Well, the wording is "1979 C&C Landfall38 has been owned for the last 10 years and the following work has been done:"
As far as I would assume, all this work got done 10 years ago, except where he gives the date of the work. 10 year old sails are old, right? 10 year old electronics are old, right? etc... you know, 5 years from now, this might be worth $35,000... I paid $5,000 for Lolita 2 years ago. She needed EVERYTHING! Re-power, Sails, Rigging... I've dumped another 15k to 20k into her and I'd probably be lucky to get 15k right now. Good thing I'm not selling. Oh I can't wait to get out sailing on her again! I may a victim of assumption and stereotype but, I cringe at the thought of a cored hull. Especially in a 30+ year old boat... I bet there are a lot of other thick headed people out there that feel that way as. After all, I didn't come up with that aversion on my own... You know surveyors don't catch everything and the survey itself is very subjective so even with it being surveyed there is no guarantee that the decks or hull aren't compromised... Danny Lolita 1973 Viking 33 Westport Point, MA ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "Della Barba, Joe" <joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List Fwd: C&C 38 Landfall on ebay Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 07:34:27 -0400 I knew things were bad.....but maybe not quite this bad. If a Landfall 38 with new interior cushions, new sails, new-ish electronics, heat, refrigeration, radar, autopilot, redone fuel tank, rigging gone over, and new-ish canvas is worth $20K, what is a "normal" LF38 with older sails and interior worth? $5K? 10K? And the LF series is "new" compared to my boat! What I hope isn't the case is something like major core rot and the owner wants the boat sold on FleaBay without a survey. Joe Della Barba -----Original Message----- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dave Godwin Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 6:12 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Fwd: C&C 38 Landfall on ebay I agree with all of those points. I found the seller's comments interesting as regards the condition. To me he seemed to be saying, "hey, be realistic, yes it's an old boat. But look at what you're getting..." Old boats of any kind have very, very little value these days. If you're trying to sell one by-in-large you will need to find someone who can pay cash. Loans for 30+ year-old boats are tough. My neighbor across the creek has a box stock, repainted deck and hull and kept in immaculate condition (redundant, I know) 1975 Hinckley Pilot 35 that has been on the market for three years at somewhere around $115,000. He's probably had about 3 people even come to look at it. For that kind of money plus a bit more a buyer can get a new Beneteau with an interior 4 times the size. A buddy of mine with Beneteau in Southern California has been pushing them out the door as fast as they can be delivered for over a year now. I fully expect to give my boat away after doing what Joe is describing for his boat, a complete refit, paint and upgrades. Of course that is when I am done with sailing it and hopefully somewhere not in the near future. But I really don't care as I will have gotten plenty of enjoyment out of her for the money and time put in. That could be the situation that this seller is dealing with. Dave 1982 C&C 37 - "Ronin" On Mar 12, 2013, at 9:11 PM, Martin DeYoung wrote: >>> I am still trying to get putting new sails, paint, interior, radar, >>> etc. on > a boat and then selling her for the cost of what you just added. << > > I expect many tired boat owners reach a point where the monthly care, > feeding, and moorage costs drive them to sell at almost any price. > > A few may have completed all the planned voyages and adventures. Some have > to sell for a divorce or other major life/health change. > > If the wife has interest in looking at a boat for sale I say what could hurt? > I know if my wife caught me seriously looking at another boat while still > owning a share of Calypso I would join one of the groups listed above. > > Martin > Calypso > 1970 C&C 43 > Seattle > > -----Original Message----- > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joe > Della Barba > Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 5:51 PM > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List Fwd: C&C 38 Landfall on ebay > > We just might. My wife LOVES the LF38 layout. > Last one we looked at for $49K, described as a great boat, had: > Leaking fuel tank > Reeked of diesel > Reeked of mold > Hatches leaked > The cabin sides had swollen and split aft of the ports. > It was barely worth scrap value IMHO. > > I am still trying to get putting new sails, paint, interior, radar, > etc. on a boat and then selling her for the cost of what you just added. > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
