Ditto.  There are so many considerations the non-sailmaker boat owner might not 
consider.

One big consideration is the slot.  The genoa and main need to work together.  
If a sailmaker is really good, he'll hoist and look at the "other" sail, the 
one you're not buying.  For instance, if you have a main with a deep draft 
carried aft in the sail, you wouldn't want to buy a big genoa with a fairly 
flat exit.  It might constrict the slot and slow the boat down.  Other 
considerations are:

Spreader patches
Stanchion patches
Track location (yours might not be optimal)
Local weather and wave conditions
Screwy little configurations at tack and/or clew

I always deal local.  I buy from either Ullman or North.  The sailmaker 
measures, installs, sails or sometimes races with us.  Note: Touche' has never 
lost a race with a sailmaker onboard.  :)

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA





>________________________________
> From: "honeys...@aol.com" <honeys...@aol.com>
>To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
>Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 12:13 PM
>Subject: Stus-List  Sails & Sailmakers
> 
>
>We have owned our C&C 39 TM #39069-74 since Dec of 1975 and took 
delivery of her in Savannah on 4 Feb 1976. Since then we have purchased race 
& cruising sails from, Fraker (original suit built for the PO/C&C), 
North/Newport, North/San Diego, Gleason, Quantum, Dave Calvert & now UK 
Halsey's Charleston, SC loft and after all of these years and the many 
thousands 
of hard earned dollars spent, I have come to the conclusion that you get 
exactly what you pay for when buying sails. I can honestly say that of all the 
lofts that I have worked with UK's Charleston loft provided the best service 
and 
other than Gleason/Hilton Head & the first suit purchased 
from North/Newport sails were the only folks to offer (and actually show 
up) to personally measure the boat as well as deliver the sails and insist 
on sailing the boat so that they could see the sails working and tweak as 
necessary. The UK sails are not cheap, but again at the end of the day you 
only get what you pay for...Just my opinion.
> 
>Jack Fitzgerald
>HONEY
>US12788
>Savannah
> 
>In a message dated 2/24/2013 12:36:40 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
muckl...@gmail.com writes:
>Just had my main made by Quantum with ~8.4 Challenge sail  cloth...cross cut.
>>Josh Muckley
>>S/V Sea Hawk
>>1989 C&C 37+
>>-- 
>>Want to email me privately?  Check out:  
>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Privacy_Guard
>>Then 
  get my public key at:
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>>On Feb 24, 2013 11:30 AM, "william striegel" <wstrie...@cableone.net> wrote:
>>
>>anything wrong w a cross cut main for my C&C 34? using  challenge 7.62? vs a 
>>tri-radial from north using nordac radian? or is  tri-radial overkill. 
>>>
>>>
>>>Bill Striegel
>>>C&C 34, #419
>>>
>>>
>>>On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 8:18 AM, Jim Aridas <jarid...@msn.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Chuck,
>>>>No Ron did not put me up to it. Funny how small the sailing world is.  He 
>>>>is a great guy btw. I have known him for humm... Wow since 1988 when I  got 
>>>>my first "big " sail boat (28 Columbia ).
>>>>I have raced many times with him over the years. Really knows his  stuff. 
>>>>Actually he sold C&C boats before I knew him! 
>>>>     I am going with 3DL for a 155% ,replacing a  previous north sail,this 
>>>>time with taffeta on one side to hold up better.  They have great discounts 
>>>>on 3DL till mar 1st. I am also ordering a #2  (135%) just haven't decided 
>>>>on material. Might just go with a norlam  material . Its about a 1k 
>>>>difference and I don't think a performance  difference I will notice.
>>>>     Mainsails... My boat's sail plan has a tall  skinny main which was the 
>>>>design of the time. I believe the 34R is similar  as well. Ron's advice, 
>>>>when he designed my main, was to go with norlam. He  felt the main does not 
>>>>really drive the boat and 3DL would just be  overkill. After 5 seasons , 
>>>>the main still performs well,held its shape,  and looks good. Now if you 
>>>>had your mind set on 3DL don't let me sway your  decision. I had a 3DL on 
>>>>my Pearson 30 and loved it. 
>>>>     The nice part of the norlam is its easier to  flake on the boom. Or 
>>>>should I say I'm easier on my crew with the norlam  at flaking time!
>>>>     Chuck, feel free to drop my name to Ron when you  speak again. I look 
>>>>forward to seeing you in AC. Also my club Metedeconk  River YC is on board 
>>>>this year to help sponsor . Also my good friend Jim  Walsh will be PRO. He 
>>>>runs a great race!
>>>>Jim Aridas 
>>>>Galaxy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Sent from my iPad
>>>>
>>>>On Feb 23, 2013, at 6:20 PM, Chuck S <cscheaf...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Congratulations!!  
>>>>>Did Ron Laneve from North Sails ask you to mention that to 
        me?
>>>>>I'm considering a new mainsail myself, and we talked just 
        yesterday.
>>>>>Are you ordering 3DL?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Chuck
>>>>>Resolute
>>>>>1990 
        C&C 34R
>>>>>Atlantic City, NJ
>>>>>
>>>>>________________________________
>>>>> From: "Jim Aridas" <jarid...@msn.com>
>>>>>To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>>>>Cc: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>>>>Sent: Saturday,  February 23, 2013 5:44:03 PM
