DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] Problems

2019-08-20 Thread James Cook
On Mon, 19 Aug 2019 at 04:02, Aris Merchant wrote: > On Sat, Aug 10, 2019 at 12:46 PM Aris Merchant > wrote: > > > > This is entire message is OOC. > > > > I'm not doing very well. I've been having both physical health problems and > > fairly serious mental health problems, in addition to a bunch

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] Rule I guess

2019-08-19 Thread Rebecca
I've already been eliminated, I was just joking pretty much On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 3:17 PM Aris Merchant < thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > It is held in abeyance from its inception to 48 hours after the end of > the suspension period. You can just act as if it hasn't started till >

DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] Rule I guess

2019-08-18 Thread Aris Merchant
It is held in abeyance from its inception to 48 hours after the end of the suspension period. You can just act as if it hasn't started till then. -Aris On Sun, Aug 18, 2019 at 10:09 PM Rebecca wrote: > > But does tolling mean to stop the clock or to simply suspend the effects of > the eliminatio

DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] Problems

2019-08-13 Thread Kerim Aydin
Take care Aris, I've found over time that sometimes Agora is a good way to occupy my mind for my health, but sometimes a person just needs a darned break, too. Even if the tournament stops right here the entries have been quite enjoyable, so thank you for running it. -G. On Sat, Aug 10, 2019 at

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] Penalty limmericks

2019-08-11 Thread James Cook
On Sun., Aug. 11, 2019, 13:26 Jason Cobb, wrote: > On 8/11/19 4:06 PM, James Cook wrote: > > This rule is dedicated to JUSTICA THE REASONABLE, ENFORCER OF THE > > RULES: please be assigned that new title, and may Proglet and every > > other Fugitive of the Old Law be cursed to sin again, that You

DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] Penalty limmericks

2019-08-11 Thread Jason Cobb
On 8/11/19 4:06 PM, James Cook wrote: This rule is dedicated to JUSTICA THE REASONABLE, ENFORCER OF THE RULES: please be assigned that new title, and may Proglet and every other Fugitive of the Old Law be cursed to sin again, that Your Blotter may smite them under the current law. Just to be cl

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] Penalty limmericks

2019-08-11 Thread Jason Cobb
On 8/11/19 4:09 PM, James Cook wrote: On Sun, 11 Aug 2019 at 20:06, Jason Cobb wrote: On 8/11/19 3:52 PM, James Cook wrote: Praise THE AGORAN SPIRIT OF THE GAME. So, my previous rule was INVALID. However, that doesn't invalidate Titles and Continual Worship, so I'm not sure if that means that

DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] Penalty limmericks

2019-08-11 Thread James Cook
On Sun, 11 Aug 2019 at 20:06, Jason Cobb wrote: > > On 8/11/19 3:52 PM, James Cook wrote: > > Praise THE AGORAN SPIRIT OF THE GAME. > > So, my previous rule was INVALID. However, that doesn't invalidate > Titles and Continual Worship, so I'm not sure if that means that my new > AGORAN GOD (STALLMA

DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] Rituals

2019-08-11 Thread Jason Cobb
On 8/11/19 4:02 PM, Reuben Staley wrote: I submit that this rule is INVALID; it fails to honor ASCIIUS and CANTUS. Whoops, you're right. They were on my list, but I guess I somehow missed them. -- Jason Cobb

DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] Problems

2019-08-10 Thread Jason Cobb
On 8/10/19 3:46 PM, Aris Merchant wrote: This is entire message is OOC. I'm not doing very well. I've been having both physical health problems and fairly serious mental health problems, in addition to a bunch of real life responsibilities (TBH, I'm not sure I can even get to all of those at the

DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] Problems

2019-08-10 Thread Rebecca
we agoran players don't converse about personal matters very often but for what it's worth as whatever kind of friend i am (maybe more accurately an Agoran Enemy ;) ) I wish you the very best in your real life, and please don't let us make our stuff make you feel guilty in any way. it's just a sill

DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] Problems

2019-08-10 Thread Nich Evans
On 8/10/19 2:46 PM, Aris Merchant wrote: This is entire message is OOC. I'm not doing very well. I've been having both physical health problems and fairly serious mental health problems, in addition to a bunch of real life responsibilities (TBH, I'm not sure I can even get to all of those at the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [frc] the riches of our temple shall accumulate

