Ditto. There are so many considerations the non-sailmaker boat owner might not
consider.
One big consideration is the slot. The genoa and main need to work together.
If a sailmaker is really good, he'll hoist and look at the "other" sail, the
one you're not buying. For instance, if you have a main with a deep draft
carried aft in the sail, you wouldn't want to buy a big genoa with a fairly
flat exit. It might constrict the slot and slow the boat down. Other
considerations are:
Spreader patches
Stanchion patches
Track location (yours might not be optimal)
Local weather and wave conditions
Screwy little configurations at tack and/or clew
I always deal local. I buy from either Ullman or North. The sailmaker
measures, installs, sails or sometimes races with us. Note: Touche' has never
lost a race with a sailmaker onboard. :)
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
>________________________________
> From: "honeys...@aol.com" <honeys...@aol.com>
>To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 12:13 PM
>Subject: Stus-List Sails & Sailmakers
>
>
>We have owned our C&C 39 TM #39069-74 since Dec of 1975 and took
delivery of her in Savannah on 4 Feb 1976. Since then we have purchased race
& cruising sails from, Fraker (original suit built for the PO/C&C),
North/Newport, North/San Diego, Gleason, Quantum, Dave Calvert & now UK
Halsey's Charleston, SC loft and after all of these years and the many
thousands
of hard earned dollars spent, I have come to the conclusion that you get
exactly what you pay for when buying sails. I can honestly say that of all the
lofts that I have worked with UK's Charleston loft provided the best service
and
other than Gleason/Hilton Head & the first suit purchased
from North/Newport sails were the only folks to offer (and actually show
up) to personally measure the boat as well as deliver the sails and insist
on sailing the boat so that they could see the sails working and tweak as
necessary. The UK sails are not cheap, but again at the end of the day you
only get what you pay for...Just my opinion.
>
>Jack Fitzgerald
>HONEY
>US12788
>Savannah
>
>In a message dated 2/24/2013 12:36:40 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
muckl...@gmail.com writes:
>Just had my main made by Quantum with ~8.4 Challenge sail cloth...cross cut.
>>Josh Muckley
>>S/V Sea Hawk
>>1989 C&C 37+
>>--
>>Want to email me privately? Check out:
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>>On Feb 24, 2013 11:30 AM, "william striegel" <wstrie...@cableone.net> wrote:
>>
>>anything wrong w a cross cut main for my C&C 34? using challenge 7.62? vs a
>>tri-radial from north using nordac radian? or is tri-radial overkill.
>>>
>>>
>>>Bill Striegel
>>>C&C 34, #419
>>>
>>>
>>>On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 8:18 AM, Jim Aridas <jarid...@msn.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Chuck,
>>>>No Ron did not put me up to it. Funny how small the sailing world is. He
>>>>is a great guy btw. I have known him for humm... Wow since 1988 when I got
>>>>my first "big " sail boat (28 Columbia ).
>>>>I have raced many times with him over the years. Really knows his stuff.
>>>>Actually he sold C&C boats before I knew him!
>>>> I am going with 3DL for a 155% ,replacing a previous north sail,this
>>>>time with taffeta on one side to hold up better. They have great discounts
>>>>on 3DL till mar 1st. I am also ordering a #2 (135%) just haven't decided
>>>>on material. Might just go with a norlam material . Its about a 1k
>>>>difference and I don't think a performance difference I will notice.
>>>> Mainsails... My boat's sail plan has a tall skinny main which was the
>>>>design of the time. I believe the 34R is similar as well. Ron's advice,
>>>>when he designed my main, was to go with norlam. He felt the main does not
>>>>really drive the boat and 3DL would just be overkill. After 5 seasons ,
>>>>the main still performs well,held its shape, and looks good. Now if you
>>>>had your mind set on 3DL don't let me sway your decision. I had a 3DL on
>>>>my Pearson 30 and loved it.
>>>> The nice part of the norlam is its easier to flake on the boom. Or
>>>>should I say I'm easier on my crew with the norlam at flaking time!
>>>> Chuck, feel free to drop my name to Ron when you speak again. I look
>>>>forward to seeing you in AC. Also my club Metedeconk River YC is on board
>>>>this year to help sponsor . Also my good friend Jim Walsh will be PRO. He
>>>>runs a great race!
>>>>Jim Aridas
>>>>Galaxy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Sent from my iPad
>>>>
>>>>On Feb 23, 2013, at 6:20 PM, Chuck S <cscheaf...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Congratulations!!