>>>>>Subject: Re: Stus-List Economic  justification for owning a boat
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Oh in staying with the thread....
>>>>> Dropping  $9000 at the local North loft on Monday.
>>>>>Yes Chuck we are crazy! 
>>>>>Jim
>>>>>Galaxy
>>>>>Brielle, NJ
>>>>>Btw just tooling up for AC race week!
>>>>>
>>>>>Sent from my iPad
>>>>>
>>>>>On Feb 23, 2013, at 12:52 PM, Ed Dooley <edoo...@madriver.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I look at it being cheaper than marriage counseling.
>>>>>>And luckily here on Lake Champlain in Vermont you can put a  mooring in
>>>>>>wherever you want for free. It's regulated by your access, so our  
>>>>>>mooring is in Converse Bay in Charlotte, which has a state  
>>>>>>fishing/boating access ramp. We're allowed to park in the lot  overnight, 
>>>>>>and we have their one dock to tie up the dinghy when we  need to. Moslt 
>>>>>>of our sailing friends that aren't near us or in the 2  nearby marinas 
>>>>>>moor at Kingsland Bay state park where they're allowed  to keep their 
>>>>>>dinghies on shore at the park.
>>>>>>Ed
>>>>>>
>>>>>>On Feb 22, 2013, at 6:59 PM, Chuck S <cscheaf...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Agree, it's  expensive just owning a boat.  We're all crazy!  
>>>>>>>But 
            in a good way somehow?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Chuck
>>>>>>>Resolute
>>>>>>>1990 
            C&C 34R
>>>>>>>Atlantic City, NJ
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>________________________________
>>>>>>> From: "Della Barba, Joe" <joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov>
>>>>>>>To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>>>>>>Sent: Friday,  February 22, 2013 9:22:37 AM
>>>>>>>Subject: Re: Stus-List  Economic justification for owning a boat
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I pay $3,000/yr just 
            for my slip. A lot of cruises are a lot less than that. Not that I 
            would go on one for free - just sayin'
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Joe Della 
            Barba
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of  
>>>>>>>OldSteveH
>>>>>>>Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 8:28 AM
>>>>>>>To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>>>>>>Subject: Re: Stus-List 
            Economic justification for owning a boat
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Agree except for the 
            costs of cruises.
>>>>>>>I'm fairly sure the cost of maintaining, 
            improving, slipping and hauling my boat annually is about 
equivalent 
            to one person on one decent cruise (incl airfare).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>BTW John, 
            what is your hull#. Mine is #442.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Steve 
            Hood
>>>>>>>S/V Diamond Girl
>>>>>>>C&C 34
>>>>>>>Lions Head 
            ON
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>------------------------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Message: 
            16
>>>>>>>Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 07:09:30 -0500
>>>>>>>From: "John and 
            Maryann Read" <johnpr...@comcast.net>
>>>>>>>To: <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>>>>>>>Subject: Re: 
            Stus-List Economic justification for owning a boat
>>>>>>>Message-ID: 
            <00a501ce10f5$78d1a440$6a74ecc0$@net>
>>>>>>>Content-Type: 
            text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Well and truly said 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>John and 
            Maryann
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Legacy III
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>1982 C&C 34
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Noank, 
            CT
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of  
>>>>>>>Della Barba, Joe
>>>>>>>Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 7:50 AM
>>>>>>>To: 
            Dennis C.; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>>>>>>Subject: Re: Stus-List 
            Economic justification for owning a boat
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>You 
            wake up, quietly get in the dinghy with the dogs, push off and 
drift 
            50 feet away before starting the outboard, and head to shore. The 
            dogs pee while you get the morning paper and some coffee from the 
            coffee shop.
>>>>>>>Heading back out to the mooring field with the 
            morning sun flooding the anchorage with an orange glow you gently 
            climb back aboard to surprise your still sleeping wife with the 
            treats from shore and think you wouldn?t be anywhere else for ANY 
            amount of money. Or the sane people realize they could go on a 
            cruise ship or other expensive vacation two or three times a year 
            for what it costs to run the boat. So we the not-quite-right sail 
on 
            and the sheeple get herded here and there on the latest discount 
            tour to some tourist hell.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Joe Della 
            Barba
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Coquina
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>C&C 35 MK I
>>>>>>>
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