Nice to see that this issue actually exists (but not so nice for those that
experience it for sure!). This summer we put in an offer on a C&C 30-1 and
discovered during the survey the potential issues with the mast step. This one
wasn’t too bad yet but the bulkhead was heaved-up off the floor pa
I have done the fix (hope so) on my mast step. What you have under the 8x20
block at sole level (really should be about half an inch above) is three cross
members which span the rather deep bilge. They are made of two pieces of 3/4
ply glued or screwed together (each) and are curved to match the
In May 2006, on the delivery of "Dream Girl", C&C 30 Mk I # 19(?) from
Carabelle, FL to New Orleans after her purchase, we had the opportunity for our
first sail as we crossed Mobile Bay. The mast step collapsed after about 30
minutes. I was fortunate that the collapse occurred in Mobile Bay as
The sharks are circling . . . .
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Original message
From: Chuck S
Date: 12/17/2012 10:51 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Transitioning from Racing to Cruising?
Lighten the bow! Send me Dave the bowman!!
Chuck
Resol
Lighten the bow! Send me Dave the bowman!!
Chuck
Resolute
1990 C&C 34R
Atlantic City, NJ
- Original Message -
From: "Edd Schillay"
To: j...@dellabarba.com, cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 8:40:08 PM
Subject: Re: Stus-List Transitioning from Racing to Cru
Well, consider the big picture: What is Racing? What is Cruising?
Larry Ellison is racing, but I think he's cruising...
I would give you one bit of advice. Rig the boat for single-handing.
Crew is fine, but when push comes to shove it's your boat and if you
need to find crew to sail your bo
Friend of mine had a Pearson 365 ketch with 2 Bose 101's mounted on the mizzen
shooting straight down into the cockpit. Nice.
I love Bose speakers. I have a pair of Bose 901 Series 1 speakers in the
living room and a pair of 101's for the patio. Great sound.
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandev
This last year I went in the opposite direction. I only raced a couple
times since we got the boat and have been slowly getting it in shape.
Last year was my first full season of racing, recruiting crew, the whole
nine yards. Recruiting sucks, but the races were a blast. So I put up with
i
I replaced my mast step on my old 1970 30MKI. I don't think you can do it
without pulling the stick. If memory serves me, it's not a hard job but
it's labor intensive and you are going to have to get your arm down there
pretty deep and far back to get the old wood out and re- glass the new
steps
Jacking up the mast is doable. Pulling the mast is safer and offers other
benefits I'll explain later. I know someone who had to replace the deck plate
for his deck stepped mast and jacked the mast up using a car jack under the
boom gooseneck fitting. He managed to loosen the shrouds, headstay a
Rage, rage against the dying of the breeze.
Do not go gently into that downwind mark.
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 9:01 PM, Rich Knowles wrote:
> This whole conversation smacks of ageing gracefully... We are all
> fortunate indeed!
>
>
> Rich Knowles
> Indigo. LF38
> Halifax
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>
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This whole conversation smacks of ageing gracefully... We are all fortunate
indeed!
Rich Knowles
Indigo. LF38
Halifax
On 2012-12-17, at 21:54, "John and Maryann Read" wrote:
Edd and all
We are fully involved in this process. Have raced very competitively for many
years with shelves of tro
Edd and all
We are fully involved in this process. Have raced very competitively for
many years with shelves of trophies to attest to the many good times we had.
Have made many good friends over the years and enjoyed many a good time. We
have a well found, well equipped and well performing b
Around seven years ago, after getting the seven year itch with my
Pearson-26, I moved up to Ox, a 33-1. Mostly single-handed beercan and ad
hoc, one-on-one racing with the Pearson really improved my sailing skills.
I never made the "step up to the next level" with the 33-1. Ox was and
still is a
All,
I think Joe's hitting the nail right in the head.
When the Enterprise is race-ready, the water tanks are empty, there are two
spinnakers in the V-berth and the dodger/bimini, and their frames, sit in the
garage.
