DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2254 assigned to OscarMeyr

2008-11-18 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 11:37 AM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >ehird, comex, Quazie, and myself have failed to meet their >obligations per section 10 of the Vote Market agreement. Gratuitous argument: it would be equitable to require the above-mentioned parties to purchase vote po

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2254 assigned to OscarMeyr

2008-11-18 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 4:32 PM, Elliott Hird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 18 Nov 2008, at 21:27, Geoffrey Spear wrote: > >> Gratuitous argument: it would be equitable to require the >> above-mentioned parties to purchase vote points from the other parties >

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2254 assigned to OscarMeyr

2008-11-19 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 10:44 AM, Elliott Hird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's not easy to determine what's a good or bad rate unless you have > something impartial monitoring their value somehow (PBA). PBA's rate change algorithm isn't impartial, it's just an arbitrary way of adjusting. It see

DIS: Re: BUS: So Hey This is a CFJ

2008-11-19 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 11:21 AM, Elliott Hird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Murphy, if you reject this as ambiguous I will eat your soul because my > intent > is clear. I'm so disappointed that I won't get to vote for you as CotC later today. Demanding that a CFJ with no statement is accepted is

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: So Hey This is a CFJ

2008-11-19 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 12:50 PM, Elliott Hird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I nominate Murphy as CotC so he can have a few days while I write > a superior interface and demonstrate my amazing speed of assignment. Fails, e is already a consenting nominee in the current nomination period.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: musical banking

2008-11-19 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 1:06 PM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 9:54 AM, Geoffrey Spear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I spent Db Db D to gain a C note. > > Fails. Surely you meant to write "Eb Db D". (9) A player CAN s

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJs 2276-78 assigned to Wooble

2008-11-20 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 11:31 AM, Alex Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I intend to appeal this with 2 support. Increasing a player's voting > limit on a decision causes it to be higher than it otherwise would have > been. Eir voting limit was 1, increased by 50 (or however many it was, I > can't

DIS: Proto: Party Politics

2008-11-20 Thread Geoffrey Spear
I proto-propose the following AI=2 proposal, "Party Politics": { Create a new Power 2 rule entitled "Cliques" with the following text: Clique leader is a public contract switch, tracked by the Notary, with a default value of 'none', and a set of possible values which consists of

DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Voting results for Proposals 5965 - 5971

2008-11-20 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 1:53 PM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > *5967 O1 1.0 Murphy Fix Looks like a quote-handling bug in your script.

Re: DIS: Re: [s-b] BUS: Werewolves session #2 update

2008-11-20 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 2:30 PM, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 1:56 PM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> ais523, ehird, Pavitra, Wooble, and comex are all voting to lynch >> avpx. That's 5 out of 5, so avpx dies. (E was one of the two >> werewolves.) > > Ugh, I

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJs 2276-78 assigned to Wooble

2008-11-20 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 5:09 PM, Taral <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I support. The judge doesn't even address the issue of whether or not > the increases are affected by chokey. If they work, they're clearly not. Only the rule defining caste-based voting limit even mentions the chokey.

Re: DIS: I was bored, so I wrote this

2008-11-21 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 8:32 PM, Warrigal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Rule 104 (power 1): > > "The Speaker for the first game shall be Michael Norrish." e doesn't get a say?

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Party politics

2008-11-21 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 12:42 PM, Roger Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 07:33, Geoffrey Spear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Coalition is a clique switch, tracked by the Notary, with a set >> of possible values which consists of

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Teh Cltohed Mna Gseo Bey Bey

2008-11-21 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 1:04 PM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I deregister Teh Clthohed Mna. > > It already deregistered in June, no? err, yes, apparently. For some reason I've still been tracking its 0 ribbons.

DIS: Re: BUS: Animal

2008-11-23 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 12:38 PM, Warrigal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Canids 1 through 100 register. Context: Canids 1 through 100 are > canids I saw once. They all asked me to act on their behalf to > register. Therefore, I can. I intend, with 2 support, to initiate a criminal CFJ, alleging War

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Animal

2008-11-23 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 2:58 PM, Elliott Hird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Would you cut it out with trying to EXILE Warrigal all the time for > obvious sarcasm/jokes? As soon as e stops sending obvious sarcasm to the PF as purported Game Actions.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Seeing whether the US dollar is worthless or not

2008-11-24 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 7:34 PM, Warrigal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So that I can see the value of coins relative to USD Vouchers, whose > value is closely related to that of USD. 0 There, now you've seen it.

