On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 4:11 PM, omd wrote:
>> No feedback on the concept even? oh well, maybe not worth doing.
>
> You're not supposed to say that after only 16 hours :)
By the way, I'd appreciate feedback on my RFCs proto too :)
scshunt mentioned once or twice on IRC recently that the yoyo backup
list is not functioning. Indeed, the website 404s, and I just tested
the email functionality by sending messages to both
no...@yoyo.its.monash.edu.au and (in case the list was cleared out but
still up for some reason) nomic-j...@
On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 8:53 PM, omd wrote:
> scshunt mentioned once or twice on IRC recently that the yoyo backup
> list is not functioning.
Incidentally, while tue works, its archive page is execrably designed,
and the mbox download link is broken (returns an empty file):
On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 9:25 PM, Gaelan Steele wrote:
> I’m thinking maybe we should migrate to Google Groups at some point, because
> GG is quite unlikely to go down, and even if it gets Reader’d, they will
> almost certainly provide a data download. Groups also has a nicer UI than
> Mailman/T
On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 7:15 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> Hey omd,
>
> Can you elaborate on what you mean by this? The Ruleset is
> whitespace- inconsequential; formatting is wholly at Rulekeepor
> discretion - the only thing that would "break" in non-fixed
> width is the
On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 6:49 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> By the way, did you notice that the copy in the archives indents the
> Rule Text a couple extra spaces? But not the dividing . So
> if you look in the archives, the text runs over the -.
Heh, I've never noticed that because I don't g
On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 6:16 PM, Luis Ressel wrote:
> I'd be grateful if you could try to use a maximum line length of ~70
> chars for your proposals (the Rulekeepor would probably be happy, too).
(The Rulekeepor needs to rewrap the rule text anyway after indenting
it properly, so it shouldn't ma
On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 7:35 PM, omd wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 6:49 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
>> By the way, did you notice that the copy in the archives indents the
>> Rule Text a couple extra spaces? But not the dividing . So
>> if you look in the archives, t
- Rule 2448 is missing "History:"
- Missing revision number in "Amended() by Proposal 7766 (scshunt), 24
July 2015"
- Wrong date format in "Created by Proposal 7729 (Henri), 11 Feb 2015"
(there is more inconsistency in the older dates, but that's a bit more
work to fix - I didn't know this before)
On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 1:21 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> https://faculty.washington.edu/kerim/agora/rules/
not bad if you make it do lists properly (including indent). I like the style.
On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 1:04 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> I'm sending that same textfile from the command line... somewhere in
> lines that aren't flush, an extra space appears?
You can see that didn't happen when I was the Rulekeepor:
http://www.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-official
On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 9:27 AM, Sean Hunt wrote:
> Unless I'm mistaken, Trust Tokens were repealed as a result of our victory.
Say what?
On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 3:28 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> Thanks! Indexing is definitely something I'm thinking about.
> Also thinking about mouseover text that has snippets of definitions
> (e.g. only the single bullet that defines "SHOULD" could pop up).
Just for reference, an old (2010) attempt o
On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 6:01 PM, omd wrote:
> Rule 2429 puts special status on "paragraphs" when considering
> whitespace. However, paragraphs are not defined.
> Rule 1728 consists of several nested lists. Some list items
> are separated by a blank line, some list item
On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 2:22 AM, Gaelan Steele wrote:
> Proposal “Discussion Redirection” with AI 3 {
> Create the rule “Discussion Redirection” with Power 1 {
> If a message is sent to a Discussion forum that is clearly intended to
> be sent to a Public forum, it SHALL be treated as if
On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 8:31 PM, woggle wrote:
> I was aware of this. You may notice I failed to send the intent to
> agora-business.
Proposal: in "the announcement by which the Registrar makes that forum
public is sent to all existing public fora", remove the word "public".
On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 1:54 PM, Benjamin Schultz
wrote:
> Otherwise the Root is its own Parent.
Makes sense if you envision it as a Unix filesystem.
On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 1:30 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> This Rule:
>> Whoever omd has publicly specified should win the game as a
>> result of the proposal "Mammon Machine" does so upon the
>> enactment of this rule. Then this rule repeals itself.