2019-08-08 Thread Reuben Staley
On 8/8/19 8:32 PM, Jason Cobb wrote: On 8/8/19 10:24 PM, Rebecca wrote: Sorry, to praise a new god E praised UNICODE in the final paragraph. Indeed. UNICODE's name was not placed at the end of the list, which I assume is what confused you, R. Lee. -- Trigon

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [frc] the riches of our temple shall accumulate

2019-08-08 Thread Jason Cobb
On 8/8/19 10:24 PM, Rebecca wrote: Sorry, to praise a new god E praised UNICODE in the final paragraph. -- Jason Cobb

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [frc] the riches of our temple shall accumulate

2019-08-08 Thread Rebecca
I humbly submit that by Jason Cobb's previous arguments, that rule was also invalid, and if it was valid, G's rule is invalid for failing to dedicate itself to a new god. On Fri, Aug 9, 2019 at 12:00 PM Reuben Staley wrote: > I humbly submit that this rule is, in fact, valid, as the first mentio

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [frc] the riches of our temple shall accumulate

2019-08-08 Thread Rebecca
Sorry, to praise a new god On Fri, Aug 9, 2019 at 12:24 PM Rebecca wrote: > > > On Fri, Aug 9, 2019 at 12:24 PM Rebecca wrote: > >> I humbly submit that by Jason Cobb's previous arguments, that rule was >> also invalid, and if it was valid, G's rule is invalid for failing to >> dedicate itself

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [frc] the riches of our temple shall accumulate

2019-08-08 Thread Rebecca
On Fri, Aug 9, 2019 at 12:24 PM Rebecca wrote: > I humbly submit that by Jason Cobb's previous arguments, that rule was > also invalid, and if it was valid, G's rule is invalid for failing to > dedicate itself to a new god. > > On Fri, Aug 9, 2019 at 12:00 PM Reuben Staley > wrote: > >> I humbly

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [frc] the riches of our temple shall accumulate

2019-08-08 Thread Reuben Staley
I humbly submit that this rule is, in fact, valid, as the first mention of ERIS was actually in nch's rule here: https://www.mail-archive.com/agora-business@agoranomic.org/msg34767.html On 8/8/19 6:30 PM, Rebecca wrote: I humbly submit this rule is invalid. It is dedicated to ERIS, who was men

DIS: Re: BUS: [frc] the riches of our temple shall accumulate

2019-08-08 Thread Rebecca
I humbly submit this rule is invalid. It is dedicated to ERIS, who was mentioned the first time in this message (in a valid rule). But it is specifically required that dedications must be to previously mentioned GODS On Thu, Aug 8, 2019 at 11:51 PM Kerim Aydin wrote: > > I submit myself to the A

DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] Pantheonics

2019-08-07 Thread Nich Evans
Bah, sent this without the sacrifice. Will have to correct tomorrow. On Wed, Aug 7, 2019, 8:37 PM Nich Evans wrote: > I submit myself to the Agoran Gods! > > I submit the following rule to the contest: > > { > > I dedicate this rule to the LORD. As all gods are jealous, new rules > cannot be cre

DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] Fallen Competitors

2019-08-05 Thread Aris Merchant
On Mon, Aug 5, 2019 at 12:01 PM Jason Cobb wrote: > > This rule is dedicated to the AGORAN SPIRIT OF THE GAME. > > > Please let it be enacted that, after some contestants have been > eliminated, each message in which a rule enacted shall contain praise to > at least one eliminated contestant; the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] Patron Gods

2019-08-04 Thread James Cook
On Mon, 5 Aug 2019 at 04:55, Aris Merchant wrote: > > On Sun, Aug 4, 2019 at 9:51 PM James Cook wrote: > > > On Sun, 4 Aug 2019 at 14:53, Jason Cobb wrote: > > > On 8/4/19 2:57 AM, James Cook wrote: > > > > I submit myself to the Agoran Gods! I submit the following rule to the > > > > contest: >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] Patron Gods