DIS: Re: BUS: Formatting CFJs

2008-11-24 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 9:33 PM, Warrigal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I CFJ on the statement 'As Rule 1023 defines the terms, a unit of text > consisting entirely of the string "1993:" is enumerated.' and the > statement 'As Rule 1023 defines the terms, a unit of text consisting > entirely of the

Re: DIS: Draft Herald Report

2008-11-24 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 5:12 PM, Sgeo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > MINISTERS WITHOUT PORTFOLIO > Levi 21-Oct-07 // Not a player > pikhq31-Dec-07 <- Speaker > BobTHJ2-Mar-08 pikhq isn't Speaker;

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Seeing whether the US dollar is worthless or not

2008-11-24 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 10:13 AM, Roger Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Simplified version. I agree to the following: I'd like to state for the record (and the eventual grand jury) that I have no specific knowledge of the scam ehird is planning, or why e wanted to know what email address is ass

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Seeing whether the US dollar is worthless or not

2008-11-24 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 10:29 AM, Roger Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So are we trying to establish that Agoran Contracts can not refer to > entities external to Agora without fear of having their references to > those entities usurped by other contracts? It's already established that such us

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Formatting CFJs

2008-11-24 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 2:51 PM, Warrigal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As it is, I can *maybe* refer to a certain unit of text in my proposed > initial Book of History as something like "paragraph 1993:I[4]". If > these CFJs come up FALSE, I suppose I could amend the Book so that the > paragraphs a

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Banking

2008-11-25 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 8:23 AM, Elliott Hird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > He has said (##nomic) that it was a private pledge that was then destroyed. Note that I could've been lying.

DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ

2008-11-25 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 8:45 AM, Elliott Hird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I CFJ on the statement: The Vote Market is a contract. > > Arguments: That quote. :P CFJ 1872 established that it is a contract, and it has the required number of parties now anyway. When the contract was formed, private pa

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 5985-5990

2008-11-25 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 1:21 PM, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I must live in an alternate universe where some players "play the game" > by not even paying attention to cases going on around them. Oh, wait... > damn. Whereas the rest of us live in an alternate universe where players bl

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Boring Loan Service report

2008-11-25 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 7:22 PM, Warrigal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 12:28 PM, Warrigal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I increase root's Debt by 578 by transferring 578 coins to em. >> >> In light of ais523's truly scary interest rate, without 3 objections, >> I intend to r

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: PRS

2008-11-26 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 7:12 AM, Joshua Boehme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Since I wasn't in on the discussion, could someone provide the context, > please? That was all of the context, and I was incorrect. The contestmaster switch is tracked by the Notary, but the list of contestmasters is par

Re: DIS: Proto: Subgame/Contest: The Evolution of Cooperation

2008-11-26 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 12:15 PM, Elliott Hird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, but you can't use a Windows binary. And revealing source would damage > the contest, if I understand it. Presumably everyone using a scripting language would reveal the source to the contestmaster anyway.

Re: DIS: another uh-oh

2008-11-28 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 6:40 AM, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Uh, do the second and third paragraphs of R1607 actually sufficiently > imply that the Promoter CAN in fact distribute a proposal? -G. I think so; this seems like the same thing as "X SHALL Y by announcement", except the

Re: DIS: werewolves

2008-11-28 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 10:03 PM, Pavitra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What's going on with this? Are we stalled again? Yes. 2 of you are foolishly voting with the werewolf to lynch me instead of ehird, who was granted power of attorney by the one known werewolf, which is stalling things.

