Re: Stus-List C&C 25 shoal draft keel

2013-02-24 Thread David Blair
Will track down the owner and call them in the next day or two. From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Mark G Sent: February-24-13 6:30 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 25 shoal draft keel David, Would love to know a little more if you ca

Re: Stus-List Torque Multiplier for Keel Bolt Nuts

2013-02-24 Thread Steve Thomas
Well ok, here it is now: http://www.princessauto.com/pal/product/8063927/Torque-Wrenches/Torque-Multiplier -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]On Behalf Of Steve Thomas Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:01 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-

Stus-List Torque Multiplier for Keel Bolt Nuts

2013-02-24 Thread Steve Thomas
Since we all have bolt-on lead keels, torque has one way or another been a subject of many posts over the years. Personally I have found it impossible to get to the recommended torque with just myself and a 1/2 inch torque wrench. I wound up using an electric impact wrench that was supposed to

Stus-List holding

2013-02-24 Thread Harald Braun
Hi, I like to enlarge my holding tank of my 1985 C&C Mk3. I have a second water tank I don't really need. We sail in Georgian bay and the North Channel and it would be great to have more Holding tank capacity. Any thoughts. Cheers Harald ___ Th

Stus-List Cruising Spinnaker

2013-02-24 Thread Paul Wagner
Thinking of getting a 35' x 18' Symmetrical spinnaker for a C&C 29 Mk 1 Thoughts...Comments?? Paul N. Wagner s/v Rum-Line 1977 C&C 29 Mk1 ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com

Re: Stus-List Project photos - bilge painting, stern seats, refinished sole, limber hole

2013-02-24 Thread Joel Aronson
And they have that new bilge smell! It was a major PIA carrying buckets of water from the bath house to the boat to clean the bilge but it was worth it. Joel 35/3 The Office Annapolis Sent from my iPad On Feb 24, 2013, at 5:44 PM, Pat Nevitt wrote: You've been busy! The bilges look like new!

Re: Stus-List C&C 25 shoal draft keel

2013-02-24 Thread sam . c . salter
There is a CnC 25 with shoal draft keel on our lake. I think it was bought new by the marina owners dad. I think it was an option.Sam :-)

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2013-02-24 Thread Harald Braun
-Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of cnc-list-ow...@cnc-list.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 9:20 PM To: har...@davenportcatering.com Subject: The results of your email commands The results of your email command are provided below. Att

Re: Stus-List C&C 25 shoal draft keel

2013-02-24 Thread Mark G
David, Would love to know a little more if you can find out without too much trouble. I'm wondering if he worked with a Nav Arch to make the modification. I noticed that he doesn't mention the mod in the ad, so maybe it was done by a prior owner and he's not aware that it's unusual. Mark -

Re: Stus-List 37+ Shower

2013-02-24 Thread Dennis C.
Colin, I agree, to a point.  I would definitely agree in the case of a centrifugal bilge pump.  They don't develop much head and hose run and restrictions can greatly affect output.  However, Tom stated his pump is a Jabsco 36970-1000.  It's a diaphragm pump, rated at 3.4 gpm at 20 psi.  I susp

Re: Stus-List 37+ Shower

2013-02-24 Thread Colin Kilgour
Dennis, Testing a pump against its rated capacity is pretty much a losing game because the ratings assume virtually no rise above the pump and they also assume full voltage at the pump. In most configurations, you'll have a long-ish hose run to get the water overboard (longer than they used in th

Re: Stus-List 37+ Shower

2013-02-24 Thread Patrick Wesley
Wasn't aware that was technically possible. Patrick Wesley Sent from my iPad On 2013-02-24, at 12:27 PM, Jim Watts wrote: > You can save some pumping capacity by not peeing while you are having a > shower. > > > > On 24 February 2013 10:42, Colin Kilgour wrote: >> 1. You could upsize the

Re: Stus-List new sails

2013-02-24 Thread Gary Nylander
As most of you have, I went through this a couple of years ago. After having a 3DL with taffeta on one side (one of the early ones built that way) which delaminated into a pile of strings (really cute!), I asked around to many of the lofts in Maryland. Finally decided on a new dacron main and 15

Re: Stus-List Considering a New Genoa

2013-02-24 Thread Josh Muckley
Well if it comes to racing then I can see needing a 150 but if that is the case then you are not really planing on a cruising sail after all. A sail change is much easier with a full crew. I assumed that if you were looking for a furling sail that it was for cruising. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk

Re: Stus-List Sailmakers

2013-02-24 Thread Chuck S
Josh, Thanks for the details. That helps a lot. Chuck Resolute 1990 C&C 34R Atlantic City, NJ - Original Message - From: "Josh Muckley" To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 2:43:42 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Sailmakers I checked again and found that it wa

