On Wed, 10 Jun 2009, Alex Smith wrote:
> Do it via a rule, rather than having the proposal floating around; I
> don't think a proposal can take effect at a time other than when it's
> adopted unless it can take predecence over a power-3 rule.
Er, it's something I've always been meaning to try. O
On Wed, 2009-06-10 at 13:42 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Jun 2009, Benjamin Caplan wrote:
> > Geoffrey Spear wrote:
> >> On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> >>> Quazie's probably chomping at the bit, so I'll say I planned to have the
> >>> next draft of Cards circulating
On Wed, 10 Jun 2009, Benjamin Caplan wrote:
> Geoffrey Spear wrote:
>> On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
>>> Quazie's probably chomping at the bit, so I'll say I planned to have the
>>> next draft of Cards circulating round about the 15th. �(remember idea is
>>> to not have them
Geoffrey Spear wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
>> Quazie's probably chomping at the bit, so I'll say I planned to have the
>> next draft of Cards circulating round about the 15th. �(remember idea is
>> to not have them go through until after the Birthday). �-G.
>
> We
On Wed, 2009-06-10 at 12:39 -0700, Ed Murphy wrote:
> ais523 wrote:
>
> > IMO, Distributability hasn't been anywhere near as much of a disaster as
> > Committees were. My sense about it at the moment is that the idea is
> > worthwhile but the implementation is lacking; I'm not entirely sure how
>
ais523 wrote:
> IMO, Distributability hasn't been anywhere near as much of a disaster as
> Committees were. My sense about it at the moment is that the idea is
> worthwhile but the implementation is lacking; I'm not entirely sure how
> best to improve it, though. (Someone invent Distrib-u-matics a
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> Quazie's probably chomping at the bit, so I'll say I planned to have the
> next draft of Cards circulating round about the 15th. (remember idea is
> to not have them go through until after the Birthday). -G.
We just have to keep distributabil
On Wed, 10 Jun 2009, Alex Smith wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-06-09 at 22:24 -0500, Aaron Goldfein wrote:
>> On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 10:21 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
>>> And yes, I know that supporting this pledge doesn't automatically mean
>>> voting for the rollback, but the pledge was associated with the re
On Tue, 2009-06-09 at 22:24 -0500, Aaron Goldfein wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 10:21 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> > And yes, I know that supporting this pledge doesn't automatically mean
> > voting for the rollback, but the pledge was associated with the repeal.
>
> Hey, I voted against the distribu
Kyle Marek-Spartz wrote:
> I join this contract. If at any point in the future distributability
> is modified with a proposal whose II > 1, I leave this pledge.
The second sentence of this won't work unless Time Travel passes before
the hypothetical proposal.
On Tue, 9 Jun 2009, Sean Hunt wrote:
> Kerim Aydin wrote:
>> There's two proposals: last week's had pay and w/o1O, and got rid of
>> W3S. Voting period ended on that. Quick count looks like it passed
>> but it's close and I may have missed a vote or two. This week's
>> proposal has all three m
Kerim Aydin wrote:
> There's two proposals: last week's had pay and w/o1O, and got rid of
> W3S. Voting period ended on that. Quick count looks like it passed
> but it's close and I may have missed a vote or two. This week's
> proposal has all three methods; the pledge now makes the W3S the s
On Wed, 10 Jun 2009, Paul VanKoughnett wrote:
>> Actually, a proposal to do that just had its voting period end! I don't
>> know if it passed, I'm (obviously) hoping it did. It does have the
>> problems you mentioned with an objector holding it up indefinitely...
>> that's why the other method i
On Tue, 9 Jun 2009, Ed Murphy wrote:
> Pavitra wrote:
>> I'm under the impression that distributability is essentially dead in
>> the water -- people may generally disagree on where to go next, but I do
>> think that by-announcement is at least clearly not worse than
>> with-3-support.
>
> The las
On Tue, 9 Jun 2009, Aaron Goldfein wrote:
>> The money barrier is enough to make sure that people read things at
>> least twice before paying to distribute it, maybe? -G.
>
> Perhaps, but it's also a barrier to prevent people from submitting
> proposals at all.
Sure. If you don't have something
> Actually, a proposal to do that just had its voting period end! I don't
> know if it passed, I'm (obviously) hoping it did. It does have the
> problems you mentioned with an objector holding it up indefinitely...