DIS: Re: BUS: Text of the Werewolves contract

2008-11-28 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 10:44 PM, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I nominate ais523 as Notary. Ineffective; the nomination period for Notary has ended.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2273a assigned to Warrigal, BobTHJ, ais523

2008-11-28 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 11:23 PM, Taral <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 9:10 AM, Warrigal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> As it is now, the Protection >> Racket has three first-class parties (BobTHJ, Taral and ehird) and >> about twenty first-class non-parties. I think they're ou

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2273a assigned to Warrigal, BobTHJ, ais523

2008-11-30 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 10:04 AM, Alexander Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Another interesting data point: I was playing Cheat with a single deck > of cards with some friends. Someone called "two fives", and put down > two cards. So I called "three fives", and put down the other two fives, > in

Re: DIS: Proto: Kill the backlog!

2008-11-30 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 3:48 PM, Sgeo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > { > Ratify the Notary's latest report. Public contracts not in the > Notary's latest report cease to exist. > } Won't work. The Notary's latest report was, I think, correct at the time it was published, so ratifying it wouldn't af

Re: DIS: Re: [s-b] BUS: RE: ^354 Is Worth More Than What I'd Get For Winning

2008-11-30 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 3:52 PM, Pavitra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You can only invest 2 points per week, I think. The recent changes (not Notary-recordkept) say you can invest up to the amount the contract CAN revoke, and limits its own revoking power to 5 points. I don't believe it's further

DIS: Re: BUS: PBA report

2008-11-30 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 2:15 PM, Elliott Hird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Coin Holdings CoE: I tink the website from which this was copy/pasted wasn't up to date as of the time this was copied, so much of this may have been wrong. Letting it ratify would be a Bad Thing.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [IADoP] pointless elections

2008-11-30 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 5:10 PM, Pavitra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Even if it's not required, I consider it a SHOULD; at the least, it's > courteous to recordkeepors to minimize the implicitness of relevant > information. For the record, since implicit consent was removed, I've been ignoring me

Re: DIS: PRS

2008-12-01 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 4:03 PM, Taral <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Someone remind me again why we have point award limits and fixed > points if the PRS is around? Because BobTHJ wanted to expend the much greater effort involved in scamming the PRS into existence rather than just proposing changing

Re: DIS: Proto: Trademarks

2008-12-02 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 7:24 AM, Warrigal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Filing fee" to discourage pointless trademarking I'm not sure I see a point to any trademarking at all. In the real world, exclusivity rights to trademarks exist to prevent businesses from confusing consumers by marketing good

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Caste cycling

2008-12-02 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 10:02 AM, Elliott Hird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "I deprive some people of a chance under a system. I then claim this is > an example of why you should vote for another system." Players at the end of the List realistically have no chance whatsoever of the Poobah ever prom

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 5991-6003

2008-12-02 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 4:16 PM, Sgeo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I fill my own sell ticket on 5997, specifying FOR. > I fill my own sell ticket on 5998, specifying FOR. Does this even work? A vote of SELL is, by contract, a vote conditionally endorsing the filler of the ticket, not a vote condi

DIS: Re: BUS: Caste cycling

2008-12-02 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 10:45 AM, Alex Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 2008-12-01 at 18:41 -0500, Benjamin Schultz wrote: >> Demoted to Delta: Bayes (twice!) (2nd class, weakest exemption, forced) > CoE: According to rule 2211, you SHALL NOT demote the same person twice; > the 4th par

DIS: Re: BUS: Caste cycling

2008-12-02 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:37 PM, Sgeo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I transfer one prop from Bayes to ais523: Why should Bayes get a prop > when it's ais523 correcting OscarMeyr, who doesn't know the rules? HE DOES KNOW THE RULES. I'd transfer a prop from Sgeo to OscarMeyr, but I already transferr

DIS: Re: BUS: So Speaker can dodge losing eir MwPship by abusing inactivity?

2008-12-03 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 8:19 AM, Sgeo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > player wasn't inactive, until there the number of persons bearing this I think you meant to remove the "there" there; as written it doesn't make sense.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: So Speaker can dodge losing eir MwPship by abusing inactivity?

2008-12-03 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 9:10 AM, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here's my ugly (un-)wrapping script if you want it: > http://agora.qoid.us/aword.py Can you repackage that as a greasemonkey script that will do the formatting within Gmail?

DIS: Re: BUS: Vote Murphy!