Re: Stus-List Considering a New Genoa

2013-02-24 Thread dwight veinot
I don't think you'll be better off with the 135 off the wind in light air.the light air 150 used properly will be worth the handicap penalty and more.will you have to do a sail change or can you normally use a light 150 for the whole race.sail changes can cost a lot of time.., Dwight Veinot

Re: Stus-List Considering a New Genoa

2013-02-24 Thread Edd Schillay
All, It's true. The 135 I have is very sufficient. And anything bigger in over 10 would have us overpowered. But the problem is the non-spinnaker racing. Wing on wing downwind in a dying LI Sound breeze can be painful with a 135. I didn't contact UK because they are usually higher priced. Bu

Re: Stus-List 37+ Shower

2013-02-24 Thread Dennis C.
First, I would check the output of the shower sump pump vs its stated capacity.  Most shower sump systems pump 500 or 750 gph.  Just get a 2 gallon bucket and time how long it takes to pump out 2 gallons.  If it's a 500 gph pump and it only pumps 200 gph, then troubleshoot it.  I doubt the ori

Re: Stus-List Project photos - bilge painting, stern seats, refinished sole, limber hole

2013-02-24 Thread Pat Nevitt
You've been busy! The bilges look like new! On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 4:22 PM, Joel Aronson wrote: > Photos from the weekend projects are at: > > facebook.com/theoffice35 > > Joel > Sent from my iPad > > ___ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album

Re: Stus-List 34 perceptions

2013-02-24 Thread william striegel
I have a C&C 34 as well; 1982; #419; Keel/CB; do add the 2nd reef; will come in handy; sailed w a 110 a lot as well, as i sail alone 90% of the time; everyone asks you t take them sailing, but when you ask, I can't right now; one can spend 30 min trying to find someone to sail with; might as w

Stus-List New Sails

2013-02-24 Thread Ryan Raber
FYI: new sail for Scapa last summer: all radial cut: New Main: Pentex, PX/PE 15/20, Leech Line Sail Numbers, Tell Tales, 3 Sail Ties, Sail Bag, 1 Reef, Batten Full Length or Standard, Sail Numbers. $4,515.00 or Carbon, GPL 10/14 $5,765.00 120% Genoa (RF): 1) Pentex- PX/PE 10/15, Leech and Foot L

Stus-List Project photos - bilge painting, stern seats, refinished sole, limber hole

2013-02-24 Thread Joel Aronson
Photos from the weekend projects are at: facebook.com/theoffice35 Joel Sent from my iPad ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com

Re: Stus-List 37+ Shower

2013-02-24 Thread Jim Watts
You can save some pumping capacity by not peeing while you are having a shower. On 24 February 2013 10:42, Colin Kilgour wrote: > 1. You could upsize the shower pump. > > 2. You could create an inline reservoir of sorts between the shower > sump and the pump. Depending on how big an issue yo

Re: Stus-List Holding tank

2013-02-24 Thread Josh Muckley
Get a vacuflush and keep/fix the freshwater tank. Much better bang for the buck. Vacuflush will effectively make your holding tank 8x larger. It only uses a pint (fresh water) per flush. Most people use 0.5 to 1.0 gallon per flush with the hand pumps. The vacuflush has never clogged for me. P

Re: Stus-List Sailmakers

2013-02-24 Thread Josh Muckley
I checked again and found that it was actually Challenge 8.62 cloth. It was recommended by the sail maker, Clark McKinney. He is a strong competitor in the local sail races and has been the owner operator of the local Quantum sail loft for at least the last 10 years and probably closer to 20. He

Re: Stus-List Holding tank

2013-02-24 Thread Joel Aronson
Unless the thru hulls are in the way there should be room under the vee berth. Try Kracor or consider a bladder type tank. Joel Aronson On Feb 24, 2013, at 2:00 PM, Harald Braun wrote: Hi, I have a 1985 35 ft C&C Mk3 and I would like to enlarge my holding tank and it is also leaking on the top

Stus-List Holding tank

2013-02-24 Thread Harald Braun
Hi, I have a 1985 35 ft C&C Mk3 and I would like to enlarge my holding tank and it is also leaking on the top so it needs to be replaced or fixe. I have a second water tank on the starboard side and thought I might be able to use that spot. Preferable I would like to enlarge the tank under the V bi

Re: Stus-List 37+ Shower

2013-02-24 Thread Colin Kilgour
1. You could upsize the shower pump. 2. You could create an inline reservoir of sorts between the shower sump and the pump. Depending on how big an issue you've got, you could create a dedicated reservoir or if it's a minor issue you could just upsize the hose diameter. On Bojangles, we just tu