2019-08-04 Thread Aris Merchant
On Sun, Aug 4, 2019 at 9:51 PM James Cook wrote: > On Sun, 4 Aug 2019 at 14:53, Jason Cobb wrote: > > On 8/4/19 2:57 AM, James Cook wrote: > > > I submit myself to the Agoran Gods! I submit the following rule to the > > > contest: > > > > > > { > > > > > > I dedicate this rule to ARCAS. > > > >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] Patron Gods

2019-08-04 Thread James Cook
On Sun, 4 Aug 2019 at 14:53, Jason Cobb wrote: > On 8/4/19 2:57 AM, James Cook wrote: > > I submit myself to the Agoran Gods! I submit the following rule to the > > contest: > > > > { > > > > I dedicate this rule to ARCAS. > > > > Every new rule must be dedicated to exactly one Agoran God, called

DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] Burnt Offerings

2019-08-04 Thread Jason Cobb
On 8/4/19 2:53 PM, Reuben Staley wrote: This rule is dedicated to INTERCAL, the most esoteric of all the gods. Fie on thee, 0x44, thou fugitive! To each new fantasy rule, please allow a file to be attached, which file shall contain the ASCII art of exactly one animal which shall be sacrificed.

DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] Politeness

2019-08-04 Thread Jason Cobb
On 8/4/19 11:29 AM, Jason Cobb wrote: Each worshiper must understand that only the AGORAN GODS, and, by extensions, their PHYSICAL EMBODIMENT, Eir Supreme Eminence, and, that in order to satisfy the AGORAN GODS enough to enforce their rules, each Novel Paragraph must once contain the word "PLEA

DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] Patron Gods

2019-08-04 Thread Jason Cobb
On 8/4/19 2:57 AM, James Cook wrote: I submit myself to the Agoran Gods! I submit the following rule to the contest: { I dedicate this rule to ARCAS. Every new rule must be dedicated to exactly one Agoran God, called the rule's Patron God. The Patron God must have been mentioned in a previous

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] I submit myself to the Agoran Gods!

2019-08-03 Thread James Cook
On Sun, 4 Aug 2019 at 04:33, Jason Cobb wrote: > > On 8/4/19 12:24 AM, Rebecca wrote: > > I submit myself to the Agoran Gods! I join the FRC and create the following > > rule > > > > O Hark, the commandments of the LORD are upon us! The LORD demanding the > > respect he deserves, the LORD hereby d

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] Sustained Worship

2019-08-03 Thread Jason Cobb
On 8/4/19 12:56 AM, Jason Cobb wrote: [This is not a challenge, and is not sent to the public forum] By my reading, by this rule each contest message must contain one message _per Agoran God_. Is there a defined set of Agoran Gods anywhere? Because if not, there might be an issue. Never mi

DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] Sustained Worship

2019-08-03 Thread Jason Cobb
On 8/4/19 12:49 AM, Reuben Staley wrote: I create the following Fantasy Rule: { The final paragraph of each contest message shall contain a message of praise to each Agoran God mentioned previously in a contest message, plus one not mentioned previously. } [This is not a challenge, and is no

DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] I submit myself to the Agoran Gods!

2019-08-03 Thread Jason Cobb
On 8/4/19 12:24 AM, Rebecca wrote: I submit myself to the Agoran Gods! I join the FRC and create the following rule O Hark, the commandments of the LORD are upon us! The LORD demanding the respect he deserves, the LORD hereby decrees that all references to Agoran Gods shall refer to em in ALL CA

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] Striking Out

2018-07-18 Thread David Nicol
On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 8:12 PM Alex Smith wrote: > > Come to think of it, "Champion by Championship" is an "artless redundancy." Very practical things, those. -- "At this point, given the limited available data, certainty about only a very small number of things can be achieved." -- Plato, a

DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] Striking Out

2018-07-17 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
Thank you for running a great tournament! On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 9:36 PM Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > Oh yes, and: > > 1t's 0v3r s0 1 haz t4|<3n 0ff mi r0b3s T41s r00l 1nva11d f001. > > [ooc: thank you all] > > On Mon, 16 Jul 2018, Aris Merchant wrote: > > I submit the following rule: > > > > I'd l