2008-12-03 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 8:20 PM, Benjamin Schultz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I vote 3 x FOR Prop. 6007 ("Thanks Murphy"). I withdraw / decline my > self-nomination for Notary. I'm counting this as declining my nomination of you, since your self-nomination was ineffective due to being published d

Re: DIS: Some fascinating, live, real-world nomic

2008-12-03 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 9:09 PM, Jamie Dallaire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Any idea what the consequence of Obama being declared not unnaturally born > would be? Considering McCain was born in Panama at a time when the law specifically made children of Americans born in other places "natural born

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Tailor] Ribbon Report

2008-12-04 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 1:41 PM, Sgeo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, but not from Champion. If I'm reading the rules correctly, e got > a ribbon for Minister without Portfolio, which e got at the same time > as Champion. right, I'll correct the annotation, although the method of receiving ribbon

DIS: Re: BUS: Well, what is it?

2008-12-07 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 7:58 PM, Warrigal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In the future, I may CFJ on the statements "It is a being.", "It is a > referent.", "It is a concept.", and "It is an object." In the future, I look forward to appealing any judgment on these that isn't IRRELEVANT or UNDETERMINE

Re: DIS: R.I.P. Ninja Nomic

2008-12-09 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 5:04 PM, Elliott Hird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Allowed"? So the admin can ignore changes he doesn't like? I see. There's no true gamestate, so why should the recordkeepors even care what the rules say? As long as the community agrees to go along with what their reports

Re: DIS: extreme nomic - Illinois addition

2008-12-09 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 10:51 PM, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, 9 Dec 2008, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> The nomic-ness of the first couple sentences of this paragraph struck me: > > On another subject, back when you were discussing what would happen > if Obama lost the citizenship iss

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: PNP Parties Change

2008-12-10 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 7:02 AM, Warrigal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > the PNP? (It was: "The PerlNomic Partnership shall act by using the > mechanisms of the PerlNomic game to send messages to the appropriate > Agoran fora. This is the only mechanism by which the PerlNomic > Partnership may act."

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: PNP Parties Change

2008-12-10 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 7:29 AM, Warrigal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> If you're not a member of the Partnership, the PNP CANNOT act by your >> actions using the mechanisms of the game and thus did not publish that >> message. > > How do you conclude that? You quoted it yourself: "The PerlNomic P

DIS: Re: BUS: PNP Parties Change

2008-12-10 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 11:46 PM, Warrigal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I zoop a criminal case against the PerlNomic Partnership for violating > Rule 2215 by announcing that I am a party to it in the quoted message. I intend, with 2 support, to initiate a criminal CFJ against Warrigal for violating

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2282a assigned to root, BobTHJ, Wooble

2008-12-10 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 2:23 PM, Taral <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 10:17 AM, Elliott Hird > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On 10 Dec 2008, at 17:31, Roger Hicks wrote: >> >>> I (if possible) pre-emptively support any judgment of REMAND or REASSIGN. >> >> nttpf > > dhtbttpf

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2282a assigned to root, BobTHJ, Wooble

2008-12-10 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 2:27 PM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Geoffrey Spear wrote: >> On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 2:23 PM, Taral <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 10:17 AM, Elliott Hird >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Ruling in CFJ 2301

2008-12-10 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 3:31 PM, Joshua Boehme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's worth something like 5-6 Chits. 4.92795 chits.

DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ

2008-12-11 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 3:51 PM, Elliott Hird wrote: > If there is not a CFJ concerning whether I am a party to the Vote Market, I > initiate a CFJ on the statement "ehird is a party to the Vote Market". > > Arguments: I recently abused the naming rules to define a contract defining > VP as a curr

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ

2008-12-11 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 4:08 PM, Elliott Hird wrote: > On 11 Dec 2008, at 21:02, Geoffrey Spear wrote: > >> Gratuitous: the new contract was not the backing document for VP, as >> they would continue to exist if the new contract didn't exist, thus it >> couldn&#

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Werewolves session #3 update

2008-12-14 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 11:09 PM, Jamie Dallaire wrote: > On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 10:58 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: >> >> The Lovers have been chosen and informed. The first day phase >> hereby begins. > > So... Any inactives we should get rid of? avpx and Quazie, definitely. Zefram is inactive but s