On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 12:01 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> A blank message with a subject line action hasn't been tried before,
> I think.
http://www.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-business/2007-April/006296.html
:)
Now that Let's Encrypt (the free SSL CA) is in public beta, I've set
it up for the sites on my VPS, including agoranomic.org. So now the
NSA doesn't have to know about your fetish for refreshing the homepage
over and over.
...does anyone want to try updating the homepage?
On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 6:52 PM, Alex Smith wrote:
> Proto "Promotion Points", AI 1:
It might be nice to connect this to Organization Budgets somehow,
though I'm not sure what exactly that would look like.
On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 2:51 AM, Alex Smith wrote:
> On Wed, 2016-02-24 at 02:47 -0500, omd wrote:
>> On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 6:52 PM, Alex Smith
>> wrote:
>> > Proto "Promotion Points", AI 1:
>>
>> It might be nice to connect this to Organizatio
On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 6:10 PM, Sprocklem wrote:
> Adding reddit will mean one of two things: either I need to remember to
> check the Agora subreddit regularly (whereas with email, I am notified
> of new messages by my email client), or people will be required to send
> a link to (important) red
I alluded to this in my original post, but let me elaborate.
I've never really liked the "weekly ASCII email report" paradigm, for
a few reasons:
- In practice, a week is often too long to wait to be updated on the
latest state, so officeholders often maintain a continually updated
web copy on th
On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 7:36 PM, Nich Del wrote:
> I also don't know who manages what, wrt the site and the lists, but if we
> could use one of the three existing lists (agora-official?) with the new
> software that would make the transfer that much less painful.
Both the site and the lists (Mail
On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 8:53 PM, Nich Del wrote:
> Forgot to add: I'd be happy to start collecting the most recent versions of
> reports in a git to get the ball rolling on this. Was there a structure in
> mind besides a single folder with each report as its own markdown file?
Whatever is support
On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 3:47 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
>> Since the core of the wiki is git, it would be trivial to allow you to make
>> commits to github,
>> which could be merged in (and always preferred in conflicts) regularly. That
>> way you could
>> still automate without messing with the web
On Sat, Jun 25, 2016 at 5:26 AM, ais523 wrote:
> I attempted to post to a public forum. Maybe it didn't go through?
Note that the mailing lists are configured to hold all messages from
unsubscribed addresses, the vast majority of which are spam, without
notifying the sender. Bouncing doesn't wor
On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 6:46 PM, nichdel wrote:
> Now that we've discussed the technical improvements to Agora and plans
> seem to be underway, I thought it'd be worthwhile to talk in more
> detail about possible changes to the rules, especially since that's an
> area where more of us can contribu
I'm a little embarrassed, considering that I wrote recently about
upgrading the infrastructure in question but have since been
distracted to the point that I didn't even see this until now...
Thanks for thinking of it though :)
On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 5:57 AM, Alex Smith wrote:
> "If it was required to be initiated, then e SHALL resolve it in a
> timely fashion after the end of the voting period." Huh, what a weird
> exception: if there's no requirement to initiate a Decision, there's no
> requirement to resolve it once
On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 6:31 PM, Alex Smith wrote:
> Do you want to join the judge list, by the way?
Sure.
On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 8:51 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
wrote:
> I point my finger at omd for violation of No Faking.
I do apologize for the confusion; however, I claim I didn't violate No
Faking, as it was a good faith mistake (I figured I'd have been long
deregistered
Hey everyone,
I like the new site. Actually, I feel kind of bad, since some time
ago I said I'd do the tech myself and then I disappeared instead. Not
sure why I didn't think of GitHub Pages - that seems to work pretty
well! Although it doesn't provide an obvious way to integrate the
lists, but
On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 2:39 PM, omd wrote:
> It seems like it would be a good idea to point agoranomic.org at the
> new site. Assuming you agree, whoever owns the GitHub organization,
> please add www.agoranomic.org as a custom domain in the GitHub
> settings and let me know, and I
On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 6:17 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
wrote:
> I like the not using the www prefix as a solution. Once you decide, I can do
> the GitHub side of things or allow you to do it.