>>>>>Did Ron Laneve from North Sails ask you to mention that to
me?
>>>>>I'm considering a new mainsail myself, and we talked just
yesterday.
>>>>>Are you ordering 3DL?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Chuck
>>>>>Resolute
>>>>>1990
C&C 34R
>>>>>Atlantic City, NJ
>>>>>
>>>>>________________________________
>>>>> From: "Jim Aridas" <jarid...@msn.com>
>>>>>To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>>>>Cc: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>>>>Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 5:44:03 PM
>>>>>Subject: Re: Stus-List Economic justification for owning a boat
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Oh in staying with the thread....
>>>>> Dropping $9000 at the local North loft on Monday.
>>>>>Yes Chuck we are crazy!
>>>>>Jim
>>>>>Galaxy
>>>>>Brielle, NJ
>>>>>Btw just tooling up for AC race week!
>>>>>
>>>>>Sent from my iPad
>>>>>
>>>>>On Feb 23, 2013, at 12:52 PM, Ed Dooley <edoo...@madriver.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I look at it being cheaper than marriage counseling.
>>>>>>And luckily here on Lake Champlain in Vermont you can put a mooring in
>>>>>>wherever you want for free. It's regulated by your access, so our
>>>>>>mooring is in Converse Bay in Charlotte, which has a state
>>>>>>fishing/boating access ramp. We're allowed to park in the lot overnight,
>>>>>>and we have their one dock to tie up the dinghy when we need to. Moslt
>>>>>>of our sailing friends that aren't near us or in the 2 nearby marinas
>>>>>>moor at Kingsland Bay state park where they're allowed to keep their
>>>>>>dinghies on shore at the park.
>>>>>>Ed
>>>>>>
>>>>>>On Feb 22, 2013, at 6:59 PM, Chuck S <cscheaf...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Agree, it's expensive just owning a boat. We're all crazy!
>>>>>>>But
in a good way somehow?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Chuck
>>>>>>>Resolute
>>>>>>>1990
C&C 34R
>>>>>>>Atlantic City, NJ
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>________________________________
>>>>>>> From: "Della Barba, Joe" <joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov>
>>>>>>>To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>>>>>>Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 9:22:37 AM
>>>>>>>Subject: Re: Stus-List Economic justification for owning a boat
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I pay $3,000/yr just
for my slip. A lot of cruises are a lot less than that. Not that I
would go on one for free - just sayin'
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Joe Della
Barba
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of
>>>>>>>OldSteveH
>>>>>>>Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 8:28 AM
>>>>>>>To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>>>>>>Subject: Re: Stus-List
Economic justification for owning a boat
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Agree except for the
costs of cruises.
>>>>>>>I'm fairly sure the cost of maintaining,
improving, slipping and hauling my boat annually is about
equivalent
to one person on one decent cruise (incl airfare).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>BTW John,
what is your hull#. Mine is #442.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Steve
Hood
>>>>>>>S/V Diamond Girl
>>>>>>>C&C 34
>>>>>>>Lions Head
ON
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>------------------------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Message:
16
>>>>>>>Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 07:09:30 -0500
>>>>>>>From: "John and
Maryann Read" <johnpr...@comcast.net>
>>>>>>>To: <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>>>>>>>Subject: Re:
Stus-List Economic justification for owning a boat
>>>>>>>Message-ID:
<00a501ce10f5$78d1a440$6a74ecc0$@net>
>>>>>>>Content-Type:
text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Well and truly said
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>John and
Maryann
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Legacy III
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>1982 C&C 34
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Noank,
CT
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of
>>>>>>>Della Barba, Joe
>>>>>>>Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 7:50 AM
>>>>>>>To:
Dennis C.; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>>>>>>Subject: Re: Stus-List
Economic justification for owning a boat
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>You
wake up, quietly get in the dinghy with the dogs, push off and
drift
50 feet away before starting the outboard, and head to shore. The
dogs pee while you get the morning paper and some coffee from the
coffee shop.
>>>>>>>Heading back out to the mooring field with the
morning sun flooding the anchorage with an orange glow you gently
climb back aboard to surprise your still sleeping wife with the
treats from shore and think you wouldn?t be anywhere else for ANY
amount of money. Or the sane people realize they could go on a
cruise ship or other expensive vacation two or three times a year
for what it costs to run the boat. So we the not-quite-right sail
on
and the sheeple get herded here and there on the latest discount
tour to some tourist hell.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Joe Della
Barba
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Coquina
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>C&C 35 MK I
>>>>>>>
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