Re: Stus-List 34 perceptions

2013-02-24 Thread OldSteveH
Nice post. Reminds me of Captain Jack Aubrey talking to the doctor about the Surprise. "... The Surprise is not old; no one would call her old. She has a bluff bow, lovely lines. She's a fine seabird: weatherly, stiff and fast... very fast, if she's well handled. No, she's not old; she's in her pr

Re: Stus-List Sails & Sailmakers

2013-02-24 Thread Dennis C.
Ditto.  There are so many considerations the non-sailmaker boat owner might not consider. One big consideration is the slot.  The genoa and main need to work together.  If a sailmaker is really good, he'll hoist and look at the "other" sail, the one you're not buying.  For instance, if you have

Re: Stus-List Sailmakers

2013-02-24 Thread dwight veinot
Chuck I have an 8.4 oz Challenge crosscut, 135%, high clew, roller furling headsail with foam luff made by Doyle. Crosscut Dacron because it was less expensive than other materials or other cuts. It also has a longer useful life I expect. 8.4 oz because I sometimes use it as a 110% or

Stus-List Sails & Sailmakers

2013-02-24 Thread HONEYSAIL
We have owned our C&C 39 TM #39069-74 since Dec of 1975 and took delivery of her in Savannah on 4 Feb 1976. Since then we have purchased race & cruising sails from, Fraker (original suit built for the PO/C&C), North/Newport, North/San Diego, Gleason, Quantum, Dave Calvert & now UK Halsey's

Stus-List Considering a New Genoa

2013-02-24 Thread Tom Buscaglia
I picked up a new asym from National for Jubilee, our 35 MK 1. Dirk used to work at the Rolly Tasker loft in SE Asia, where a bunch of sail companies actually have theirs made. So he knows the operation very well and was great to deal with. Also, his price point was the best. If you are thin

Stus-List new sails

2013-02-24 Thread Chuck S
Hi Edd, Why not ask for a price from UK? They must be your closest sailmaker and repairs should be less on their own sails? All of Resolute's racing sails are UK sails, Kevlar Edge, from 1997 and 1998, but have some life left in them since they were used only two seasons by the PO and haven't

Stus-List 37+ Shower

2013-02-24 Thread Tom Buscaglia
Cruising question for the 37+ O's on the list. Having never had the luxury of a shower on board before, this is all new to me, Our shower sump runs a little slower than the shower does. As a result, if we loose focus mid shower (and who doesn't) , we get an overflow. I have checked the pick

Re: Stus-List Sailmakers

2013-02-24 Thread Chuck S
Please explain reasons for choosing Quantum 8.4 Challenge cross cut? There are so many choices, and sails are an expensive, long term investment. Chuck Resolute 1990 C&C 34R Atlantic City, NJ - Original Message - From: "Josh Muckley" To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Sunday, Februa

Re: Stus-List Sailmakers

2013-02-24 Thread Josh Muckley
Just had my main made by Quantum with ~8.4 Challenge sail cloth...cross cut. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 C&C 37+ -- Want to email me privately? Check out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Privacy_Guard Then get my public key at: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B8pEh5lnvP1yU0R5RHBOS2h3MFk/edi

Re: Stus-List Considering a New Genoa

2013-02-24 Thread Josh Muckley
I agree about the Genoa size. I would think that a 135 would be plenty big. I can only sail my full 155 during light wind (10kts max) On very rare occasions have I ever had a need to furl my 155 to less than 100. When I do, it is only to help pull the nose around during a tack. The sail is compl

Re: Stus-List Considering a New Genoa - furler?

2013-02-24 Thread dwight veinot
Right, the Harken roller furler is the real deal. I have a Doyle 135 crosscut Dacron with foam luff on a harken furler.great combo and all round headsail.works good furled to 110 and is quite good to weather in air down to 8-10 apparent on my 35 MKII. Even better, sometimes the main stays packed

Re: Stus-List Considering a New Genoa

2013-02-24 Thread Andrew Burton
Dave, I can't wait! 59 days, 18.75 hours til Peregrine gets launched! Not much longer until my first sail with her. Andy C&C 40 Peregrine On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 12:09 PM, David Risch wrote: > Andrew, > > Our boat is so easily driven a 110 is fine. In fact up here in Buzzards > Bay (with our

Re: Stus-List Considering a New Genoa - furler?