OK, sounds good. I just pointed the root domain to GitHub and set up
www to redirect; the old
Last night, when I changed the DNS for agoranomic.org to point to
GitHub Pages, I forgot to change the MX record so that my server would
continue to receive mail. I knew I had to do that, but it slipped my
mind... Thus the lists were down for several hours, until this morning
when I saw an email f
On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 1:12 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> (one of my discussion emails hasn't shown up after an hour, so: public ping)
Are you talking about this message?
> Is "green card" going to be standard for over 2 weeks late on
> judgements, and late reports?
If so, it seems to have gone thr
On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 1:26 PM, omd wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 1:12 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
>> (one of my discussion emails hasn't shown up after an hour, so: public ping)
>
> Are you talking about this message?
>
>> Is "green card" going
So, almost exactly a year ago I said I wanted to transition the lists
to either GroupServer or Mailman 3, mainly for the sake of a better
web interface that includes the ability to post online (to reduce
friction for new users who might not want to sign up for 3 mailing
lists just to dip their toes
Do we really need to restrict wiki edits to authorized users? That
creates a less friendly experience for new players who would have to
ask for permission. The alternative[1] would be allowing edits from
anyone with a GitHub account; there's still an account name
associated, so I don't think ther
Proto: Buy low, sell high (AI=2)
Create a Power-1 Rule titled "Stocks":
The following Stocks exist:
Abbr. Name
-
CFJCollaborative Finance Journal
PDFPower Dance & Fitness
PGPPineapple Growers' Partnership
RR Renascent Ribbons
Proto: Track it on the wiki (AI=2)
Create Power-1 Rule titled "Wiki":
The Wiki is located at https://agoranomic.org/wiki/.
For any state the rules define to be "tracked by all players on
the Wiki":
- When any player performs an action via public message that
chan
On Sat, Jun 24, 2017 at 4:45 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
wrote:
> I don’t like the idea of tracking it in a markdown environment. What about
> have a special repository for tracking such things.
Meh, I think Markdown is fine - in fact, preferable, as it combines
pretty formatting with th
On Sat, Jun 24, 2017 at 4:47 PM, Owen Jacobson wrote:
> Dividends should probably be paid out of some fund or out of Agora’s balance,
> or come with an automatic Shiny Relevelling Event, or something. This would
> also mean that there would be a limit on how many Shinies can be Cranked Out.
> O
On Sat, Jun 24, 2017 at 6:00 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Jun 2017, Owen Jacobson wrote:
>> A pledge MAY be considered broken if the pledgor does
>
> Using MAY here is grammatically odd to me. Do you mean "might"?
> Or do you mean (using the definition of MAY) that it is not against
> th
[replied to list, since I don't see a reason not to talk in public..]
On Sat, Jun 24, 2017 at 5:02 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
wrote:
> For each Stock, Holdings of that Stock is a player switch whose
> value is a nonnegative integer, default 0. For each Stock,
> Total Holdi
On Sun, Jun 25, 2017 at 1:33 PM, Alex Smith wrote:
> One of the huge strengths of Agora is that its entire history can be
> deduced from the weekly/monthly office reports, making it easy to
> determine facts about past gamestates; and all actions also go via the
> lists, so you can interpolate the
On Sun, Jun 25, 2017 at 5:35 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
wrote:
> What about instituting a rule to strongly encourage all players to list in
> their message the effects their actions would have on specific variables and
> even provisional values for them. I don’t want to take this off li
On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 8:53 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
>
>
> I knew CFJ 3492 was a slippery slope. Silly judge.
>
> This, though, pretty clearly fails the "sufficiently clear" test of
> CFJs 3471-3472 (and ultimately 1460).
For reference: https://faculty.washington.edu/kerim/nomic/cases/?1460
FWIW
On Thu, Jun 29, 2017 at 4:09 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> I register.