When I go away for the weekend on a cruise, it's a crazy time loading up th
Well, really you need Bose speakers. To get the best sound, you should
install outriggers on your sailboat, with the speakers mounted about
halfway up.
All jokes aside...
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Joe, I can remember racing at CRYC in the '70's in I 14's and won in Laser 28's
One Design on the Race over and back. Reed Creek is one of my favorite
anchorages now that I just cruise with my wife. I keep telling her we can race
over and back, just a cruise, but she hates the starts. Maybe next
Joe,
First and foremost, BEFORE you do anything, measure EVERYTHING! In particular,
measure the elevation of the existing mast step. Even though it has sagged,
you will need to have a good idea where to build it to.
I have done minor work under the mast by jacking it up. It's not for the fai
BTW - One of the things that has changed is the family atmosphere around
racing. I basically grew up racing and from age 7 on there were kids my age
on the other boats. That has changed for the most part.
BUT WAIT!
The Corsica River Yacht Club (my club wink wink) has a great annual regatta
with ki
I did this a long time ago. The day has passed when a boat can be kept in
competitive racing trim and go cruising in comfort. When I was a kid,
Coquina could literally come back from a 2 week cruise on Friday night and
be on the line Saturday morning and win silver.
Now...not so much.
So I race
Having raced all my life starting with Opti's, Thistles and several keel
boats I, at age 70, cannot quit. While I still have keel boat that I use
mainly for cruising and a few fun races, I now do my main racing one design
on a Cal 20 that I own with 2 life long buddies. We have 45 Cals in the
fle
I'd suggest eating the money for a crane or boom truck and hauling the mast.
One word: Safety. Also much easier to do a good job without the stump in the
way. It will also give you an opportunity to do a thorough inspection, cleaning
and lubrication of the entire mast, stays and shrouds and mast
Howdy Listers,
I am new to the list and the new owner of a 1975 30 Mk 1. Overall she is in
decent shape with a fwc A4 that runs well. Aside from needing major
cleaning/polishing and lots of minor fixit stuff, she has one big ugly
problem, the mast step is sagging and needs to be rebuilt. I
Edd,
Stopped around the bouys racing a few years back for a bunch of reasons;
- My racing son and cruising kids have moved on,
- With 5 kids in various stages of college we needed to re-set monetarty
priorities,
- I was tired of switching out mains etc. and prepping the boat
- The boat was getti
When installing new 6' long windows on Calypso 10 years ago it was recommended
to have several sections to allow for expansion and contraction stress. We
have 1/8th inch of separation between 24" sections. I don't recall the exact
material description but cast acrylic sound familiar.
Martin
C
Calypso gets cruised and raced, mostly short handed partly because of crew
organization issues. That plus the after 35 years of competitive offshore and
inshore racing (mostly on OPBs) I was disenchanted with the direction of
competitive racing was headed, especially the courses, ISAF, and sea l
Edd:
I used a piece of 1' x 6' x 9mm cast acrylic, # 126 bronze for one window. The
bronze is dark enough for privacy (looking in), but light enough for good
visibility looking out.
Alan Bergen
C&C 35 Mk III Thirsty
Rose City YC
Portland, OR
- Original Message -
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I mounted a pair of speakers (West Marine flush mount) in the access ports
under the helm seat. The speakers were smaller diameter than the access port
cutouts. I removed the access port mounting rings, and replaced them with
adapter rings which I made from acrylic. I then mounted the speakers t
I second the cast acrylic. The windows were about $200 each cut to size (I
think).
You might see if Interstate Plastics has a shop near you.
Joel
35/3
The Office
Annapolis
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 5:13 PM, Frederick G Street wrote:
> One 4' x 8' sheet of 3/8" thick CAST acrylic (NOT extruded),
Hi Edd,
I have the same problem finding crew. I have the boat prepped. Guys come out
and we do well and everyone seems to enjoy the experience. But there's not
enough races here to keep their interest, and momentum. OCYC announced Sat they
will schedule only 4 Saturday regattas next summer. Th
I'm in agreement with Dennis. I do both. This was the program for this year.
