:39 -0400 Subject: Re: Stus-List Fwd: C&C 38 Landfall on ebay If you look at the aucti

Re: Stus-List Filling holes in deck/mounting new clutches

2013-03-13 Thread Rick Brass
I was surprised to find so many hard areas in the cabin top. I even found solid glass areas where I installed the turning blocks aft of the mast (along a line about 45 degrees off the centerline of the boat) and straight forward of the cabin top winches. Another thought about drill and fill, s

Re: Stus-List Fwd: C&C 38 Landfall on ebay

2013-03-13 Thread Bill Coleman
Last summer when I came back from a few days away I found a for sale sign on my boat - and a lot of people asking questions. My neighbor thought he would help me out ;^) Bill Coleman C&C 39 animated_favicon1 6 - Owner is on vacation and neighbors decided to have some fun. If this boa

Re: Stus-List Filling holes in deck/mounting new clutches

2013-03-13 Thread Joel Aronson
Rick, Thanks for the tip. I've got the access panels, but at least where the clutches are its cored. Further aft where the winches are mounted its all glass. Joel 35/3 Annapolis On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 2:06 PM, Rick Brass wrote: > You said the mounting holes are drilled through the core. I’

Re: Stus-List Filling holes in deck/mounting new clutches

2013-03-13 Thread Rick Brass
You said the mounting holes are drilled through the core. I'm surprised, every place you would logically put a winch, cleat, clutch or turning block on the deck of my 38 is solid glass, and most have access panels in the headliner. If you are drilled through the core, you should over drill and

Re: Stus-List Filling holes in deck/mounting new clutches

2013-03-13 Thread Joel Aronson
Its unanimous! Epoxy it is! Tim, Ouch!! I bet BoatUS has other ideas! Good luck! Joel 35/3 Annapolis On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Tim Goodyear wrote: > Joel, > > When I replaced my clutches there was no core in the area, a nice > surprise. I think the area under the companionway winc

Re: Stus-List Fwd: C&C 38 Landfall on ebay

2013-03-13 Thread Della Barba, Joe
If you look at the auction now, you can see more info. Apparently the sails ARE new - used 3 times. The radar/gps is 5 years old. Apparently the boat comes with an inflatable dinghy too. My theories so far: 1 - Owner is in a real hurry to sell. 2 - No one can finance old boats anymore, so market i

Re: Stus-List Filling holes in deck/mounting new clutches

2013-03-13 Thread Tim Goodyear
Joel, When I replaced my clutches there was no core in the area, a nice surprise. I think the area under the companionway winches was deemed high-load. You want to permanently fill the holes, so epoxy, not sealant. The tricky part will be getting a plug of epoxy to stay without cracking at the e

Re: Stus-List Filling holes in deck/mounting new clutches

2013-03-13 Thread Martin DeYoung
Epoxy. 4200 will not soak into the balsa and will fail in a few years. Calypso has seen many hole filling techniques over the last 43 years. Even the wood plugs with some type of glue failed. Martin Calypso 1970 C&C 43 Seattle From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-bo

Re: Stus-List Filling holes in deck/mounting new clutches

2013-03-13 Thread Hoyt, Mike
thickened epoxy From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel Aronson Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 2:42 PM To: Dennis C.; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Filling holes in deck/mounting new clutches Dennis, What about t

Re: Stus-List Sail logo

2013-03-13 Thread Tim Sippel
I had the same logo on my sail .. didn't ask , didn't even think about it ... Quantum just did it ... looked cool on the Kevlar ! Tim -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Wally Bryant Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 12:50 PM To: w...@wbr

Re: Stus-List Filling holes in deck/mounting new clutches

2013-03-13 Thread Joel Aronson
Dennis, What about the old holes I'm filling? Epoxy or 4200? On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 1:37 PM, Joel Aronson wrote: > Dennis, > > I have a countersink to taper the edges. > > Went with the Garhauers. > http://garhauermarine.com/images/product/14-11%20S_final.jpg > The boat show price was ridicul

Re: Stus-List Fwd: C&C 38 Landfall on ebay

2013-03-13 Thread Andrew Burton
Wal, I always figure I don't need to be able to laugh at myself, that's what friends are for. Andy Peregrine C&C 40 On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 1:37 PM, Wally Bryant wrote: > Darn, there goes my retirement investment. > > That's a joke, of course. I think it was 5-8 years ago I had a late night

Re: Stus-List Filling holes in deck/mounting new clutches

2013-03-13 Thread Martin DeYoung
We are doing this today on Calypso. I concur with Pat's advice, and in the last 6 weeks have filled 15 to 20 old hardware mounting holes basically the same way. We do chamfer the top and bottom of the hole to give the filled epoxy some extra resistance to movement. The West Six10 has worked ve

Re: Stus-List Filling holes in deck/mounting new clutches

2013-03-13 Thread Tim Sippel
In addition after re-filling and drilling I tap threads into the epoxy , don't know if that's good or bad or overkill but I do it . Tim From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis C. Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 1:27 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re

Re: Stus-List Filling holes in deck/mounting new clutches

2013-03-13 Thread Joel Aronson
Dennis, I have a countersink to taper the edges. Went with the Garhauers. http://garhauermarine.com/images/product/14-11%20S_final.jpg The boat show price was ridiculous for a set of 4. Joel On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 1:27 PM, Dennis C. wrote: > Overbore and fill. "It's a rule". Then, after y