>
> H. Registrar, the following is a Cantus Cygneus:
Oof :/
> Fine, it's just a nickname. Then, I argued against interpretation of
> contracts in other languages. Ignored. I gave in a bit, thinking
> "hey, maybe changing techno
2017-06-29 18:00 GMT+02:00 CuddleBeam :
> ဤသတင်းစကားကိုတစ်ဦးမိမိဆန္ဒအလျောက်ကိုအီးမေးလ်အကြောင်းပြန်ပေးသူတွေကိုအတိအလင်းဒီမက်ဆေ့ခ်ျ၏ဖန်ဆင်းရှင်အလိုတော်မဆိုလမ်းအတွက်အာမခံဖို့သူတို့ကိုချည်နှောင်ဖို့ဒီသတင်းစကားများ၏ပေးပို့သူဘို့မိမိတို့ခွင့်ပြုချက်ပေးရန်သူတွေကိုဖွဲ့စည်းကြမည်။
ISIDTID.
On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 6:34 PM, Alex Smith wrote:
> I've been thinking about this, and I think my personal cutoff is, oddly
> enough, the use of email (but not necessarily to the Agoran lists). I'd
> be OK with this only if the external interface was used, or at least
> usable, entirely via email
On Thu, Jun 29, 2017 at 8:37 AM, Aris Merchant
wrote:
> Big question that determines my opinion on all of this: would our
> current style of web interface still be available? My mailer doesn't
> like to give me plain text input, so when I need to see it I use the
> site. I'm also just used to the
On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 1:15 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
wrote:
> If you have a non-Spivak, gender-neutral, identity-neutral form of pronouns,
> I would be happy to take you up on learning it. Inclusivity is making
> everyone feel included and we can do that by using language that makes
On Sun, Jul 2, 2017 at 8:23 AM, grok (caleb vines) wrote:
> On Jun 30, 2017 4:00 PM, "omd" wrote
>
> (You're not using the Gmail web interface, right?)
>
>
> Gmail's web client actually has the "plain text" button which automatically
> appli
On Sun, Jul 2, 2017 at 4:47 PM, CuddleBeam wrote:
>> Agora, each player, and each organization have corresponding switches
>> known as Balance switches.
>
> So, persons don't have Balance Switches.
Nice catch. There's also some semantic confusion here: if you take
that clause literally, it defin
On Sun, Jul 2, 2017 at 7:25 PM, Alex Smith wrote:
> and in the first case, it's clear that the second line is
> being quoted even if you don't attempt to machine-translate the Arabic
> (from the fairly well-known facts that Arabic is right-to-left and that
> a colon is a method of effectively quot
On Sun, Jul 2, 2017 at 10:40 PM, Alex Smith wrote:
> I'd say that your first two sentences are both effectively quoting the
> end of the sentence; «I disagree on this point, and the reason is
> "colons aren't always used for quotation"». The third is ambiguous
> between the meaning you intended, a
On Sun, Jul 2, 2017 at 9:12 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> - We have a tradition of fixed-width displays, to the extent that we make
> our reports and other legal documents (tables) that way. If tables don't
> display correctly, we tend to say "switch to a fixed width browser" not
> "we
>
On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 11:33 AM, Alex Smith wrote:
> omd: unresolvable conditional, default PRESENT
> [note: omd's conditional depends on the correctness of the judgement;
> given that the judgement reasoning is being remanded, there's no
> Agoran-legal reason to c
On Sun, Jul 9, 2017 at 4:56 AM, CuddleBeam wrote:
> Arguments:
> - CFJ 3532 ("Assets with multiple backing documents can't exist")
> - R2166 states "An asset is an entity defined as such by a rule", however,
> this is in itself a definition of what an asset is - it is an entity defined
> as such b
I just started playing again, so I can't really judge CuddleBeam's
attitude or whatever. But as someone who's a fan of scams and has
perpetrated many in the past:
Scams are a balance. On one hand, by pulling a scam you're inherently
taking a toll on other players. A practical toll, because you'
On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 3:03 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Jul 2017, omd wrote:
>> There's no law,
>> for example, that we have to care about the true Platonic gamestate,
>> no law that if we discover something's been done wrong (and not
>> mitigated th
On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 3:02 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> Yah, I'm looking and I haven't found it. So right now it's just a
> "what I think I remember" thing. FWIW, the logic I remember is that
> Subject lines are like quotes in replies: they get repeated and replied
> to and aren't part of the text
On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 4:16 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> Just as a note, I think 2895 was a Trial on something unrelated, and scshunt
> supplied gratuitous arguments for 2897, while accidentally calling them
> arguments for 2895. And those arguments got stuck with 2895 in the log. So
> currently, t
I have no idea what that message is but we really ought to bring back contests.