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] Striking Out

2018-07-17 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
I think it would be appropriate. On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 9:31 PM Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > I'm pretty sure it's the first *Birthday* tournament/contest win if that's > a distinction worth making. The previous ones were more like the "free > tournaments" rule now, and played out over a longer tim

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] Striking Out

2018-07-16 Thread Kerim Aydin
I'm pretty sure it's the first *Birthday* tournament/contest win if that's a distinction worth making. The previous ones were more like the "free tournaments" rule now, and played out over a longer time IIRC, less like an event. the inspiration for the "birthday" tournament was the wholly-unof

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] Striking Out

2018-07-16 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
I think I am going to take the approach of renaming it all as a contest. On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 9:16 PM Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > I'll leave it up the the herald, but "Tournaments" are basically synonymous > with "championship" (they used to be called "championship contests"). > But "championshi

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] Striking Out

2018-07-16 Thread Kerim Aydin
I'll leave it up the the herald, but "Tournaments" are basically synonymous with "championship" (they used to be called "championship contests"). But "championship" is completely unintuitive so I'd rename em all to tournament or maybe the more historically-used "contest"? On Mon, 16 Jul 2018, A

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] Striking Out

2018-07-16 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
That sounds like an interesting mechanism to try to recreate. On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 9:12 PM Alex Smith wrote: > > On Mon, 2018-07-16 at 18:06 -0700, Aris Merchant wrote: > > Champions by Tournament, huh. I believe that's a new one. > > It's a very similar mechanism to Championship (although admi

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] Striking Out

2018-07-16 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
It is, but I couldn't think of something better. On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 9:07 PM Aris Merchant wrote: > > Champions by Tournament, huh. I believe that's a new one. > > -Aris > On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 6:03 PM Publius Scribonius Scholasticus > wrote: > > > > Okay, that makes sense. > > > > As Heral

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] Striking Out

2018-07-16 Thread Alex Smith
On Mon, 2018-07-16 at 18:06 -0700, Aris Merchant wrote: > Champions by Tournament, huh. I believe that's a new one. It's a very similar mechanism to Championship (although admittedly one of the Championship wins was a scam). It may be different enough to list it separately, though. Come to think

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] Striking Out

2018-07-16 Thread Aris Merchant
Champions by Tournament, huh. I believe that's a new one. -Aris On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 6:03 PM Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: > > Okay, that makes sense. > > As Herald, I grant Aris and myself the patent title Champion. > On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 8:58 PM Aris Merchant > wrote: > > > > Re

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] Striking Out

2018-07-16 Thread Aris Merchant
Regulations 4 and 5 suggest that strikes for invalidity are automatic. -Aris On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 5:49 PM Publius Scribonius Scholasticus < p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com> wrote: > G., could you declare a strike here? I think you need to before everything > ends. > > Publius Scribon

DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] Striking Out

2018-07-16 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
G., could you declare a strike here? I think you need to before everything ends. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 7:21 PM Aris Merchant wrote: > > I submit the following rule: > > I'd like to thank the court for it's service. This tournament was amazing. > The play was

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] An Ambassadorial Consideration

2018-07-15 Thread Kerim Aydin
Assess this, declare that, dude can't take a weekend anymore Seriously though, maybe I should judge those CFJs on whether the tournament even exists first? Sorry about not getting to those, maybe tonight ( -7:00 time), definitely by tomorrow. On Sun, 15 Jul 2018, Publius Scribonius Schola

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] An Ambassadorial Consideration

2018-07-15 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
G., could you declare the winners, so that I may award the appropriate patent titles? On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 3:19 PM Aris Merchant wrote: > > It probably shouldn't have been. My thinking was that tournament is only > really supposed to last a few weeks (there's a SHOULD to that effect). If > it g

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] An Ambassadorial Consideration

2018-07-15 Thread Aris Merchant
It probably shouldn't have been. My thinking was that tournament is only really supposed to last a few weeks (there's a SHOULD to that effect). If it goes for three months, it's way overtime, perhaps because it's broken or no one is interested enough to complete the goal condition. Under those circ

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] An Ambassadorial Consideration