> that's why the other method is "pay a note to make it distributable."
> There's
Pavitra wrote:
> I'm under the impression that distributability is essentially dead in
> the water -- people may generally disagree on where to go next, but I do
> think that by-announcement is at least clearly not worse than
> with-3-support.
The last time I remember distributability working mor
> The money barrier is enough to make sure that people read things at
> least twice before paying to distribute it, maybe? -G.
Perhaps, but it's also a barrier to prevent people from submitting
proposals at all.
Pavitra wrote:
> Aaron Goldfein wrote:
>> On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 7:18 PM, Ed Murphy wrote:
>>> Wooble wrote:
>>>
I haven't been around for nearly that long, but I always assumed it
was a Drew Carey reference.
>>> It was.
>>>
>>>
>> But he's the Assistant Director of Personnel, not the As
On Wed, 10 Jun 2009, Paul VanKoughnett wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 12:21 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, 10 Jun 2009, Paul VanKoughnett wrote:
>>> I join this pledge. Sorry, G.
>>
>> Actually, with all the annoying support messages it's not such a bad
>> temporary solution come to think
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 12:21 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
>
> On Wed, 10 Jun 2009, Paul VanKoughnett wrote:
>> I join this pledge. Sorry, G.
>
> Actually, with all the annoying support messages it's not such a bad
> temporary solution come to think of it; what I'm objecting to is the
> Yally's accompan
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 10:21 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
>
> On Wed, 10 Jun 2009, Paul VanKoughnett wrote:
>> I join this pledge. Sorry, G.
>
> Actually, with all the annoying support messages it's not such a bad
> temporary solution come to think of it; what I'm objecting to is the
> Yally's accompany
On Wed, 10 Jun 2009, Elliott Hird wrote:
> G o e t h e ?
I'm just visiting from B.
G o e t h e ?
On 2009-06-10, Kerim Aydin wrote:
>
> On Tue, 9 Jun 2009, Benjamin Caplan wrote:
>> Kerim Aydin wrote:
>>> On Tue, 9 Jun 2009, Sean Hunt wrote:
Any player CAN act on behalf of any party to this pledge to support an
intent to make a proposal Distributable.
>>>
>>> Yes, I ha
On Tue, 9 Jun 2009, Benjamin Caplan wrote:
> Kerim Aydin wrote:
>> On Tue, 9 Jun 2009, Sean Hunt wrote:
>>> Any player CAN act on behalf of any party to this pledge to support an
>>> intent to make a proposal Distributable.
>>
>> Yes, I had wondered how long it would take to ZOOP the Support into
Kerim Aydin wrote:
> On Tue, 9 Jun 2009, Sean Hunt wrote:
>> Any player CAN act on behalf of any party to this pledge to support an
>> intent to make a proposal Distributable.
>
> Yes, I had wondered how long it would take to ZOOP the Support into
> meaningless. Ah, present-day agora... every tim
On Tue, 9 Jun 2009, Sean Hunt wrote:
> Any player CAN act on behalf of any party to this pledge to support an
> intent to make a proposal Distributable.
Yes, I had wondered how long it would take to ZOOP the Support into
meaningless. Ah, present-day agora... every time I think some mob of
idiots
Aaron Goldfein wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 7:18 PM, Ed Murphy wrote:
>> Wooble wrote:
>>
>>> I haven't been around for nearly that long, but I always assumed it
>>> was a Drew Carey reference.
>>
>> It was.
>>
>>
>
> But he's the Assistant Director of Personnel, not the Associate
> Director of
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 7:18 PM, Ed Murphy wrote:
> Wooble wrote:
>
>> I haven't been around for nearly that long, but I always assumed it
>> was a Drew Carey reference.
>
> It was.
>
>
But he's the Assistant Director of Personnel, not the Associate
Director of Personnel, and certainly not the *Int
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 1:26 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
>
> I submit the following proposal, 'Transition Team', AI-2 please:
>
> Word simplifications welcome.
>
>
>
> Amend Rule 1006 by appending the following paragraph:
>
>
Wooble wrote:
> I haven't been around for nearly that long, but I always assumed it
> was a Drew Carey reference.
It was.
2009/6/10 Paul VanKoughnett :
> My family lives in Korea
Which o-
> and is moving to the Philippines in about 2 weeks.