Sent from my iPad
On Aug 10, 2010, at 5:36 PM, ais523 wrote:
> On Tue, 2010-08-10 at 16:30 -0500, Aaron Goldfein wrote:
>> Wrong mailing list.
>
> Right list, wrong year.
>
> --
> ais523
Yo dawg.
Sent from my iPad
On Aug 11, 2010, at 11:46 AM, Alex Smith wrote:
> I call for judgement on the statement "It is POSSIBLE for the CotC to
> assign a judge to a CFJ, other than this one, which has exactly this
> statement". Then if I have not already done so, I publish a copy of the
> t
So, what sort of disclaimers work? The judgements of CFJs 1935, 1971,
and 2227 imply that they can come after a message without trouble, and
CFJ 1971 in particular that an excessively disclaimered message fails
to provide any substantive information and so fails to take some
actions; but here is a
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 4:27 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> Looking through all this, I think disclaimers should have no direct legal
> effect other than to alert people that something might be wrong. Then, if
> a truthiness case is brought, an "honest" disclaimer about minor uncertainty
> (or truly di
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 5:29 PM, Keba wrote:
> Rules to the contrary notwithstanding, the voting period for a
> decision with at least two options cannot be shorter than seven
> days, except a Rule with a power of 3 or higher explicitly
> states so.
s/except/unless
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 4:37 AM, Sean Hunt wrote:
> Okay, last go for now. I promise this will end, whether it works or not.
>
> Hopefully using the correct filename will work.
>
> -coppro
>
Predicting timing scam.
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 1:21 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> BE IT HEREBY PROCLAIMED that no interpretation of Agoran law or
> binding agreement may substantially limit or remove a natural
> person's rights as defined by this Rule, except through the
> explicit and legal amendment
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 3:03 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
>
>
> On Mon, 23 Aug 2010, Alex Smith wrote:
>> --- On Mon, 23/8/10, comex wrote:
>> > http://agora.qoid.us/current_flr.html?annotate=1
>
> Ambiguous annotations found so far:
Fixed most of these.
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 12:37 AM, Sean Hunt wrote:
> Also, you cannot do this, as Wooble CAN legally distribute a proposal.
Not this one.
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
>
>
> On Mon, 23 Aug 2010, Sean Hunt wrote:
>> I change my nickname to 'The Robot'.
>>
>> -coppro
>
> See CFJ 1520.
In this case, the entity with the name "The Robot" will be coppro *at
the time of the enaction of the rule*. Also:
A document
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 3:47 AM, Ed Murphy wrote:
> CFJ, disqualifying omd: In the section of Rule 106 quoted in caller's
> evidence, "permit" should be interpreted as referring to possibility
> and not legality.
I never said it referred to legality. The proposal I att
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 9:30 PM, Ed Murphy wrote:
>> It's 22-20 and the voting period is over.
>
> Not yet confirmed (I need to evaluate several conditionals and add them
> to the DB), but even if you're right, it's AI=2 so it would fail.
For what it's worth, I
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 3:58 AM, Alex Smith
wrote:
> Possibly relevant here: CFJ 2775, which found that a nickname change wasn't
> effective unless Agoran players as a whole went along with it. The arguments
> are rather specific to nicknames in particular, though, rather than names in
> gener
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 7:38 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> I'm not sure how the "received by" agoranomic date can be before you sent it,
> unless someone has their clock wrong. That agoranomic date is consistent
> with the time my server received it a few mins later and the time I saw it
> a few minut
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 7:38 PM, Michael Norrish
wrote:
> I think I remember something similar. I certainly wrote a judgement that
> defeated such an attempt. I used the "Alice Through the Looking Glass"
> argument that being called something, and having something as a name are not
> necessarily
On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 12:07 AM, Ed Murphy wrote:
>> I should look this up, but note that we have in the past accepted
>> dictatorship rules of the form "[player name] CAN do whatever by
>> announcement" without any special explicitness, and currently have a
>> (non-scam) rule that mentions Taral
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 9:27 PM, Warrigal wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 8:34 PM, Sean Hunt
> wrote:
>> I change my nickname to 'The Robot'.