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 6018-6026

2008-12-15 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 6:08 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: > ehird wrote: > >> On 15 Dec 2008, at 23:04, Roger Hicks wrote: >> >>> I (serving as language police) transfer a prop from ehird to Murphy >>> for a great Star Trek reference. >> >> I transfer a prop from BobTHJ to myself for using language >> (sp

DIS: Campaign Speech: non-Conductor's non-report

2008-12-22 Thread Geoffrey Spear
I don't publish the following. If elected, I might publish it. (Non-)Conductor's Lead Sheet Date of this (non-)report: Mon 22 Dec 2008 Date of last report: Sun 14 Dec 2008 Date of last manual ratification : Tue 22 Jan 2008 Date of report last manually ratified: Fri 18 Jan 2008 (All time

Re: DIS: InterNomic Player/Bot Working Group

2008-12-22 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 3:17 PM, Charles Schaefer wrote: > Teach it to support/object (could be useful for automatically objecting > if it detects a lack of activity followed by scam-type actions) > Have it judge cases (I know that would be really hard to program; just an > idea) Second-class pl

DIS: Re: BUS: Brian's DiploNomic Report

2008-12-23 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 10:45 PM, Warrigal wrote: >> Any Player can send a public message to Agora with support and without >> 2 objections in 4 to 14 days.} If that works to create a power of attorney, Agora's more broken than I thought.

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2306 assigned to comex

2008-12-23 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 9:28 PM, comex wrote: > Oracu-proposal (AI=1.5): Amend Rule 649 by replacing the first two > sentences of the third paragraph of Rule 649 with: > While a Patent Title has been awarded to (and not revoked from) > an entity, that entity is said to Bear that Patent T

DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2309 assigned to Wooble

2008-12-23 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 7:36 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: > Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=2309 > > == CFJ 2309 == > >ehird is a party to the Vote Market R2166 reads, in part: An asset is an entity defined as s

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2309 assigned to Wooble

2008-12-23 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 10:26 AM, Elliott Hird wrote: > > On 23 Dec 2008, at 15:20, Geoffrey Spear wrote: > >> the compound action >> of creating pledge-defined VP and then transforming them back to an >> asset by terminating the pledge CANNOT modify any informa

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: BF joust begins!

2008-12-23 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 3:56 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: > Disagree; the time limits for objections and resolution are both > extended to January 8, making it effectively impossible. This can > be fixed by re-submitting intent on or after December 25. R1728 doesn't set time limits for the action of obj

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: BF joust begins!

2008-12-23 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 4:49 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > holiday, you can do it during the holiday or after. For example, if > you're assigned a CFJ the day before a holiday, you are given > permission to judge with a time limit several days past the holiday. > But you can still judge during the hol

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I Intend Happy Holidays for All!

2008-12-23 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 7:37 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > Didn't we figure this particular one out back in that first CFJ > on whether this was possible? -G. CFJs can be decided wrongly. It's not in the best interests of the game for players to act on behalf of others using a mechanism that recordk

DIS: Re: BUS: I Intend Happy Holidays for All!

2008-12-24 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 10:52 AM, Elliott Hird wrote: > > On 24 Dec 2008, at 00:00, Kerim Aydin wrote: > >> 2. Having received no Objections, I ratify the following report with a >> scope of the SLR: > > CoE: I have an outstanding objection to everything, maybe You withdrew it, almost certainly.

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Ambassador] Foreign Relations

2008-12-25 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Thu, Dec 25, 2008 at 2:11 PM, Benjamin Schultz wrote: > H. Ambassador PerlNomic Partnership, please set the recognition switch for > DiploNomic. I'm not convinced that DiploNomic is a nomic. A game that doesn't say its rules CAN be changed is typically assumed to have an unchangeable ruleset.

Re: DIS: Re: [s-b] BUS: BF joust begins!