2018-07-15 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
Oh, I missed that rule. One question: Why was the 3-month time limit included? On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 3:00 PM Aris Merchant wrote: > > R2464, "Tournaments": "If a winner of a tournament is determined within > within 3 months of its initiation, that person or persons win the game, > otherwise the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] An Ambassadorial Consideration

2018-07-15 Thread Aris Merchant
R2464, "Tournaments": "If a winner of a tournament is determined within within 3 months of its initiation, that person or persons win the game, otherwise the tournament concludes with no winner." Who do you think wrote the latest version of the tournament rules. :) -Aris On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] An Ambassadorial Consideration

2018-07-15 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
I don't think that you get a win from the Birthday Tournament under the current rules. On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 2:52 PM Aris Merchant wrote: > > I agree about the short times as well. Sorry everyone. Now we just have to > see who wins on points... > > If I would be appointed Speaker, I request that

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] An Ambassadorial Consideration

2018-07-15 Thread Aris Merchant
I agree about the short times as well. Sorry everyone. Now we just have to see who wins on points... If I would be appointed Speaker, I request that the appointment be deferred until after the PM election. -Aris On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 9:42 AM Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > Yah sorry about that, the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] An Ambassadorial Consideration

2018-07-15 Thread Kerim Aydin
Yah sorry about that, the first draft regs used original FRC timing which seemed far too long - holiday tournaments have sometimes worked best as blitz versions but this was too short, somewhere in the middle would have been best. On Sun, 15 Jul 2018, Rebecca wrote: > damn time limits!! thi

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] An Ambassadorial Consideration

2018-07-15 Thread Rebecca
damn time limits!! this would have been more fun with higher participation/longer time but congrats aris. On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 11:05 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: > Yes. That is my third strike. Now, Aris is the only remaining player, > assuming eir argument is ruled VALID and

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] An Ambassadorial Consideration

2018-07-15 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
Yes. That is my third strike. Now, Aris is the only remaining player, assuming eir argument is ruled VALID and e thus wins. On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 8:59 AM Corona wrote: > > > [...] with which Agora would establish relations. > > You mean G.A.N. Agora? > > ~Corona > > On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 1:52

DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] An Ambassadorial Consideration

2018-07-15 Thread Corona
> [...] with which Agora would establish relations. You mean G.A.N. Agora? ~Corona On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 1:52 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus < p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com> wrote: > I submit the below argument on the third docket: > > Your Honor, > > I agree with My Fellow Counse

DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] Docket #3: Attempt #2

2018-07-13 Thread Aris Merchant
OOC: I'd say G.A.N.'s. Otherwise you're dropping number information. The apostrophe makes it feel a lot more acceptable than G.A.N.s would. -Aris On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 5:46 PM Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > Nothing wrong that I see Counselor; VALID. A fine idea Style 1.5. > > OOC grammar question:

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] Docket #3: Attempt #2

2018-07-13 Thread Kerim Aydin
I know it just sounded odd. On Fri, 13 Jul 2018, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: > I was using G.A.N. in those instances as Great and Ancient Nomics. > On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 8:46 PM Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > > > > > Nothing wrong that I see Counselor; VALID. A fine idea Style 1.5. >

DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] Docket #3: Attempt #2

2018-07-13 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
I was using G.A.N. in those instances as Great and Ancient Nomics. On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 8:46 PM Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > Nothing wrong that I see Counselor; VALID. A fine idea Style 1.5. > > OOC grammar question: When the final noun in an acronym that uses full > stops is pluralized: Do yo

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] Docket #3: Attempt #2

2018-07-13 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
Thanks! On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 7:27 PM Aris Merchant wrote: > > Receipt acknowledged. > > -Aris > > On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 4:26 PM Publius Scribonius Scholasticus < > p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Was this received? I didn't receive it. > > On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 6:53 PM Pub

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] Docket #3: Attempt #2

2018-07-13 Thread Aris Merchant
Receipt acknowledged. -Aris On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 4:26 PM Publius Scribonius Scholasticus < p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com> wrote: > Was this received? I didn't receive it. > On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 6:53 PM Publius Scribonius Scholasticus > wrote: > > > > I hereby submit the below argum

DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] Docket #3: Attempt #2

2018-07-13 Thread Reuben Staley
I received it On Fri, Jul 13, 2018, 17:26 Publius Scribonius Scholasticus < p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com> wrote: > Was this received? I didn't receive it. > On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 6:53 PM Publius Scribonius Scholasticus > wrote: > > > > I hereby submit the below argument to the court on

DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] Docket #3: Attempt #2

2018-07-13 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
Was this received? I didn't receive it. On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 6:53 PM Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: > > I hereby submit the below argument to the court on the third docket: > > Your honor, I believe that the court should initiate a discussion of > in what ways the G.A.N. of Agora, th

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] Mantaining Respect for Games and Others

2018-07-13 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Fri, 13 Jul 2018, Kerim Aydin wrote: > Actually, #12 and #20 (by Aris) are suitable different, that I'll address > #12. (correction: #11 by V.J. Rada, not #12. Is this your handwriting, Bernard?)

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] Mantaining Respect for Games and Others

2018-07-13 Thread Kerim Aydin
Actually, #12 and #20 (by Aris) are suitable different, that I'll address #12. Rule #6 is very precise. Counselors must "address each other" in a certain way and everyone must "address each other" with respect. "Us" (unlike "you") is not a form of address - in fact it's the opposite, it's spe

DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] Agoran Values

2018-07-13 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
Just a reminder for everyone, if this is ruled INVALID, Corona and Aris are both eliminated. On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 3:00 AM Aris Merchant wrote: >> Your Honor, I respectfully submit the following argument on Docket #2: > > A model longstanding Nomic is the G.A.N. of Agora, under the auspices > of

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] Mantaining Respect for Games and Others

2018-07-13 Thread Kerim Aydin
Also in the tournament-bug category: I deeply regret not making a 24-hour limit on all challenges, not just impossibility-based ones. I'm tempted (in character) to find some kind of statute-of-limitations appropriate. Be that as it may, I'll opine on our Pronoun Trouble (both in this one and

DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] Mantaining Respect for Games and Others

2018-07-13 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
I believe that this should have been ruled INVALID as the "us" references other Counselors and thus should have referenced them with appropriate respect. Additionally, I ask the court whether INVALID arguments will be counted towards the 10 non-procedural arguments. On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 11:03 AM

DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] Agoran Values

2018-07-13 Thread Kerim Aydin
Counselor, the Court is moved by your arguments (not now, Bernard) and their appeal to "fun" as an underlying human principle (not NOW, Bernard), and therefore finds this VAL... hold on. (what IS it, Bernard?! I'm judging here, you'd better... ok ok I'll read it... where did I say that befor

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] Agoran Values

2018-07-13 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
Thank you! On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 6:05 AM Timon Walshe-Grey wrote: > > "the isqueal purpose of Nomic play". > > -twg > > > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ > > On July 13, 2018 9:53 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus > wrote: > > > > > > > I'm sorry, this is probably there, but I can't find it

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] Agoran Values

2018-07-13 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
"the isqueal purpose of Nomic play". -twg ​​ ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On July 13, 2018 9:53 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: > ​​ > > I'm sorry, this is probably there, but I can't find it. Where is the spelling? > > On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 3:00 AM Aris Merchant > > thoug

DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] Agoran Values

2018-07-13 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
I'm sorry, this is probably there, but I can't find it. Where is the spelling? On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 3:00 AM Aris Merchant wrote: > > Your Honor, I respectfully submit the following argument on Docket #2: > > A model longstanding Nomic is the G.A.N. of Agora, under the auspices > of which we now

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] Resubmission with Corrections

2018-07-12 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 12 Jul 2018, Alex Smith wrote: > On Wed, 2018-07-11 at 21:05 -0400, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: > > The invalid one was the one that I was referencing. As for why I think > > ti can be done after-the-fact, I think that it is different because so > > far, it has been fulfilled

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] Docket 2

2018-07-11 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
No, you don't. That only applies to Docket #1. On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 9:14 PM Rebecca wrote: > > this is patently invalid. forgot everything had to include evidence. > > On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 11:14 AM, Rebecca wrote: > > > Your honour, I submit the following argument to d0ket two: > > This cou

DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] Docket 2

2018-07-11 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
I don't believe that this fulfills the spelling tule as the incorrect spelling falls outside of the body of the argument, as precedent for defining the body of the argument, I present the way that they have been shown in the updates. On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 9:14 PM Rebecca wrote: > > Your honour,

DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] Docket 2

2018-07-11 Thread Rebecca
this is patently invalid. forgot everything had to include evidence. On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 11:14 AM, Rebecca wrote: > Your honour, I submit the following argument to d0ket two: > This court should rule that the purpose of a nomic is to develop into a > perfect game, and nomics therefore should

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] Resubmission with Corrections

2018-07-11 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
A follow-up question to this is which standards we should follow. Additionally, i realized that I think this is invalid because I thought that I was following the evidence rule by referencing previous arguments, but I realized that it said that I must "include" evidence, which I don't believe such

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] Resubmission with Corrections

2018-07-11 Thread Alex Smith
On Wed, 2018-07-11 at 21:05 -0400, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: > The invalid one was the one that I was referencing. As for why I think > ti can be done after-the-fact, I think that it is different because so > far, it has been fulfilled outside of the arguments in a preface, so I > eith

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] Resubmission with Corrections

2018-07-11 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
The invalid one was the one that I was referencing. As for why I think ti can be done after-the-fact, I think that it is different because so far, it has been fulfilled outside of the arguments in a preface, so I either think that it should be accepted in this after-the-fact form or any rule, which

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] Resubmission with Corrections

2018-07-11 Thread Kerim Aydin
Where is it in the initial (not the first invalid one, but in the "resubmission with corrections" message)? "resubmission" is not a formal thing so independence is assumed. And if SHALLS were allowed to be fulfilled after-the-fact, many corrections could have been made once they were pointed

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] Resubmission with Corrections

2018-07-11 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
I sorted it by docket, both initially and in a subsequent message, fulfilling the requirement. There is no requirement that an argument neatly fall onto a single docket. On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 8:50 PM Alex Smith wrote: > > On Wed, 2018-07-11 at 20:45 -0400, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus > wrote

DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] Resubmission with Corrections

2018-07-11 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
I classify this as being on the first docket. On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 8:45 PM Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: > > Your Honor, My Fellow Counselor V.J. Rada seems to have made a fatal > error in the presentation of eir reasons for G.A.N. of Agora's eksallance. In > eir argument, e stated tha

DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] Resubmission with Corrections

2018-07-11 Thread Alex Smith
On Wed, 2018-07-11 at 20:45 -0400, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: > Your Honor, My Fellow Counselor V.J. Rada seems to have made a fatal > error in the presentation of eir reasons for G.A.N. of Agora's > eksallance. In > eir argument, e stated that e would present six reasons. However, he >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] Docket #2

2018-07-11 Thread Kerim Aydin
(though I encourage Counsellors to respond to invalid arguments that are interesting as this one is, as they will be part of the record even if they cannot make any limitations) Also on this one: More respect for the Most Heroic Suber as per #6. On Wed, 11 Jul 2018, Kerim Aydin wrote: > W

DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] Docket #2

2018-07-11 Thread Kerim Aydin
While this public submission to the court is greatly appreciated, entering the contest was closed 2 days ago, so the Hon. CuddleBeam can no longer become a contestant. Close reading of the tournament regulations implies this is an automatically-INVALID rule (as opposed to being "not a rule").

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] An Argument

2018-07-11 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
I intended it to be an indirect quotation, but I'm not sure that will hold up. If it doesn't I will resubmit the argument with the correction. On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 1:55 PM Corona wrote: > > Possibly INVALID: not referring to Agora properly, though this is an > indirect speech quotation, so it m

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] An Argument

2018-07-11 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
No, e should be "referred to as such", but I was addressing em. On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 1:44 PM Corona wrote: > > This isn't related to this rule in particular, but isn't addressing you > "Your Honor" illegal, given #6: "The Right Honourable > Judge G. SHALL be referred to as such"? > > ~Corona >

DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] An Argument

2018-07-11 Thread Corona
Possibly INVALID: not referring to Agora properly, though this is an indirect speech quotation, so it may not count. > error in the presentation of eir reasons for Agora's eksallance. In >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] An Argument