>>
>> -coppro
>
> I publish a Notice of Violation accusing coppro of violating rule 2170
> (power 3) by changing eir nickname to "The Robot", a confusing
On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 4:41 AM, ais523 wrote:
> Five times, I spend two ergs to destroy one of coppro's ergs.
I spend two ergs to destroy one of coppro's rests.
I spend two ergs to destroy one of coppro's rests.
I spend two ergs to destroy one of coppro's rests.
On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 10:25 PM, Sean Hunt wrote:
> How about Labor?
No opinion.
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 11:10 PM, Geoffrey Spear wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 10:05 PM, wrote:
>> For each active player, I intend, with support and with notice, to make em
>> inactive.
>
> CoE: comex can not make players inactive with support and with notice.
Not a valid CoE. I probably
On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 2:34 PM, omd wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Ed Murphy wrote:
>> Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=2851a
>
> AFFIRM without prejudice
I just remembered that I actually destroyed those 3 rests, but if the
appellant isn
On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 11:47 AM, Ed Murphy wrote:
>> 6826 P 0 3.1 coppro Quadruple Oops
> AGAINST (unneeded, R1688 "Threshold defaults to the securing Rule's
> Power")
It was upmutated by a different proposal.
On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 8:00 PM, Keba wrote:
> comex wrote (in the section of the Prop rule):
>> At the beginning of each Agoran Week, two props are destroyed in
>> the possession of each player who did not transfer one of their
>> props to another player in the previous week. If
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 4:03 PM, Keba wrote:
> Proposal "White Renaissance" (AI=1, II=1, distributable via fee)
> {{{
> Amend Rule 2199 "Ribbons" by removing:
>
> (except for White Ribbons, which can be awarded at any time
> within a month after they are earned)
>
> [So, no one posses
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 4:42 PM, Keba wrote:
>> Why were White Ribbons removed in the first place?
>
> See CfJ 2836. White Ribbons only exist because of that phrase, if this
> phrase is deleted, all white ribbons are deleted as well.
Yeah, why did their regular definition get removed? I like them
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 11:54 PM, Warrigal wrote:
> The asset defined is not "white ribbon"; it is "ribbon". Every ribbon
> then has a color. A white ribbon is a ribbon whose color is white;
> even though the rules stop using the term "white ribbon", white does
> not cease to be a color. (Likewise,
On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 9:26 PM, Warrigal wrote:
> Note that "class" isn't actually defined by the rules. It could just
> as easily be "type", or even "set". If the rules state that something
> is a class of asset, that doesn't really tell us anything we didn't
> already know.
Here's a question.
On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 10:44 PM, omd wrote:
> Here's a question.
>
> An asset is an entity defined as such by a rule or contest
> (hereafter its backing document), and existing solely because
> its backing document defines its existence.
>
> If oblique r
On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 6:33 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> STATEMENT
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> G. cast 7 valid ballots on the decision to adopt proposal 6830.
Gratuitous: As the author of the Implicit Votes rule, I (IIRC)
initially considered either defining the concept of an infinite number
of votes or setting some large n
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 2:18 AM, ais523 wrote:
> If we continue wording proposals like we normally do, each of them will
> take effect continuously.
Oops, I had text to address there but must have accidentally removed it.
On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 5:27 PM, Keba wrote:
> I intend without objection to clean Rule 2303 "Teams" by replacing:
It's "grammar".
On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 6:53 PM, Warrigal wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 3:03 PM, Alex Smith wrote:
>> I deputise for the Sysadmin to initiate an Agoran Decision as to which
>> Website Submission to select. The options available are Website
>> Submission 1 (by Murphy), Website Submission 2 (by
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 1:02 PM, Warrigal wrote:
> I contest this. Isn't it possible to question an obvious truth? Don't
> philosophers do it all the time?
There's great precedent for the law punishing philosophers. ;)
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 2:38 PM, Geoffrey Spear wrote:
> I support. In any event, the judge did not consider every possible
> reason Tiger could be a pope (including the gratuitous arguments
> regarding Discordian Popeiness), so a judgment of UNDETERMINED should
> be considered.
Said arguments d
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