[clug-talk] Reply to Shawn - and the rest

2014-04-06 Thread R Edwards
Reply to Shawn, (sorry, decided to leave off diplomatic and go for blunt - very long list) Ron, it seems you have a vision for CLUG. That's all that is needed at times. A vision can sometimes be a magical thing that provides razor like focus, and attract others. As a past Prez, I have seen t

[clug-talk] elections and stuff.

2014-04-06 Thread Bogi
Hi all. Let's discus the ideas of how to go forward, and make an impression. We still have options, this need not be the end. I already see good ideas on the list, and people eager for action. It seems we have a severe shortage of t2 members, i will look into that problem, and see if there is

Re: [clug-talk] Reply to Shawn - and the rest

2014-04-06 Thread Gustin Johnson
I don't think anyone has the "goal" of destroying the group, in fact most of what you describe are merely symptoms of disorganization and perhaps a lack of support or interest. I see no malice here at all. As for what you consider "wasting" your time, all I will say is that that you either want

[clug-talk] difficulty

2014-04-06 Thread R Edwards
For Gustin; What are you suggesting sir, that I cannot read, or that I am lying? If I said that I cannot see an email address in the message, then that is what was taking place sir. Is there a problem with that? I was not really suggesting that there was malice on the part of the leadership.

Re: [clug-talk] Reply to Shawn - and the rest

2014-04-06 Thread Bogi
Agreed Gustin, I don't think there is malice or intent here, people are merely busy struggling with their lives. Cheers Sam On April 6, 2014 Sunday 11:53:27 Gustin Johnson wrote: > I don't think anyone has the "goal" of destroying the group, in fact most > of what you describe are merely sympto

[clug-talk] touchy

2014-04-06 Thread R Edwards
for Gustin...sorry if I am a bit touchy ...five hours sleep in the last 40 isn't helping my concern I guess is instead of commenting on my email header, shouldn't someone be wondering why, when a secretary was present, could membership fees not be paid? Ron

[clug-talk] suggest

2014-04-06 Thread R Edwards
again, I am sorry ... not suggesting folks should be concentrating on what is wrong but if your trying to go ahead, things that were not right should be observed so that the same problems were not going to exist again Ron ___ clug-talk mailing list cl

[clug-talk] Kin

2014-04-06 Thread R Edwards
Ultimately, there are two options (if the opportunity still existed) (1) change to clug.org, re-do the bylaws to better suit and wait until you could become a 'legal entity' or a non-profit. Can't touch the current budget or anything else associated with clug.ca though. (2) stay with clug.ca (

[clug-talk] Meeting with Kin

2014-04-06 Thread R Edwards
When I contacted Kin I had mentioned the prospect of discussing the ideas for the future of the group so he may be expecting that as well, not sure ... but I think the most important issue first is getting membership upgrades I will suggest 7pm on some evening soon. His message indicates th

[clug-talk] reasons for missing meetings

2014-04-06 Thread R Edwards
Still trying to stay awake here . for the record, after schedule conflicts, the two biggest issues cited for missing or no longer attending were (a) getting no value out of the meeting and (b) not being able to input suggestions or ideas. And 'b' is the biggest problem I saw in the bylaws,

Re: [clug-talk] reasons for missing meetings My 2 cents

2014-04-06 Thread Terrell Larson
I have no knowledge of the bylaws issue. IMHO they should be easy to change. All the club needs is at least a 2/3 majority vote. So the club should organise a change to the charter and put it forth to the membership and lets see. Now I have been to CLUG meetings and I consider what the club doe

[clug-talk] further and reply

2014-04-06 Thread R Edwards
First for Terrell, In one way, your right, it is not hard to change them. Depending upon the change, it may not be hard to make it work in the bylaws either but also depending upon what is desired, five or six other items may have to be changed also and it all has to work together as a unified

[clug-talk] also on bylaws

2014-04-06 Thread R Edwards
Sorry ... one other thing comes to mind about changes in the bylaws when a group is applying for non-profit status, the intended bylaws must be presented to them and they must be approved before that status is granted. I am not positive but I believe that extensive changes may also be gover

Re: [clug-talk] Meeting with Kin

2014-04-06 Thread Bogi
Ok, since you already have contact with Kin, try to fix a date like Tuesday or Thursday in some public place with parking, We can do 3 things: renew T2 memberships ... that is literally simple. Have kin (being a board member) enact 4 provisional board members to replace the missing board memb

[clug-talk] Reply for Sam

2014-04-06 Thread R Edwards
Sam already have suggested Thursday (thought Tuesday may be too soon for all interested to make arrangements) to Kin and am awaiting word back from him. Good so far. About the memberships, right there ...simple and quick About replacing FOUR ... have to ask here ... are you wanting/needing

[clug-talk] Getting together

2014-04-06 Thread R Edwards
Sam ...I spoke with Mel on the phone yesterday and a couple of T1 members have communicated the same things about this. It was their feeling that the group should, before the next AGM meeting, make certain that there is no danger of the group dissolving at that meeting. I believe the sentiment

Re: [clug-talk] Getting together

2014-04-06 Thread Bogi
Yep, sounds like the rational thing to do. Let's rebuild the executive board, as needed, and get the registrations done before the AGM, then hold the AGM and see what we get. Elections are a coin toss, and we respect the outcome, we just can't predict it accurately. It looks much better that w

[clug-talk] Gustin

2014-04-06 Thread R Edwards
For Gustin J. Hope that you decide to make it to the signup as I would like the chance to say sorry to you in person. Ron ___ clug-talk mailing list clug-talk@clug.ca http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca Mailing List Guidelines (http://c

[clug-talk] assets

2014-04-06 Thread R Edwards
Does anyone know if the guild/club has any physical assets other than books and perhaps the seal? Ron ___ clug-talk mailing list clug-talk@clug.ca http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.p