2008-12-26 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 2:48 AM, Roger Hicks wrote: > It is not necessary to specify a chord when sending a public message. > However, just in case the rules have changed while I wasn't looking: > c# diminished. Proto: each public message may include a musical score to which its text can be sung,

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Conductor] Lead Sheet

2008-12-29 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 4:34 PM, Charles Schaefer wrote: > 2008/12/29, Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com: >> >> Weekly gains (Mon 29 Dec) >> - >> >> weekly duties: >> Sgeo (Notary) > > > I'm the Notary,

DIS: Re: BUS: Ciao

2008-12-29 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 6:01 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: > It's > ambiguous whether "deregistration" or "degregistration" was meant, so > the last paragraph of Rule 2197 prevents it from having any effect > (contract-related or otherwise). Gratuitous argument: R101 takes precedence over R2197 (and the

Re: DIS: Fwd: Game thing [blatant advertising]

2008-12-31 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 5:37 PM, Elliott Hird wrote: >> This will likely become either an Agoran contest, I object.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2311 assigned to Goethe

2009-01-05 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Elliott Hird wrote: > Confusing. I have things that are like rests but don't always behave > like rests...? But that still are rests? No, you have Rests but the rules CANNOT prevent you from spending Notes.

DIS: Re: BUS: PBA escape

2009-01-07 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 7:03 PM, Alex Smith wrote: > I PBA-withdraw as many A Credits as possible. > I PBA-withdraw as many A# Credits as possible. > I PBA-withdraw as many B Credits as possible. > I PBA-withdraw as many C Credits as possible. > I PBA-withdraw as many C# Credits as possible. > I PB

DIS: Re: BUS: PBA, milling

2009-01-07 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 10:45 PM, The PerlNomic Partnership wrote: > The PNP withdraws one 3 crop from the PBA for ^14. > The PNP withdraws one 7 crop from the PBA for ^14. > Using a Division Mill, the PNP mills 3 / 7 = 2. > The PNP deposits one 2 crop into the PBA to gain ^33. > The PNP withdraws

DIS: Re: BUS: RBoA Motion

2009-01-07 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 1:09 PM, Taral wrote: > I disapprove this motion for being insufficiently specific. I have my > doubts as to its validity to begin with. How specific could it be? By the time it's resolved, the PBA's rates and holdings will almost certainly have changed.

DIS: AAA non-report

2009-01-07 Thread Geoffrey Spear
AAA Non-Secretary's non-report Crop/WRV Holdings Player 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 X WRV 0x44 0 0 0 6 0 7 1 0 1 0 0 2 AFO 41 35 1 0 3 0 3 41 11 31 5 0 ais52

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: bah

2009-01-07 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 2:57 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > For the record, I don't consider probing programs in legal BF to be > attacks... even with automated submissions. That's part of the fun. > I'd frown on XSS or directory hunting etc. though I think the setup > is pretty ok there. I'm mostly an

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Prerogatives (was: Re: Speaker)

2009-01-07 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 8:13 PM, Sgeo wrote: > I think we need to wait until the CFJs regarding recent win attempts > are resolved. ais523 is the Speaker unless eir earliest win attempts failed, and I'm pretty sure eir MwoP was ratified by now. The only players who have borne the title longer are

DIS: Re: BUS: It's all in the timing

2009-01-08 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 9:49 PM, comex wrote: > I intend to appeal this judgement with two support. > Arguments: This deserves a REASSIGN under the corruptive self-interest clause. My scam's success hinges entirely on whether preemptive objections work, whether Goethe's scam worked is irrelevant t

Re: DIS: Proto: Committees

2009-01-08 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 9:20 AM, Elliott Hird wrote: > If you're gonna do that, pick _one_ bank... IIB plz kthx

Re: DIS: Proto: A radical inquiry CFJ change

2009-01-08 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 11:55 AM, Ed Murphy wrote: > As long as you're copying Oracularities from 4E B, why not also copy the > way they take effect when the case can no longer be appealed? Oracularities were originally just Proposals tied to a Question, which were automatically destroyed if the A

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: A trivial paradox?