The ex-Admiral and her husband (we share the boat - I manage it) have a crew
(she drives - pretty well) and they do the Wednesday Night races (about 20 each
year). I use the C&C for five Jib and Main races and three fro
I'll go down and measure mine tomorrow. Went today and found they had shrink
wrapped the boat, and then installed the door over the wrap - have to take
scissors down tomorrow. It's only a block away.
Gary
1980 30-1 #593
- Original Message -
From: Nate Flesness
To: cnc-list@cnc-li
Edd, and others
Racing and cruising are NOT mutually exclusive. We've both raced and cruised
Touche' since purchase in 1999. We took a hiatus from racing for 3-4 years and
are now back rebuilding our race program but to a much more relaxed
philosophy. We are racing with a local sailing group
One 4' x 8' sheet of 3/8" thick CAST acrylic (NOT extruded), in a pleasing
bronze color should do you. A plastics house will probably sell to you by the
square foot; then you only need to buy what you need. They can also cut &
route to your shape, and flame-polish the cut edges to avoid premat
I'm going through the same thought process this year.
Where I lived before, I was lucky enough to be able to pull together a crew
from among friends and we grew to be a pretty good team. We relocated last
year and I started building a crew from scratch where we didn't know
anyone. We won two reg
Edd. I did that about 6 years ago. Simply launched in the spring and didn't go
racing any more. I found a whole different group at the club to spend time
with, new places to go and a level of peace not having to deal with doggone
handicap systems. Absolutely nothing bad happened to me! Amazing:)
Funny timing for me, Ed. Just sold my wonderful J/80 and have my other race
boat up for sale. As of last week, I'm the proud owner of a C&C 40 and plan
to pretty much cruise it exclusively...maybe the odd day race around
Conanicut Island but that's about it. I'm looking forward to spending a lot
of
Edd
I cannot speak for others but decided to not only give up racing due to
crew issues, ect (never really got into cruising) but sailing as well. After
36 years of owning the same boat decided to sell our C&C 39TM as the kids
are grown, gone and have no interest in owning a big boat nor in
Listers,
Though I thought this day would never come (and I'm not saying it has
yet), but given the difficulties in lining up crew, keeping them committed on a
regular basis, and the costs, I'd like to know people's experiences in
transitioning from racing their C&C to a life of cruising
Listers,
I know there's a lot of options for windows material out there. Does
anyone have a specific recommendation? I want something dark, durable, thin
enough to go around a curve, and comes in very long sheets as the front windows
are super long.
All the best,
I have a Logitech 5.1 speaker system for my PC. I use two of the smaller
speakers (which have long cables) on the boat. Sound good to my tin ears -
in the cockpit or inside.
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Z-640-Speaker-Surround-System/dp/B6HYPD
Bob M
Ox 33-1
Jax, FL
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On Calypso we have enclosed speakers that hang from the push pit rail with long
cables and connectors. I leave the speakers below (or off the boat when
racing) to prevent weather or physical damage. The connectors are out of the
way below the helmsman seat trim and stay mostly dry.
The big is
A quick note on this
We were told the original ones had the threaded rod undersized. Will be
replaces with larger sized threaded rod cold welded on to existing rod
and open turnbuckles. I may have oversimplifed it but that is basically
it.
Work to be done by North Sails Atlantic Rigging Shop
Probably best to wait to confirm; but on my 1981 30mkI, they were the 6"
plates. A little like the "monkey trap"; you could get your hand in, but if
you closed your hand around anything, you couldn't get it back out again… :^)
Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- o
I second what Rich said;On my boat we were looking for a place to mount new
speakers and couldn't find a suitable area for one reason or another, so we
just put then in the inspection port openings with extra long wires so that if
we needed to get back in we could just take them out and do w
Nate: I'd highly recommend settling for a gift certificate and waiting until
you can do the measurement on site when the snow is gone, or get someone
local to measure and take pictures. There is no guarantee that any other
30-1 is identical to yours.
Rich Knowles
INDIGO - LF38
Halifax, NS
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