2018-07-11 Thread Corona
​This isn't related to this rule in particular​, but isn't addressing you "Your Honor" illegal, given #6: "The Right Honourable Judge G. SHALL be referred to as such"? ~Corona On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 5:57 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > appears VALID (again, formal response later). > > On Wed, 11

DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] An Argument

2018-07-11 Thread Kerim Aydin
appears VALID (again, formal response later). On Wed, 11 Jul 2018, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: > I present the following argument on the first docket to the court: > > Your Honor, My Fellow Counselor V.J. Rada seems to have made a fatal > error in the presentation of eir reasons for

DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] Mantaining Respect for Games and Others

2018-07-11 Thread Kerim Aydin
This is VALID but I need to further ponder it's effect. In particular, I'll have to think about whether the construction "ask the court to rule... shall" directly imposes a shall on later rules (as the court, I can't directly impose rule conditions other than by style). On Thu, 12 Jul 2018, R

DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] Mantaining Respect for Games and Others

2018-07-11 Thread Kerim Aydin
VALID afaict (sorry for brevity, better judgement when I have time later but wanted to opine before deadline) On Wed, 11 Jul 2018, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: > I present the following procedural argument to the court: > > Your Honor, My Fellow Counselors V.J. Rada and Aris seem to

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] An Argument

2018-07-11 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
It's fine. On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 11:16 AM Rebecca wrote: > > sorry > > On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 1:15 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus < > p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > "eksallance" is not a quirky spelling? > > On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 11:13 AM Rebecca wrote: > > > > > > Th

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] An Argument

2018-07-11 Thread Rebecca
sorry On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 1:15 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus < p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com> wrote: > "eksallance" is not a quirky spelling? > On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 11:13 AM Rebecca wrote: > > > > The above rule is invalid: no quirky spelling > > > > On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 1:

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] An Argument

2018-07-11 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
"eksallance" is not a quirky spelling? On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 11:13 AM Rebecca wrote: > > The above rule is invalid: no quirky spelling > > On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 1:06 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus < > p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I present the following argument on th

DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] An Argument

2018-07-11 Thread Rebecca
The above rule is invalid: no quirky spelling On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 1:06 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus < p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com> wrote: > I present the following argument on the first docket to the court: > > Your Honor, My Fellow Counselor V.J. Rada seems to have made a fata

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] Jumping in

2018-07-10 Thread Kerim Aydin
oh yah it's pretty obvious - no (0) style for invalid rules. On Tue, 10 Jul 2018, Kerim Aydin wrote: > hm can't remember what I intended I'll ponder and respond. > > On Tue, 10 Jul 2018, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: > > While not explicitly stated in the rules, I read them as sugges

DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] Jumping in

2018-07-10 Thread Kerim Aydin
VALID, and a set of intriguing arguments that would take some refuting Counsellor. Style +2.0. On Mon, 9 Jul 2018, Aris Merchant wrote: > I humbly submit the following Docket #1 argument: > > Eff-arr-quee should be considered vastly superior to all other games. > I will refute the arguments o

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] Jumping in

2018-07-10 Thread Kerim Aydin
hm can't remember what I intended I'll ponder and respond. On Tue, 10 Jul 2018, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: > While not explicitly stated in the rules, I read them as suggesting > that an INVALID rule can not have style points awarded. > On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 11:43 AM Kerim Aydin

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] Jumping in

2018-07-10 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
While not explicitly stated in the rules, I read them as suggesting that an INVALID rule can not have style points awarded. On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 11:43 AM Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > This is INVALID As per #6: "for you" doesn't address anyone with "deserved > respect" (while #6 doesn't supply ev

DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] Jumping in

2018-07-10 Thread Kerim Aydin
This is INVALID As per #6: "for you" doesn't address anyone with "deserved respect" (while #6 doesn't supply every grammatically appropriate address in the explicit list of titles, the first clause makes it clear that all forms of address need similar levels of respect - "you" needs to be "your

DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] Decorum

2018-07-05 Thread Kerim Aydin
[I'm going to send my initial judgement to Discussion each time to keep chatter in BUS down - will finalize in BUS ~once a day.] The Court finds this VALID and instructs the Clerk to number it FRC-1. Fits the style - be it hereby noted that this is granted +1 Style as a baseline for future en

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