2009-01-08 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 3:53 PM, Charles Schaefer wrote: > He just can't Dance a Powerful Dance to the business list. It's kind of hard > to dance to (on) a public forum anyway. Agora's scope is not limited to its fora. Anyone who's ever seen me dance will vote FOR this proposal, and immediately

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [IADoP] Conductor election

2009-01-08 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 9:08 PM, Benjamin Schultz wrote: > > On Dec 22, 2008, at 8:48 AM, Geoffrey Spear wrote: > >> This message serves to initiate the Agoran Decision to choose the >> holder of the Conductor office. The eligible voters are the active >> players, the

DIS: Re: BUS: New Year's Sweep I

2009-01-09 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 11:19 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > I submit the following proposal, Durn Furriners, Power-2: I'm going to treat this as an AI-1 proposal with the title "Durn Furriners, Power-2" :P

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [SoA] catchup

2009-01-10 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 12:20 AM, Taral wrote: > On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 1:22 PM, Geoffrey Spear wrote: >> I create the following crops in Taral's possession: X X 8 2 4 X 6 8 X 4 5 6 >> 1 8 > > O.o I like this contestmaster. It's entirely possible you just l

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [SoA] catchup

2009-01-10 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Taral wrote: > On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 5:51 AM, Geoffrey Spear wrote: >> It's entirely possible you just like my perl interpreter and the >> people at Apple who compiled it without setting a good value for >> RANDBITS. > > That&#x

DIS: Re: BUS: PBA non-report

2009-01-12 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 4:39 AM, Alex Smith wrote: > When the backing document for props was decontractised by proposal (N.B. > we since altered the gamestate to what would have happened if it wasn't, > but the change nevertheless occurred), props continued to be tracked > informally: they were re

DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2312 judged GUILTY / SILENCE (3) by OscarMeyr

2009-01-12 Thread Geoffrey Spear
> Accordingly, I find Defendant root GUILTY and sentence the ninny to > SILENCE of 3 Rests, one for each upheld NoV. I'm treating this as creating 1 Rest in root's possession; I believe R1504 is sufficiently unambiguous in stating that a number equal to the breached rule's power is created, so eve

DIS: Re: BUS: Farming

2009-01-12 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 7:23 PM, Charles Reiss wrote: > I PBA-withdraw 2 7 crops. > > I mill 7 + 3 = X. > I mill 8 - 9 = X. > I mill 8 - 9 = X. > I mill 4 * 8 = X. > I mill 7 / 4 = X. > I mill 7 / 4 = X. > I mill 7 / 4 = X. The PBA had no 7 crops, but you had enough for this all to work when you d

DIS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 6051-6055

2009-01-12 Thread Geoffrey Spear
> 6051 D 1 2.0 Goethe Durn Furriners FOR > 6052 D 1 2.0 Murphy Easier hermitage FOR > 6053 D 2 3.0 Murphy Committees AGAINST > 6054 D 1 2.0 Wooble Fix SILENCE FOR > 6055 O 0 1.0 Wooble [Anarchist] Repeal The Repeal-o-Matic FOR * 3

DIS: Re: BUS: Report NoVs

2009-01-15 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 2:28 AM, Ed Murphy wrote: > I contest this. The office of Historian was repealed by Proposal 6018 > on December 22. Does the fact that the portion of the IADoP's report listing you as holding the office the last time I published it mean the office still exists? Either wa

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Taking the plunge

2009-01-15 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 2:42 AM, Ed Murphy wrote: > http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/notes.php (now includes rank) I think this is showing every case as disinterested at the moment, unless I'm reading it wrong. Of course, I'm still doing all the conducting manually at the moment anyway.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2330 assigned to Wooble

2009-01-16 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 11:50 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > I'm certainly not appealing, because if this isn't exactly my own opinion, > it's pretty darn close. But my question is: does this mean that the > "4 days" (time before you can start performing the action) isn't a time > limit of any kind? A

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2330 assigned to Wooble

2009-01-16 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Alex Smith wrote: > On Fri, 2009-01-16 at 10:12 -0500, Geoffrey Spear wrote: >> Now, does R1728 base the time of a future event upon the time of >> another event? Arguably, yes. When you announce your intent to >> perform a dependent act

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2330 assigned to Wooble

2009-01-16 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 1:17 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > By the way, in just reading about error ratings on concurring opinions, > I can't tell if 1 is supposed to be good and 99 bad or vice versa? Considering it doesn't do anything at all, it probably doesn't matter. It's been in the rule for over

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