Re: Stus-List Fwd: C&C 38 Landfall on ebay

2013-03-13 Thread Wally Bryant
Darn, there goes my retirement investment. That's a joke, of course. I think it was 5-8 years ago I had a late night tequila moment and listed Stella Blue on the Latitude 38 classifieds for $750,000 dollars, based on the cost of upgrades and hours spent. They actually called me up in the c

Re: Stus-List Fwd: C&C 38 Landfall on ebay - cored hull

2013-03-13 Thread Martin DeYoung
>>I may a victim of assumption and stereotype but, I cringe at the thought of a >>cored hull. << It is straight forward to find delamination from rotted core. Without the expense of a full survey the areas most likely to have delamination can be checked by an amateur. I do recommend paying fo

Re: Stus-List Filling holes in deck/mounting new clutches

2013-03-13 Thread Dennis C.
Overbore and fill.  "It's a rule".  Then, after you re-drill, bevel the edges of the deck so you don't have a square edges hole. Hopefully you're replacing with Lewmar clutches? Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA > > From: Joel Aronson >To: "cnc-list@

Re: Stus-List lovet bilge pump

2013-03-13 Thread Pete Shelquist
Nice catch. -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Wally Bryant Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 12:00 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List lovet bilge pump Right. If you have a battery monitoring system, though, run the grou

Re: Stus-List Filling holes in deck/mounting new clutches

2013-03-13 Thread Pat Nevitt
Joel, When I did mine, I over-drilled the holes and then used the bent tip of a nail to widen the area between the glass even more, then it was filled with West Six10 epoxy. When that dried, I redrilled holes. This way you never have to worry about water getting into the core. Just be careful t

Stus-List Filling holes in deck/mounting new clutches

2013-03-13 Thread Joel Aronson
I'm planning to replace a set of clutches this weekend. The old ones are mounted on teak blocks and bolted with 1/4 inch bolts and backing plates. The holes were drilled right through the core with no epoxy. There does not seem to be any water intrusion, as the bottom of the teak block was cover

Re: Stus-List lovet bilge pump

2013-03-13 Thread Wally Bryant
Right. If you have a battery monitoring system, though, run the ground line through the shunt so that the monitor is aware of the activity. Wal Robert wrote: Dan, You have answered your own questionwire the bilge pump direct to the battery...make sure there is an inline fuse. _

Re: Stus-List Sail logo

2013-03-13 Thread Wally Bryant
PS. A great side effect of this is that the stripes can be matched on both sides of the sail, so that when the logo on one side doesn't show through when the sun is shining. I wrote: When I put a new main on Stella Blue, I had them put 'Blue Red Blue' stripes on. That's enough of the C&C lo

Re: Stus-List Sail logo

2013-03-13 Thread Wally Bryant
When I put a new main on Stella Blue, I had them put 'Blue Red Blue' stripes on. That's enough of the C&C logo for anyone who knows to say 'Hey, there's a C...' I should have had them put two sets on side by side so it would actually say C *and* C, but I didn't know better at the time. Wal

Re: Stus-List A convincing case in favor of boarding ladders

2013-03-13 Thread Wally Bryant
Wow. I'm glad that comedy didn't end in tragedy. 1) What were they doing off the boat in the first place? Was there no warning of weather coming? I've had folks laugh at me when I see lightning 20 miles off shore and insist that I gobble my tacos and get back to the boat. 2) Driving a din

Re: Stus-List C&C 38 Landfall on ebay

2013-03-13 Thread Della Barba, Joe
The actual wording of the ad: 1979 C&C Landfall38 has been owned for the last 10 years and the following work has been done: Updated electrical panels, dual battery charger, Raymarine complete sailing package with wind, close haul wind, depth, speed, wheel pilot and 24 mile radar. Full color

Stus-List C&C 38 Landfall on ebay

2013-03-13 Thread Robert Abbott
When we were looking for a boat in 2005-06, we ran across some really interesting boats for sale, meaning they looked to be 'impressive buys' or 'great deals' until you started to 'peel the onion'. One was a local boat, a Mirage 32 advertised by a local broker..pictures made the boat look

Re: Stus-List Fwd: C&C 38 Landfall on ebay

2013-03-13 Thread djhaug...@juno.com
Well, the wording is "1979 C&C Landfall38 has been owned for the last 10 years and the following work has been done:" As far as I would assume, all this work got done 10 years ago, except where he gives the date of the work. 10 year old sails are old, right? 10 year old electronics are old, ri

Re: Stus-List Fwd: C&C 38 Landfall on ebay

2013-03-13 Thread Della Barba, Joe
I knew things were bad.but maybe not quite this bad. If a Landfall 38 with new interior cushions, new sails, new-ish electronics, heat, refrigeration, radar, autopilot, redone fuel tank, rigging gone over, and new-ish canvas is worth $20K, what is a "normal" LF38 with older sails and inter

Re: Stus-List Fwd: C&C 38 Landfall on ebay

2013-03-13 Thread Dave Godwin
I agree with all of those points. I found the seller's comments interesting as regards the condition. To me he seemed to be saying, "hey, be realistic, yes it's an old boat. But look at what you're getting…" Old boats of any kind have very, very little value these days. If you're trying to sell