2013-02-24 Thread Dennis C.
Those considering moving to a more cruise oriented mode, Do you have a roller furler?  IMHO, a furler is the absolute best option for cruising.  I'd pop for a furler over a smaller sail any time.  Add a tape drive or foam luff genoa and you're good to go. When I bought Touche', the first thing

Re: Stus-List Considering a New Genoa

2013-02-24 Thread David Risch
Andrew, Our boat is so easily driven a 110 is fine. In fact up here in Buzzards Bay (with our smokin' southwester wind machine) I regularly just sail with the 110. She still does 7+knots and when I am singlehanding it is obviously much easier to handle. David F. Risch 1981 40-2 (401) 4

Re: Stus-List C&C 25 shoal draft keel

2013-02-24 Thread David Blair
That pic is at our yacht club so I may be able to find more information if desired. Not familiar with the boat myself but must be a RVYC member. Ciao From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Mark G Sent: February-23-13 5:58 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-L

Re: Stus-List Considering a New Genoa

2013-02-24 Thread Josh Muckley
Quantum is the local loft where I live. I checked with a discount place and they beat quantum by almost $2k. Well I went back to quantum with the competition's spec sheet and had them counter. They identified quite a few places to cut corners and were able to come within $200-$300. A large majo

Re: Stus-List Considering a New Genoa

2013-02-24 Thread Rich Knowles
I'm in the process of purchasing a RF110 to replace my old RF135. Much less work with minimal loss of speed in anything but the lightest of air. Any smaller would reduce the slot size too much. Rich Knowles Indigo. LF38 Halifax On 2013-02-24, at 12:41, Dave Godwin wrote: I'm interested in th

Re: Stus-List Considering a New Genoa

2013-02-24 Thread Dave Godwin
I'm interested in this discussion and other's thoughts and experiences also. We currently have a laminate 140% for our boat that we've used for years but we often sailed/cruised with our old racing crewmates so dragging that across the decks was not a big deal. Now that my wife and I cruise by o

Re: Stus-List Sailmakers

2013-02-24 Thread william striegel
anything wrong w a cross cut main for my C&C 34? using challenge 7.62? vs a tri-radial from north using nordac radian? or is tri-radial overkill. Bill Striegel C&C 34, #419 On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 8:18 AM, Jim Aridas wrote: > Chuck, > No Ron did not put me up to it. Funny how small the sailing

Re: Stus-List Considering a New Genoa

2013-02-24 Thread Andrew Burton
Just curious why you'd want such a huge sail, Edd. Your boat is so easily-driven, I would have thought you could easily make do with a 135...even in the vacuum called Long Island Sound. I'm thinking/hoping that I may be able to make do with a 110 here in Newport. We are just talking about cruising,

Re: Stus-List Considering a New Genoa

2013-02-24 Thread Joel Aronson
I've got a rolly 135. So far can't beat it! Joel Aronson On Feb 24, 2013, at 10:13 AM, Edd Schillay wrote: > All, > > I'm in the market for a new cruising 150-155% genoa for my C&C 37+. I've > received some quotes from North and Quantum, but wanted to know if anyone on > the list has had any

Re: Stus-List Considering a New Genoa

2013-02-24 Thread kirk sneddon
I bought my cruising main and a #2 jib after I emptied my pockets buying the boat made by Rolly Tasker (National Sail Supply) The sailcloth was good quality. The cut and stitching well done. For the price, a good value. For quality racing sails, considering customer support (quality work and quic

Re: Stus-List Newport Accommodations

2013-02-24 Thread Harry Hallgring
I'll bring the beer! Harry Sent from my iPhone On Feb 24, 2013, at 10:08 AM, Steve Sharkey wrote: > Great, thanks! > > Steve Sharkey > > On Feb 24, 2013, at 9:58 AM, Andrew Burton wrote: > >> Steve, I found a mooring for rent in Newport for $1500; good price, if >> you're still in the mar

Stus-List Considering a New Genoa

2013-02-24 Thread Edd Schillay
All, I'm in the market for a new cruising 150-155% genoa for my C&C 37+. I've received some quotes from North and Quantum, but wanted to know if anyone on the list has had any experience, good or bad, with one of the "discount" sailmakers out there like FX, National, Far East, etc. I don't do

Re: Stus-List Newport Accommodations

2013-02-24 Thread Steve Sharkey
Great, thanks! Steve Sharkey On Feb 24, 2013, at 9:58 AM, Andrew Burton wrote: > Steve, I found a mooring for rent in Newport for $1500; good price, if you're > still in the market. > http://providence.craigslist.org/boa/3639061348.html > Good luck > Andy > C&C 40 > Peregrine > > Andrew Burt

Re: Stus-List Newport Accommodations

2013-02-24 Thread Andrew Burton
Steve, I found a mooring for rent in Newport for $1500; good price, if you're still in the market. http://providence.craigslist.org/boa/3639061348.html Good luck Andy C&C 40 Peregrine Andrew Burton 61 W Narragansett Newport, RI USA02840 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservice

Re: Stus-List Sailmakers

2013-02-24 Thread Jim Aridas
Chuck, No Ron did not put me up to it. Funny how small the sailing world is. He is a great guy btw. I have known him for humm... Wow since 1988 when I got my first "big " sail boat (28 Columbia ). I have raced many times with him over the years. Really knows his stuff. Actually he sold C&C boats