South, then.
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 6:17 AM, Elliott
Hird wrote:
> 2009/6/9 Benjamin Caplan :
>> Roll call time?
>>
>> I'm from the USA. If we're also counting less "official" governments,
>> then (in rough order of activity) also Agora, Aerica, Normish,
>> Perlnomic, and Atnomic.
>>
>> I assume there's someon
2009/6/9 Benjamin Caplan :
> Roll call time?
>
> I'm from the USA. If we're also counting less "official" governments,
> then (in rough order of activity) also Agora, Aerica, Normish,
> Perlnomic, and Atnomic.
>
> I assume there's someone here from Canada (the country)?
England.
2009/6/9 Kerim Aydin :
> For the other, isn't there something in the works already to make it
> that the IADoP CAN initiate an election by announcement if required
> by eir job? I could've sworn I saw a proposal go through with that.
> If it's not there I was assuming it was.
>
Someone messed up w
On Tue, 9 Jun 2009, Alex Smith wrote:
> Also, intent to resign? That could be confused with a dependent action
> intent rather easily, I imagine. Also, SHALL do something that requires
> support is nasty (either make it CAN and SHALL, or make it SHOULD).
I suppose "can make a designee the officeh
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Geoffrey Spear wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 4:06 PM, Benjamin
> Caplan wrote:
> > I assume there's someone here from Canada (the country)?
>
> I'm pretty sure beavers can't communicate in English via email.
>
AHEM. We Canadians are not all beavers.
We are awe
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 4:06 PM, Benjamin
Caplan wrote:
> I assume there's someone here from Canada (the country)?
I'm pretty sure beavers can't communicate in English via email.
On Tue, 2009-06-09 at 09:26 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> I submit the following proposal, 'Transition Team', AI-2 please:
>
> Word simplifications welcome.
>
>
>
> Amend Rule 1006 by appending the following paragraph:
>
2009/6/9 Benjamin Caplan :
> Kerim Aydin wrote:
>> And there's at least two countries' residents
>> involved in the game to my knowledge.
>
> Roll call time?
>
> I'm from the USA. If we're also counting less "official" governments,
> then (in rough order of activity) also Agor
Kerim Aydin wrote:
> And there's at least two countries' residents
> involved in the game to my knowledge.
Roll call time?
I'm from the USA. If we're also counting less "official" governments,
then (in rough order of activity) also Agora, Aerica, Normish,
Perlnomic, and Atn
On Tue, 9 Jun 2009, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote:
> 2009/6/9 Benjamin Caplan :
>> Kerim Aydin wrote:
>>> holder of the office by announcement; the ADoP SHALL initiate an
>>> election for the office asap after such an office change.
>>
>> IADoP not ADoP. Also, why SHALL? Make it "any player CAN by
>
On Tue, 9 Jun 2009, Geoffrey Spear wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 1:29 PM, Benjamin
> Caplan wrote:
>> I think it used to be ADoP -- would one of the older players explain why
>> it changed?
>
> I haven't been around for nearly that long, but I always assumed it
> was a Drew Carey reference.
Whe
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 1:29 PM, Benjamin
Caplan wrote:
> I think it used to be ADoP -- would one of the older players explain why
> it changed?
I haven't been around for nearly that long, but I always assumed it
was a Drew Carey reference.
Jonatan Kilhamn wrote:
> 2009/6/9 Benjamin Caplan :
>> Kerim Aydin wrote:
>>> � �holder of the office by announcement; the ADoP SHALL initiate an
>>> � �election for the office asap after such an office change.
>>
>> IADoP not ADoP. Also, why SHALL? Make it "any player CAN by
>> announcement"; that
2009/6/9 Benjamin Caplan :
> Kerim Aydin wrote:
>> holder of the office by announcement; the ADoP SHALL initiate an
>> election for the office asap after such an office change.
>
> IADoP not ADoP. Also, why SHALL? Make it "any player CAN by
> announcement"; that way, an election starts if and
Kerim Aydin wrote:
>holder of the office by announcement; the ADoP SHALL initiate an
>election for the office asap after such an office change.
IADoP not ADoP. Also, why SHALL? Make it "any player CAN by
announcement"; that way, an election starts if and only if the
appointment is in som
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